Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779541)

is good old Spin Doctor Beth back at it again today?

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 779545)

Not true. This is based on an analysis by the cbpp.org of the Congressional Budget Offices. Anybody can analyze data and say what they want, but nice try.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779547)

wiphan, there is no point.

Obama is her Jesus... or should I say he's her Muhammed.

He walks on water, everything he touches turns to gold.

eventhough he's an extension of the devil himself, GW Bush :zz:


Its impossible to have a rational debate with someone who is so close minded. Soon you will be told you are a racist or bigot, if you havent been told that already.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779549)

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 779545)

Not true. This is based on an analysis by the cbpp.org of the Congressional Budget Offices. Anybody can analyze data and say what they want, but nice try.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779549)

It's very possible to have a rational argument, rather than resort to the mental midget whining and personal attacks you do. Instead of telling me to shove Obama dildoes up my ass, and the absurd yammering personal attack you prefer above, why don't you quote some budget figures?

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779552)

one of the funniest things is that she thinks her opinion actually counts towards something.

none of our opinions will have any affect on what occurs in this worlds future. our opinions have no meaning in the long run. she's as worthless as the rest of us.

In 50 years, nobody will remember the opinions of Spin Dr Beth.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779554)

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 779553)

Whoa, they really do make em.................................:eek: :zz:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779557)

i told her to sit on it, apparantly she wants it in the ass though.


its impossible to have a rational discussion with someone who is SO close minded that she refuses to even accept another persons view. that and she's more partisan than Obama was when he was a congressman (he only voted 97% partisan politics, Riot is at 100%)

its much more enjoyable to tell her to tea bag Obama.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779558)

Stay the classy Derby Trail monitor you are, Joey. You're the pride of Steve's site.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779562)

I'm confused with this Joey stuff. Is she trying to get me banned or something?

Listen, I only use this site to waste time when I'm occupied Monday through Friday.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779565)

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779566)

my occupation is none of your business.

comment away, Derby Trail is most likely the highlight of your life

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779570)

Well, you're being so friendly by repeatedly calling me Dr. Beth, so as you brought occupations up several times ....

When I get home from work I do like get away from the horses and debate politics. Love politics. Love to debate politics.




































































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You?

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779568)

would you care to explain why you've been calling me Joey?

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779570)

Well, you're being so friendly by repeatedly calling me Dr. Beth, so as you brought occupations up several times ....

When I get home from work I do like get away from the horses and debate politics. Love politics. Love to debate politics.

You?

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779573)

you always refer to me as "Lori" so why cant I call you by your name? and i know you only go by "dr. beth", because you feel that adding the Dr. in front of your name makes you important.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779572)

Sorry, Lori. My apologies to Joey.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779574)

I have no objection to you using my name, and I have never asked anyone to call me Dr., either at work or away from it. We have never met. You only call me Dr. Beth as that's what Cherie calls me, and you asked her my name. So don't lie and be a bitch about my title.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779575)

lol okaaaaaay

you can fess up that you want me to get banned. I dont care if I get "days" off from an internet website. I'm still going to troll your political Bullcrap.

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779577)

I have never asked Steve to ban anybody, and I have never complained to Steve about another poster.

People are what they choose to be on the internet. It's libertarian ;)

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779579)

yep, and I'll just believe that after 2 or 3 years on this website you all of the sudden thought I was a website administrator named Joey.

and I'll also trust you that Obama will fix everything.

Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 779542)

Amazes me how it is ok for Obama without Congressional approval to be doing what we are in Libya which originally was supposed to be an overnight air strike and take days, but we are now I believe 60+ days in with no signs of a resolution. Bush may have gotten us into a bad unfunded war, but at least he got congressional approval

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779538)

And some are so blinded to disliking Obama they dismiss the reality of our financial situation and not only what got us here, but what is costing us big in borrowed money and interest payments over now and years to come.

It sure as hell wasn't Obama.

Bush more than doubled our national debt in 6 years. Obama kept us out of a depression, using a necessary stimulus package that most say wasn't even enough as the recession is a slow recovery.

The stimulus packages cost are a tiny part of our national debt obligation - the cost of which most is already gone, and will be even more so within 2 years - while the borrowing with interest to pay for the Bush debaucle of credit card charging and giving away our revenue is more than half, and is with us for years.

Hard to spin reality. Calling Obama the big spender for domestic spending (which he has cut, including Medicare, although discretionary is only like 16% of our budget) and stimulus - both comprising only a tiny portion of our debt obligation - is ludicrous and not supported by any facts.

The below chart clearly shows how tiny the cost of the stimulus and bailouts were, and how terribly expensive and disastrous increasing spending while cutting our revenue was - because we had to borrow that money with interest, and we are paying it back to China and others forever.

It's the dark gold on this chart that is borrowed money, with interest, that is increasing over time. Thank you, George W. Bush. You didn't even give us a kiss. And yes, Obama should have allowed the tax cuts to expire, so we could already be paying this off. That is essential - that we regain that revenue stream.

That is the threat to our grandchildren. Blaming it on "Obama spending!" is simply false.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 779009)

thats right, i forgot, Republicans are evil.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 779693)

I'd reserve that for Libertarians.

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779684)

again stop with the made up chart and deal with

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779879)

It's simply amazing that you can't understand the concept of borrowing money over time and paying interest on the loan. Here, tell me what's "made up" about this:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 779932)

are you trying to say Obama's huge budget raises are a result of having to pay interest?

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 779982)

:zz: I refer you to the multiple long posts already made on the subject in this thread.