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geeker2 09-05-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 888755)
Speaking now: Former Bain Capital-owned company employees.

Too bad the GOP missed the opportunity of having former community organizers speak at the convention. Probably most are on unemployment and food stamps due to the poor economy.

Clip-Clop 09-06-2012 09:47 AM

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news...-speeches?lite

They have Hickenlooper on here if anyone wants to see it. Says things that aren't the platform, hence no TV.

Danzig 09-06-2012 09:56 AM

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...lan/?mobile=nc


just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.

jms62 09-06-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888798)
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...lan/?mobile=nc


just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.

Just cut taxes and everything will be taken care of. Executives at Corporations will use it to hire US citizens and not continue to stuff their already bloated wallets. Real Estate taxes will remain the same unlike when Bush cut taxes and they went up EVERY ****ING YEAR. If that doesn't work then certainly WWIII will do the trick, it worked in the 40's right?

Danzig 09-06-2012 10:46 AM

from slate, on sandra fluke's speech:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...or_obama_.html

bigrun 09-06-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888806)
from slate, on sandra fluke's speech:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...or_obama_.html

:D:D Coulter and Malkin..funny stuff..








Clip-Clop 09-06-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888806)
from slate, on sandra fluke's speech:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...or_obama_.html

http://www.therightplanet.com/2012/0...rs-role-model/

I thought this was cute.

Danzig 09-06-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 888815)

it is.
check out my health care thread, the second link is to an article about the growing number of things people want health care to cover.
personally, i'm amazed that bc isn't covered by some health plans. then again, when you read that article, it does make you go hmmmm. because if we keep adding more and more items, what does that do to the cost? we may need to reassess just what health insurance should encompass.

now, i don't care for the hysterical ravings of the roman catholic church on the issue; it shouldn't enter into it at all. especially when you get to the statistic in the article i mention that says 95% of adults use bc. that's a large number, not just a minority group of sex maniacs running around.

Danzig 09-06-2012 03:53 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/steelworker-fe...-politics.html

The Democratic National Convention on Wednesday featured three speakers billed as "former employees of companies controlled by Bain Capital."

They each told compelling stories about jobs lost, allegedly because of the actions of Bain under Romney's leadership.

But it turns out one of those employees never actually worked for a company controlled by Bain Capital.

Clip-Clop 09-06-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888851)
http://news.yahoo.com/steelworker-fe...-politics.html

The Democratic National Convention on Wednesday featured three speakers billed as "former employees of companies controlled by Bain Capital."

They each told compelling stories about jobs lost, allegedly because of the actions of Bain under Romney's leadership.

But it turns out one of those employees never actually worked for a company controlled by Bain Capital.

Hard to imagine there would be something less than true in the campaign isn't it?

Danzig 09-06-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 888853)
Hard to imagine there would be something less than true in the campaign isn't it?

yeah, registering a bit low on the veracity meter. but, can't say i'm surprised.

Riot 09-06-2012 05:15 PM

Rocking and rolling has started for the DNC final night - Mary J Blige singing now. Stadium packed, thousands outside.

Earth Wind and Fire had to be cancelled due to stage size, but other acts will go on.

It's nice to see artists participating and wanting their songs used, and not sending the DNC injunctions to immediately stop using their music, as many send to the RNC and Romney campaign :D

Democrats are definitely far cooler and more fun than Republicans. Current Republicans are angry all the time.

Riot 09-06-2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888851)
http://news.yahoo.com/steelworker-fe...-politics.html

The Democratic National Convention on Wednesday featured three speakers billed as "former employees of companies controlled by Bain Capital."

They each told compelling stories about jobs lost, allegedly because of the actions of Bain under Romney's leadership.

But it turns out one of those employees never actually worked for a company controlled by Bain Capital.

Yeah. He was only the union organizer for that workplace, working at that steel plant, with management and employees at GST Steel.

True - Bain didn't pay his salary. The union did. But he worked at GST Steel, didn't he?

Not much of a fib at all, when the point of the story is the jobs and pensions lost by those steelworkers due to Bain Capital. The guy in charge of negotiating that would know all about that. In painful detail, in the suffering of the employees that lost their pensions and jobs. And, in fact, he said he worked for the union when he told the story.

So the problem is ... ?

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He was employed by the United Steelworkers of America as their regional union director to represent GST Steel, but was not employed at our facility," according to BC Huselton, who was head of HR at GST. Instead, Foster was a union organizer, who negotiated for workers that did work for the company. Foster explained in his remarks that he was an organizer during his dealings with GST Steel.

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But it is not clear from the remarks that he never worked for a company controlled by Bain. Foster was prominently featured in an Obama campaign video, " Romney economics ," where he is identified as lead negotiator for workers at GST Steel. In the video he explains that Bain executives took bonuses even as the company flailed. Politifact rated that Obama video "mostly true."


