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Alan07 10-22-2010 12:10 PM

A Little Warm injured, likely to be retired
 
A Little Warm, winner of the Grade 2 Jim Dandy at Saratoga in July, suffered condylar fractures to both front forelegs on Thursday and will most likely be retired from racing, his connections said Friday. A Little Warm was being pointed to the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile on Nov. 6 at Churchill Downs.

During a routine gallop Thursday morning at Delaware Park, A Little Warm suffered a non-displaced fracture of his left foreleg and a mildly displaced fracture of his right foreleg, according to Chris Baker.

http://drf.com/news/little-warm-inju...t-indefinitely

Indian Charlie 10-22-2010 12:38 PM

I dont remember that ever happening, breaks in 2 legs, in a workout.

hockey2315 10-22-2010 12:40 PM

Silverton Hill has purchased Murjan --http://www.pedigreequery.com/murjan4 -- and is pointing him to the Juvenile turf.

randallscott35 10-22-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 709903)
I dont remember that ever happening, breaks in 2 legs, in a workout.

Actually think Eight Belles may have done it after her initial injury...sad, I'm a big A Little Warm fan.

Alan07 10-22-2010 12:44 PM

As per the FB page of Michelle Nihei Racing Stable: Prince Will I Am (Marathon) and Silent Joy (Filly Juv Turf) will be pre-entered for the BC.

Alan07 10-22-2010 01:16 PM

Reade pair will stay out of Breeders’ Cup
 
Fatal Bullet and Rockin Heat, who had been under consideration for appearances at the Breeders’ Cup, will not be heading to Churchill Downs.

“Danny has decided not to go,” said Reade Baker, who trains both Fatal Bullet and Rockin Heat for the Bear Stable of Danny Dion.

The six-furlong Kennedy Road, a Grade 3, $150,000 race for 3-year-olds and upward on the main track Nov. 20, now becomes Fatal Bullet’s next stakes target.

Baker had been interested in running Rockin Heat in the one-mile Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf, but his next stakes appearance instead could come in the $150,000 Display, a 1 1/16 mile Polytrack race Nov. 28.

http://drf.com/news/stormy-lord-looks-safe-home-mobil

Alan07 10-22-2010 02:35 PM

Schedule of Events
 
http://members.breederscup.com/champ...duleEvents.pdf

tjfla 10-22-2010 03:46 PM

[Bloodhorse]

Calvin Borel BC mounts

Atta Boy Roy is one of five confirmed mounts for Borel in the Breeders’ Cup. Other mounts for Borel, whose lone Breeders’ Cup victory came in 2006 in the Juvenile on Street Sense, are A.U. Miner (Marathon), Tell a Kelly (Juvenile Fillies), Hurricane Ike (Dirt Mile), and Seeking the Title (Ladies’ Classic).

Alan07 10-22-2010 04:25 PM

BC Notes
 
*No BC Sprint title defense for Dancing in Silks
*Indian Gracey may get shot in Juvenile Fillies
*No Marathon for Romp, Where's The Remote
*Bejarano booked on six for BC

http://drf.com/news/no-bc-sprint-tit...-dancing-silks

tjfla 10-22-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 709985)
*No BC Sprint title defense for Dancing in Silks
*Indian Gracey may get shot in Juvenile Fillies
*No Marathon for Romp, Where's The Remote
*Bejarano booked on six for BC

http://drf.com/news/no-bc-sprint-tit...-dancing-silks

Bejarano has six mounts for the Breeders’ Cup, according to his agent, Joe Ferrer. Aside from Indian Gracey, Bejarano is scheduled to ride Crown of Thorns (Dirt Mile), Unzip Me (Turf Sprint), Wise Dan (Sprint), Wyomia (Juvenile Fillies Turf) and perhaps Rinterval (Filly and Mare Sprint).

tjfla 10-22-2010 05:20 PM

[DRF]

Etched, winner of the Grade 2 Monmouth Cup on Oct. 9, remains possible for the Breeders’ Cup Classic, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said Friday.

“There are five or six horses that are really tough, but the interesting thing that I look at is it would be his third race off a layoff and it might be his best,” McLaughlin said. “It’s been two and out a couple of times with him.”

If the decision is made by Darley Stable to pre-enter on Monday then “we’re probably running,’’ McLaughlin said, refuting the idea of pre-entering just to take a look at the race.

McLaughlin said that one alternative spot for Etched could be the Grade 1 Cigar Mile at Aqueduct on Nov. 27.

tjfla 10-22-2010 05:26 PM

[Downey Profile]

Arriving at Churchill Downs from California this afternoon was Breeders’ Cup Sprint hopeful Smiling Tiger and owner-trainer Myung Kwon Cho’s Riveting Reason for the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile.

RockHardTen1985 10-22-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 709996)
[DRF]

Etched, winner of the Grade 2 Monmouth Cup on Oct. 9, remains possible for the Breeders’ Cup Classic, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin said Friday.

“There are five or six horses that are really tough, but the interesting thing that I look at is it would be his third race off a layoff and it might be his best,” McLaughlin said. “It’s been two and out a couple of times with him.”

If the decision is made by Darley Stable to pre-enter on Monday then “we’re probably running,’’ McLaughlin said, refuting the idea of pre-entering just to take a look at the race.

McLaughlin said that one alternative spot for Etched could be the Grade 1 Cigar Mile at Aqueduct on Nov. 27.

Etched is OK and I made a large bet on him last time, mostly because I think Musket Man is ****. With that said, he is soooo 3 years ago.

Kasept 10-24-2010 08:35 AM

If he can get into the field, Pat Kelly will enter Yield Bogey, who has points for the selection ranking system, in the Turf Sprint.

