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Dahoss 09-19-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 890945)
Dahoss, I am not sure why you are equating the unemployment rate with freeloaders. The unemployment rate only counts people who are actively looking for work. Lazy, freeloaders don't look for work.

For a supposedly smart guy, you sure are playing dumb here.

One more time, even slower. You said ALL of the lazy freeloaders are voting for Obama.

That is false. So do you want to keep talking around it, or are you just going to admit you're talking out of your ass?

geeker2 09-19-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 890976)
i have an issue with someone saying that every voter for his opponent is on the govt teat. it's completely incorrect. and it shows his lack of understanding of the country in general, and the population in particular.

a lot of people who 'depend' on the govt are actually largely republican voters. the man was kowtowing to his audience. he already said in the past he's not worried about the poor, now he's not worried about anyone who he feels would vote for obama.
that doesn't leave very many people for him to worry about, does it?
personally, i don't think many politicians really give a damn about any of us. they only care about themselves.
i'm not anti mitt because of that speech. i won't vote for him because of his stance on things, which i've already posted about.
and i have no doubt everyone has seen my take on obama...so like i said elsewhere, i will be voting for a third party candidate.

:wf:{>:

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 890987)
For a supposedly smart guy, you sure are playing dumb here.

One more time, even slower. You said ALL of the lazy freeloaders are voting for Obama.

That is false. So do you want to keep talking around it, or are you just going to admit you're talking out of your ass?

I stand by my statement, what incentive does a lazy, freeloader have to vote for Romney? Are you going to admit that you were unaware of what the unemployment number means? It only counts people actively looking for work.

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 04:51 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ack-Obama.html

Romney was only a point behind so let's see what affect his comments have. I say nothing.

Dahoss 09-19-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891041)
I stand by my statement, what incentive does a lazy, freeloader have to vote for Romney? Are you going to admit that you were unaware of what the unemployment number means? It only counts people actively looking for work.

I know what the number means. It's irrelevant to my point.

As if your whole act was embarrassing enough...now you're going to pretend that people on the right don't take advantage of the system also?

Like I said, much, much worse than Riot.

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 890926)
yeah, he just said 'it's not my job to worry about them'.


and mitt romney doesn't give a rats ass about you or anyone. he wants to be president-the only people he will worry about helping are those like him. and that doesn't include you, or me, or anyone else who isn't a rich guy like him.

Now we learn that mysteriously one to two minutes of the video are missing, coincidentally right after Romney said 47%. How pathetic is that Mother Jones has to edit a video to alter the meaning of what Romey really said? Does the liberal media have no shame?

jms62 09-19-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891043)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ack-Obama.html

Romney was only a point behind so let's see what affect his comments have. I say nothing.

And never has someone used so many words to do so.

Clip-Clop 09-19-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891047)
And never has someone used so many words to do so.

I don't care who you are or where you stand, that is funny.

jms62 09-19-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 891048)
I don't care who you are or where you stand, that is funny.

It was a hanging curve that didn't break.

Danzig 09-19-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891046)
Now we learn that mysteriously one to two minutes of the video are missing, coincidentally right after Romney said 47%. How pathetic is that Mother Jones has to edit a video to alter the meaning of what Romey really said? Does the liberal media have no shame?

Whatever may be missing doesnt mean a thing. Romney already said he stands by his comments.
Too late to jump on that nag and ride.

All i know is, i hate to think that after another 20 odd years of work (amd i entered the work force at 16, so at least 50 years of working) that when i get on ss and medicare, ill suddenly be a moocher, that i will be a victim....50 some years of paying into those programs so i can be labelled a taker.

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891045)
I know what the number means. It's irrelevant to my point.

As if your whole act was embarrassing enough...now you're going to pretend that people on the right don't take advantage of the system also?

Like I said, much, much worse than Riot.

If you knew what the number meant then why didn't you use it correctly?

Dahoss 09-19-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891064)
If you knew what the number meant then why didn't you use it correctly?

It's pretty funny to watch you unable to answer the simplest of questions, while deflecting every chance you get.

Crawl back in your hole.

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891069)
It's pretty funny to watch you unable to answer the simplest of questions, while deflecting every chance you get.

Crawl back in your hole.

I stand by my statement, the deflecting sounds like projecting on your part, please answer my simple question which is did you intentionally use the unempolyment rate incorrectly or did you not know who the unemployment rate represents?

Dahoss 09-19-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891075)
I stand by my statement, the deflecting sounds like projecting on your part, please answer my simple question which is did you intentionally use the unempolyment rate incorrectly or did you not know who the unemployment rate represents?

You stand by your statement that ZERO people who will vote for Romney are freeloaders?

And people are supposed to have intelligent discourse with (one of) you? How is that possible when you're so brainwashed?

Thepaindispenser 09-19-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891078)
You stand by your statement that ZERO people who will vote for Romney are freeloaders?

And people are supposed to have intelligent discourse with (one of) you? How is that possible when you're so brainwashed?

Ok, I will clarify, a large majority of the freeloaders will vote for Obama. Since you are such a stickler for exact words, then please answer my question. Did you intentionally misuse the unemployment rate or did you not know who is represented in the unemployment rate?

