Did someone just claim that BYU isn't a mid-major? BYU, who's leaving the Mountain West for the freaking WCC next year? BYU is the definition of mid-major.

Yeah, and the one dimensional steve young was a great QB there.

Edit *BYU is the definition of mid major.

I'm not sure what your point is, but if it was somehow that BYU isn't a mid-major, you're pretty wrong. Just because Steve Young played there doesn't make BYU suddenly a power school. That's like saying USF isn't a mid-major because Bill Russell once wore the uniform.

Anywho, for anybody who's followed college basketball more than five minutes, a "mid-major" is any team not in a BCS conference. The end.

Admit it they are quite comparable. Not hard to believe Nelson averaged more assists in college considering he played with an NBA backcourt mate who was good enough for the Celtics to sign this off season. When you have to resort to that you know you are grasping at straws. The point that I have been making is that they have comparable skill sets not they are identical twins or even equal in ability. You act as though I said the guy was similar to Shaq.

You seem to have some sort of racial bias considering you keep reminding us that Fredette is white. I know in the games I saw him play (maybe 4 times admittedly not that much since I probably have watched Nelson play 30 times this year) he didn't look slow to me. He isnt Tony Parker fast or Ramon Sessions fast but he isn't Bill Cartwright like you are making him out to be. Honestly how many times have you ever seen him play?

I would love to know how you know a guy doesn't have passing skills or floor reading ability since he obviously has been playing a different role in college and wasn't asked to do much traditional PG work. Of course you said Derrick Rose couldn't shoot and had no three point shooting ability which he obviously has shown he has this year. Did you think Russell Westbrook who averaged 12 and 4 the year prior to coming to the NBA would be averaging 22 and 8 three years later? He shot 68% FT's in college and 82% in the NBA. Did you see that coming as well?

Oh yeah Jameer Nelson is Nash-like on defense. He is just fortunate to play with Dwight Howard behind him.

Derek Rose and Russell Westbrook are so incredibly athletic that defenders have to give them five feet or risk being blown by. Shooting ability isn't speed or athleticism. You can become a better shooter but at 22, you aren't going to get any quicker. Rose's improvement in shooting ability has surprised me...no doubt. I didn't expect him to get this good and certainly not this fast. But he is a completely different realm of athlete.

I have watch fredette play since he was a freshman coming off the bench when Ainge's son was at BYU. It was one of the seasons that Bzdelik was coaching at Air Force and that program was actually relevant...to the MWC at least. Fredette was the spark off the bench. Now how many of those games did you watch Chuck?

As far as the Delonte thing, I totally forgot that him and Nelson were backcourt mates at St Joes! Now, was that a concidence or a freudian slip when you compared Fredette to Jameer Nelson? There are much better comparisons than Jameer Nelson. Wouldn't Alford be a much better comparison? Or even Fred Hoiberg? Or Chris Jackson? Chris Jackson could be a great comparison although not nearly as athletic (and no tourrette's).

The margin for success in the NBA is slim and it gets slimmer the smaller the player is. Fredette doesn't look slow because as you and slowdirt pointed out, he plays against mid majors. He looked pretty slow against Florida. He even looked pretty slow against Wofford. Can you imagine how slow he would have looked against Uconn or Duke????

If he's not going to have a career that spans over 5 seasons avg of say 2000 minutes a season, and he won't, then what's the point of being right?

Mother is Catholic and his father is Mormon. NO SHOT.

So did you win the UNC bet or is it a push with Kansas?

You're talking to yourself, he doesn't live here anymore............again.

You stay classy (and wrong, but I digress...)!

A column by Rick Reilly bolstering dumb-akhani's (HA! Get it, I took the "dal" out of dalakhani and spliced in another word to make it an insult! Turns out a personal attack takes very little brain power after all!) Jimmer argument:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6257636

This probably puts Jimmer on the all-rookie team.

Somehow I am guessing he wont be drawing double teams or face zones entirely designed to counter him at the next level like FL threw at him.

And I am supposed to believe you have been monitoring the BYU program for years?

Mahmoud Abdul Rauf had a decent enough NBA career (nine seasons in the league), though I don't think touretts had anything to do with it. Hey, let's insult dt.com posters and people with disabilities all in one swoop!

P.S. - Chris Jackson was 1,893 times the college player Jimmer was. Just saying.

How did I insult anyone with Tourette's? I merely stated a fact. Chris Jackson has tourette's and Jimmer Fredette doesn't.

Lighten up. Jeez. I was just messin with you.

All rookie? He is first team all nba next year based on Reilly's opinion. Now all i need is a certain someone to come on here and extoll his virtues and that will level things out.

Wait...didn't someone pick BYU to win it all?

How was Chris Jackson's tourette's relevant to the conversation? It was in poor taste at best.

Well I don't see you saying anything about the comments on him being mormon or white. Do you simply feign outrage when it comes to Tourette's syndrome?

Chris Jackson is memorable to me for a few things:

1. Tourette's syndrome
2. Turning his back on the national anthem
3. Having a sensational few years at LSU

I have never been aware of another prominent athlete having tourette's just like i have never seen a 6' 2" white shooting guard after 1980.

I didn't know that there were taste police in Detroit of all places. I will make sure I am extra sensitive to people with Tourette's slowdirt.

Jim Eisenreich had tourette's, dumb-akhani. As someone who pretends to know everything there ever has been to know about the city of Philadelphia (not to mention the world in general), I'd have figured you of all people would know that.

No, slodouche, Antitrust is the one from philadelphia. I just enjoy watching the one dimensional michael vick.