Coach Pants 09-06-2012 08:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvyWvSmvPwE&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soh5otmq_tM&feature=plcp

Rudeboyelvis 09-06-2012 08:19 PM

:tro:

I wonder when Obama is going to deport himself indefinitely to Guantanamo for violating the NDAA?

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/...incl-al-qaeda/

Coach Pants 09-06-2012 08:26 PM

This is the moment at the family reunion where the out of touch drunk degenerate f.ucktard corporate shill that you see once a decade comes in and busts balls and pisses in the pool.

Joe.

richard 09-06-2012 10:36 PM

Pretty clear many are better off now than 4 years ago.



Coach Pants 09-07-2012 06:00 AM

Looks like a fellow Nerdy Trailer possessed this woman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKux363Dg64

jms62 09-07-2012 06:50 AM

And yet another reason we are doomed

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...ton-tlc-368469

Danzig 09-07-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 888911)
Looks like a fellow Nerdy Trailer possessed this woman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKux363Dg64

wow.

i wonder what the math will end up being on that situation. a million jobs saved-at what cost? we all know that it will be a losing proposition for the feds (i.e. we the people, since the fed runs on our dough) with stock prices continuing to be too low to get us out at anything other than a big loss.
why is it thought better to throw good money after bad, then to take the hit and then get up, dust off, and move on? same with the ppuca-they're trying to build a large home on a horrible foundation. we'll end up with a crooked house that will eventually be condemned.

Danzig 09-07-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 888912)
And yet another reason we are doomed

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...ton-tlc-368469

well, you just have to hope the honey boo boo watchers are the non-voters.
that's also the reason why they moved the cowboy-giants game to wednesday. those ratings wouldn't have tied with obama-they'd have been much higher.

Thepaindispenser 09-07-2012 06:57 AM

[quote=richard;888900]Pretty clear many are better off now than 4 years ago.

Yeah Richard you are better off if you are on Wall Street, just the people Obama claims he wants to rein in while taking boatloads of donations from them. However the persistent high unemployment numbers, high number of discouraged people leaving the workforce, poor manufacturing numbers, and soaring deficit make it clear that the rest of us are much worse off.

Danzig 09-07-2012 07:51 AM

Obama wanted points for already having embraced hard truths. "I won't pretend the path I'm offering is quick or easy. I never have. You didn't elect me to tell you what you wanted to hear. You elected me to tell you the truth."


that's from his speech last night. and many did vote for him four years ago because of his telling them what they wanted to hear. he didn't tell the truth then, and they ate it up. whether he was a flat-out liar pandering to those who wanted dreams viewed thru rose-colored glasses, or if he was just naive enough to think he could actually change things, i don't know. but either way, he bs'ed his way into that job. now the trick is to get those same voters, many of whom are now jaded and skeptical, to give him another go 'round.

geeker2 09-07-2012 08:08 AM

Just image if a jockey asked for more time to finish the job.;)

pointman 09-10-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 888923)
Obama wanted points for already having embraced hard truths. "I won't pretend the path I'm offering is quick or easy. I never have. You didn't elect me to tell you what you wanted to hear. You elected me to tell you the truth."


that's from his speech last night. and many did vote for him four years ago because of his telling them what they wanted to hear. he didn't tell the truth then, and they ate it up. whether he was a flat-out liar pandering to those who wanted dreams viewed thru rose-colored glasses, or if he was just naive enough to think he could actually change things, i don't know. but either way, he bs'ed his way into that job. now the trick is to get those same voters, many of whom are now jaded and skeptical, to give him another go 'round.

"If we can't get this done in three years, this is going to be a one-term proposition."

"We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage, whether you can put a little money away at the end of each month."

These are quotes from Obama four years ago. Like all of his lies, instead of it taking three years like he originally promised, we are now told that he never offered a path that was quick or easy. Even he told the American people that he was not deserving of a second term if he could not do it in four years. What a disgrace.

pointman 09-10-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 888900)
Pretty clear many are better off now than 4 years ago.



Why shouldn't it flourish? When the worst criminals on Wall Street have no fear of prosecution, the market should rock. "Lose" $1.6 billion of client money that is supposed to be in an escrow account not available for investing, no big deal, the Obama Justice Department won't prosecute. Regulations mean nothing when no one will enforce them.

Danzig 09-10-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 889375)
"If we can't get this done in three years, this is going to be a one-term proposition."

"We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage, whether you can put a little money away at the end of each month."

These are quotes from Obama four years ago. Like all of his lies, instead of it taking three years like he originally promised, we are now told that he never offered a path that was quick or easy. Even he told the American people that he was not deserving of a second term if he could not do it in four years. What a disgrace.

lol
thing is, the party should have told him four years ago he was making promises he couldn't keep. but by the same token, he should have known better.
i'm not in a party, and i know how it works! but he doesn't/didn't?


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