Dahoss 09-19-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891084)
Ok, I will clarify, a large majority of the freeloaders will vote for Obama. Since you are such a stickler for exact words, then please answer my question. Did you intentionally misuse the unemployment rate or did you not know who is represented in the unemployment rate?

I didn't misuse anything and I'm not going to let you squirm your way out of this. I was showing you that "red" states have some of the highest unemployment rates in the country. So, unless you're a total idiot in complete denial (possible in your case) there are A LOT of people in those states taking advantage of the system. Which negates your whole premise.

How exactly do you know a large majority of freeloaders are voting for Obama? What is the basis for your assumption?

Riot 09-19-2012 11:07 PM

Mitt Romney's Vision For Amercia


Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891089)
I didn't misuse anything and I'm not going to let you squirm your way out of this. I was showing you that "red" states have some of the highest unemployment rates in the country. So, unless you're a total idiot in complete denial (possible in your case) there are A LOT of people in those states taking advantage of the system. Which negates your whole premise.

How exactly do you know a large majority of freeloaders are voting for Obama? What is the basis for your assumption?

So you are calling people temporarily out of work but who are looking for work freeloaders??? I never called those people freeloaders, again some projecting from you. The real Dahoss is being exposed.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 891092)
Mitt Romney's Vision For Amercia


Riot you are such a racist. Just like the rest of your failed ideology you are stuck in last century. Join the 21st century.

jms62 09-20-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891111)
Riot you are such a racist. Just like the rest of your failed ideology you are stuck in last century. Join the 21st century.

Like Trickle Down Economics?

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891120)
Like Trickle Down Economics?

no, more like confiscation of wealth and having an elitist kingmaker decide who gets what.

jms62 09-20-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891123)
no, more like confiscation of wealth and having an elitist kingmaker decide who gets what.

Confistication of wealth. Plueeze. Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I0WA20120919

Dahoss 09-20-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891110)
So you are calling people temporarily out of work but who are looking for work freeloaders??? I never called those people freeloaders, again some projecting from you. The real Dahoss is being exposed.

No...I didn't say that. I said only a complete idiot in denial would think that none of the people currently on unemployment in the states I mentioned are not taking advantage of the system. Which is what you are saying.

Your opinion shows a total lack of awareness for the world outside of your (whatever character you are playing today) bubble.

Dahoss 09-20-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891126)
Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

Yes, he does.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891126)
Confistication of wealth. Plueeze. Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I0WA20120919

Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891128)
No...I didn't say that. I said only a complete idiot in denial would think that none of the people currently on unemployment in the states I mentioned are not taking advantage of the system. Which is what you are saying.

Your opinion shows a total lack of awareness for the world outside of your (whatever character you are playing today) bubble.

I am saying what?????? Please clarify.

by the what, why the name calling, can't you discuss an issue without resorting to name calling?

Address the my question, which you seem to be avoiding, did you purposely misuse the unemployment number or did you not know who it represents?

jms62 09-20-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891136)
Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.

Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891139)
Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.

Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

jms62 09-20-2012 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891143)
Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.
Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...

Rudeboyelvis 09-20-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891143)
Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.

This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.

Dahoss 09-20-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891137)
I am saying what?????? Please clarify.

by the what, why the name calling, can't you discuss an issue without resorting to name calling?

Address the my question, which you seem to be avoiding, did you purposely misuse the unemployment number or did you not know who it represents?

I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891145)
Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...

Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 891147)
This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.

You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891149)
I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

No you never answered my question, you had no idea what the unemployment rate represents.

Also, you are just making stuff up to cover your ass. I never said unemployed people were freeloaders.

jms62 09-20-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891151)
Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.

No you never insult or get personal.. LOL...

jms62 09-20-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 891152)
You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?

Thepaindispenser 09-20-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 891159)
Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?

Your joking with me right? Why doesn't GE pay taxes? Because they bribe corrupt politicians like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of your heroes. I am all for closing up tax loopholes.

By the way, who do I insult? If you don't insult me, I don't insult you, but if you come at me personally, then I will do the same.

dellinger63 09-20-2012 10:27 AM

Let's raise taxes on the wealthy, build more mosques in Egypt, and buy more solar panels from China. That will improve the economy. :wf

Let's remain with our heads in the sand and our collective a$$es in air pretending planned terror attacks are spontaneous despite occurring on 9/11.

Coach Pants 09-20-2012 10:28 AM

so now the thread is about taxes?

Pardon me while I go piss in the wind for a moment.

We were beyond taxes fixing the issue back in 2002. All of the decisions were made by then and there is not a god damn thing you or I can do about it.

So feel free to pay more taxes if you'd like. Remember to be a good slave and pay extra to the Federal Reserve.

YOU ARE BEING NAIVE, FUC.KERS. WE'RE GOING OFF THAT FISCAL CLIFF WHETHER THEY TAKE ALL YOUR GOD-DAMNED MONEY AND GIVE IT TO EVERY MEXICAN ON EARTH.

pointman 09-20-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 891149)
I already answered your question and pointed out to you why your assumptions were faulty.

You can keep deflecting all you want, but you've got no one fooled and you never have.

Seems to me that your agenda here has nothing to do with debating politics. You already know PD is not me and I find it hard to believe that you really think I could keep up the charade that you have manufactured here. It also seems to me that you are trying to bait PD on a trivial point because you don't like the views. If you don't like his views on politics, why don't you debate him instead of insulting him?


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