Note, dolt-akhani, that I mentioned the "world in general," you know, just to cover all bases.

Noticed I mentioned "slodouche" although I doubt that covers all the bases.

Another piece of brilliance.

Sometimes when one actually has an opinion before an event occurs, one is wrong. Better than just being a regular old jackass.

So...you want to be the ultimate jackass by ripping someone else's opinion and then being wrong?

You really went out on a limb there. That was a really bold opinion and the fact that you were attempting to rip on someone else while providing it makes you look even more douchey.

Do you recognize the quote on my sig line?

Here's a winner from last year:

04-05-2010, 09:09 PM
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Im going to go out on a limb here. I say they make the playoffs. They have a defense that could be dominant if they don't have to be on the field too long. They have a coach that is one of the best offensive minds in the sport. They are in a division where two of the teams are rebuilding.

Why can't they get a wildcard? I bet Vegas will put them out at 6 wins max and I would take the over on that.

If 6-10 made the playoffs, the Skins would be a perpetual entry in the postseason! Two can obviously play at the "your opinion stinks" game.

Lol. That's going out on a limb you moron. That's the point. It takes a degree of courage to bet the skins will make the playoffs.

How much courage does it take to contradict rockhardten1985? How much of a douche are you if he ends up being right? How much courage does it take to say the eagles won't make the playoffs at the beginning of 2010? How much of a douche are you when they make it? Slotbilas?

Another spot-on set of predictions from the great dalakhani, this of more recent vintage. What's the old cliche about glass houses and throwing stones?

10-07-2010, 01:24 AM
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Okay, baseball calls:

NY over Minnesota
TB over Texas

Atl over Sf
Cin over Philly

Cin over Atl

TB over NY

TB over Cin

I bet Fox is drooling over the prospect of those ratings.

Those Cincy-Braves and TB-Yankees 2010 championship series must have been scintillating!

Where are your calls slodouche? Any tourney selections against the line? Give out any horses?

Those playoff picks were pretty bad. My pre season baseball selections were a little better. Why don't you post those? :). Or better yet post yours...

Do you have anything where you are actually right?

slodouche, slowdirt, really, they're all very original. You are to be commended on taking my screen name and turning it into a supposed insult. Really though, why not slowdouche? Why the "slo" without the "w?" Is it just a stylistic thing?

Anyway, I'm not sure of the point here. Yours is apparently to try to embarrass me in some form or fashion whilst unnecessarily insulting people with disabilities. Mine is to show you that even the greatest among us - and I'm clearly not accusing you of being a member of that class - are wrong on occasion.

But since you asked, here are a couple of things from this very thread that I've posted that were absolutely, 100 percent correct (note that there are just as many things I've said that are absolutely, 100 percent wrong, and I don't particularly care.):

Duke may be the best team, but only if they have Irving. They're perfectly ordinary otherwise.

Did someone just claim that BYU isn't a mid-major? BYU, who's leaving the Mountain West for the freaking WCC next year? BYU is the definition of mid-major.

Another gem. Lol. Arizona stinks! Man, slodouche, rockhardten owned you on this thread.

Okay, Rockhardten owes you a debt of gratitude. How are you right about the underlined statement? Irving was Duke's leading scorer when that ordinary Duke team got their tails whipped by a team that you said "stinks".

You hit the idiot exacta in one thread. The team claimed was "the best with Kyrie Irving" got whipped by a team that you said "stinks" in Zona.

Just shut up already. LOL

Kyrie Irving was injured and had played two games in four months at that point. Obviously even the thickest skulled among us understood that was my point.

Moreover, Arizona didn't prove a thing during the regular season. Obviously, people can be wrong, but did you have a team that lost twice to Washington State going to the Elite Eight? Let's see your brackets, killer.

So easy to point out the flaws of others when one can't see their own. And with that, I'm going to use the ignore button for the first time in my five years at dt.com.

Ignore away slowdirt. I would probably be ignoring the whole thread if I got owned by Rockhardtenfan.

By the way, Irving scored 28 in that game. Him being in the game kept them from losing by 30. Duke was dominated in the middle. In no way were they the best team with or without Irving you fool.

WSU is 22-12 and in the semi's of the NIT. They did beat Gonzaga by 22, Miss st by 26 and Washington twice. They however didn't beat AZ in either game they played.

Personally I would have taken most offense at being called slotbilas

Arizona had a very good regular season and has the best player in College basketball (in my opinion). stars can take teams far in the tourney.

Sorry, had the wrong Pac-10 fodder. Meant to say Oregon STate, and it was only one loss, not two.

Still, Arizona's best non-con win was what, NC State? Oklahoma? It's pretty slim pickins'. I take issue with someone saying they had a "very good" regular season when they basically beat up on the worst major conference in America and didn't beat a soul worth mentioning in their non-conference schedule.

any time you win 25 games in a regular season you had a very good regular season.

and the pac 10 didnt suck as much as the east coast bias made it out to be.

Washington was a tough team with some real good players. UCLA could play and had some NBA talent. USC was decent. Washington State, as Chuck pointed out,was a good team.

the Pac 10 proved its worthy by showing up to play ball in the tourney.

Arizona's run was no fluke. They were one of the country's top teams and they only got better as the year went on (except for two losses late in the season). They were an entirely different team at the end of the season then when they played Kansas in the beginning of the season. They only had one senior on the whole team.

Its okay if you didnt watch them or follow them all season, but they certainly did not suck at any point.

This year's tourney has proven one point...good teams can come from anywhere!