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peaceful in boston, but maybe not completely law abiding? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bIcL_blog.html they were told repeatedly to leave one portion of the area that they had encamped on, and were arrested for trespassing. there's mention of 150k in shrubs being damaged as well. |
New York confrontation avoided, at least for now, as park cleaning postponed. Somebody showed common sense, this could have been nasty.
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Yes, they were arrested for trespassing in a public park (the second park they occupied) as an act of civil disobedience. A minor offense. If you watch the multiple videos available, the demonstrators were completely peaceful, as the Boston Police aggressively attacked the Veterans for Peace with batons and beating. There will always be a few outliers of crazy trouble makers, but it is undeniable that these protests, with their thousands of protesters, have been overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent, the protesters themselves are not tolerating any violence, they are calling for peace, and always have been. The outliers are not supported by the protesters, and now the protesters are having the problem of trouble makers infiltrating them. Face it: Faux News and Hannity have been overtly lying about the "sex, drugs, lewdness" crap in New York, for example: that park has been filled with police for the month it's been occupied, there are live video feeds from it 24-7 available on the internet, there are thousands of cell phone video cameras there, and if that existed that means the police who are in the park daily, walking through it, are ignoring it. The problem with the media, who have been ignoring this, and the pundits, who have been yapping senselessly about something they are clueless about, is that social media and live cameras have taken over their job. The protesters are putting the news out there themselves, as in the middle east. That's pretty cool! It exposes the huge defects we have in our pathetic, non-journalist, lazy and even lying media. |
In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.
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Oh gawd maybe 100 million in cost for cities worldwide to handle protesters f.ucked off about arguably 50 trillion being robbed from the masses.
Priorities...we still don't have 'em. |
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If you would bother to watch some of the videos about these guys, it's clear that they know what they are talking about reference what has destroyed our economy. And you merely saying, "No, they don't!" , isn't any accurate commentary about "what they know" at all :D |
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I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with these protests.
It's a right granted by our most sacred document and it's not like the government and wall street haven't been bending over the American people the past many years. |
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"Pay for your own damn bailouts - tax all financial transactions" |
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There have been a few people in downtown Lexington - not exactly a big deal here :D |
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But saturday is 18 holes of Golf, some dressage crap, and football day for me. |
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... damn, this thing called "freedom" that our citizens have just won't go way. How inconvenient for some :rolleyes: |
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You think that's "comedy". Guess that says more about you than those veterans and the NY protesters. |
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I've got one horse call early, then I'll cruise back through Lexington to talk to the protesters & grab lunch, then back out to Keeneland for the afternoon. |
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I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention. Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage. Funny: I posted three pictures and several videos: one showing a person holding a check, protesting and marching with hundreds of others regarding the ending this year of one specific NY city tax giveaway that only benefits millionaires on up, but will cut city income by billions and put the onus on others to make up that tax amount one showing nurses (employed people) demanding specific transaction taxes on two types of financial transactions on Wall Street ("pay for your own bailouts") one showing a young person wanting repealed laws that protected us from financial malfeasance, such as Glass-Steagall, to be reinstated Multiple videos showing protesters having good grasp of the economic specifics that have destroyed our economy, and what needs to change to save it. Yet they are still being classified by some as unemployed neer-do-wells. Dirty effing hippy types. Wow. That's really sad, that some in this country are trying to ridicule the very people that are fighting for things in this country that will better their lives. |
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Dismiss the educated protestors because you see one or two youtube clips of the dumb ones the msm seeks out for interviews.
Of course it's to be expected that most Americans would be dismissive of the protestors. We've been conditioned to obey and heaven forbid we focus on real issues instead of A-Rod or Tim Tebow. Get back to the important s.hit, lemmings!! Hero worship and fast food has made you mildly retarded. |
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:zz: I guess I'm missing your point :D Unless it's that your wife is in the minority of the 23% that "don't have an opinion"? Quote:
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i completely agree that protesters have every right to be heard. i agree with much of the thinking going on that it's ridiculous that the taxpayers are bailing out companies who then pay scads of money to the brass-who were generally the cause of requiring the bailouts. if they were doing so good, and worth so much, you'd think they wouldn't have had to go begging. meanwhile, the commoners keep paying for stuff like that, while watching their jobs and standard of living go down the tubes.
that said, protests can't be allowed to spill into areas not meant for such gatherings, and certainly shouldn't cause damage-whether to shrubs or other city property. after all, taxpayers surely don't want to cost themselves money. and i have to admit, i always view organized protests a bit cynically, having grown up near d.c., where they hire protesters by the hour and provide signage and catchy slogans. i'd appreciate a 'taking back' of our govt-i think our pols have become beholden to a few groups, to corporations, to special interests, and don't pay enough attention to who pays all the bills. |
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Goldman Sachs, Citibank, and JP Morgan cannot be held accountable for the clusterf.uck of 2008. Both parties in D.C. bent over and gave them immunity. Our government took our tax money and bailed out foreign banks. I could go on and on and on. I'm trying not to bi.tch you out but quite frankly it's bush league to talk politics and not have a basic understanding of what's going on. And if you do know what's going on you're basically accepting it. Stop it. |
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Keeneland will be great, have a good time. |
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Of course a large number of the protestors are clueless. Most of America is clueless.
If the majority had any clue then this thread wouldn't exist. Jesustapdancingchrist with the semantics. I feel like I'm watching Anderson Cooper 360. |
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