MisterB 10-24-2010 09:16 AM

The Troy is not a race to build off. You could have landed a 747 on the turf without making a dent that day. What horse has gone forward off that winning effort? The turf will be fair in Kentucky, and you won't see any pace setters winning this one.

tjfla 10-24-2010 01:01 PM

DRF


Bribon will likely be supplemented to the Breeders’ Cup Sprint, a decision expected to be finalized Monday morning by owner Derrick Smith.

"I think the horse is training as well as he ever has, consistent with the way he has when he’s coming up to a big race," Pletcher said. "Ultimately, yes, I’m happy. The horse is in good order and I’ll talk to Mr. Smith in the morning and see if he wants to put up the supplement."

If not, Bribon would run in next Saturday’s Bold Ruler at Belmont as a prep for the Cigar Mile at Aqueduct on Nov. 27.

hockey2315 10-24-2010 01:36 PM

What are the chances Admiral Alex goes in the Classic now?

tjfla 10-24-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710527)
What are the chances Admiral Alex goes in the Classic now?

Did Blu proclaim him yet?:p If IEAH or Ramsey owned him they would already would have him shipped down to CD.

hockey2315 10-24-2010 03:26 PM

Looks like he's going to the Discovery w/ eyes on the Met Mile for next year. . . Blu said he should be undefeated, and it was the trips that got him in the Travers and Jamaica.

Dahoss 10-24-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710567)
Looks like he's going to the Discovery w/ eyes on the Met Mile for next year. . . Blu said he should be undefeated, and it was the trips that got him in the Travers and Jamaica.

No Japan Cup?

tjfla 10-24-2010 03:34 PM

[Downey Profile]

Trainer Al Stall, Jr. said today that the Breeders' Cup post position draw could determine the short-term fate of J. B.'s Thunder.

If he gets a good PP then he is a go,if not he is gonna pass. Either way he will be entered for now

dalakhani 10-24-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 708726)
I just find them sort of redundant. . . even if they're all different terms. If I were those guys, I'm not sure I'd want to make it known that I'm in the business of managing money, considering how they manage their stable.

That's funny.

Klarman's hedge fund is private so public opinion is meaningless. And if his stable could have half the sucess as his business, he would have multiple contenders in the BC.

Kasept 10-25-2010 05:42 AM

Churchill weekend works/splits/notes from CD Director of Communications Darren Rogers' "Derby Media" twitter (which I completely forgot about until he reminded me).

Darren provides timely updates from there: https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia



Espoir City-JPN (Classic) breezed 6F in 1:18 1/5. Splits: 14 1/5, 28 2/5, 41 3/5, 54 1/5, 1:06 2/5. Out 7F in 1:33 3/5. about 21 hours ago via web

Haynesfield (Classic) 6F in 1:13 3/5 w/ Kinsei. Outside. Started, finished even. 12 3/5, 25, 37 1/5, 49 1/5. Kicked clear after in 1:27 2/5. about 21 hours ago via web

Switch (F&M Sprint) 5F in 1:00 1/5. Splits: 12 1/5, 23 4/5, 35 2/5, 47 2/5. Out 6F in 1:13 4/5. about 21 hours ago via web

At Keeneland: Blame (Classic) breezed 5F in :58 4/5 in company w/ Apart (Ack Ack). Splits: 12 1/5, 23 4/5, 35 4/5, 46 4/5. Out 6F 1:11 3/5. about 21 hours ago via web

Pluck (Juvenile Turf) 5F in 1:01 1/5 w/ Garrett Gomez up. Inside w/ Hammock Beach. Splits: 12 3/5, 36 2/5, 48 3/5. Pluck out 6F in 1:14 4/5. about 22 hours ago via web

Acoma (Ladies' Classic) breezed 5F in 1:01 3/5. Splits: 12 3/5, 24 4/5, 37 1/5. Out 6F in 1:15 2/5. about 23 hours ago via web

Arc winner Workforce-GB given green light for Breeders' Cup Turf: http://bit.ly/a2M5Rm 12:37 PM Oct 23rd via web

Cincy Dollase reports that her son trainer Craig plans to ship Awesome Gem (Dirt Mile) & Tropic Storm (Turf Sprint) to CD on Oct. 31. 11:22 AM Oct 23rd via web

First Dude (Classic) 6F in 1:15 w/ Tammy Fox up. Splits: 12 3/5, 24 3/5, 36 3/5, 49 1/5, 1:01 4/5. Out 7F in 1:29 3/5. 9:20 AM Oct 23rd via web

Paddy O'Prado (Classic) 5F in 1:01 with Tammy Fox up. Splits: 12 2/5, 24 2/5, 36 1/5. Out 6F in 1:15 2/5. 9:01 AM Oct 23rd via web

Hurricane Ike (Dirt Mile) & Third Dawn 6F together. Ike: 1:12 2/5. Dawn: 1:14. 12 1/5, 24, 35 4/5, 47 4/5, 59 4/5. Ike out 7F in 1:27 4/5. 9:00 AM Oct 23rd via web

Champagne d'Oro (F&M Sprint) 5F in :59 3/5 w/ Miguel Mena up. Splits: 11 2/5, 22 4/5, 34 3/5, 46 4/5. Out 6F in 1:14 1/5. 8:52 AM Oct 23rd via web

More Than Real (Juvenile Turf) 4F in :49 4/5 w/ Garrett Gomez up. Splits: 12 4/5, :25. Out 5F in 1:03. 8:51 AM Oct 23rd via web

Tell a Kelly (Juv Fillies) 5F in 1:00 4/5. Splits: 12 3/5, 24 2/5, 36, 48. Out 6F in 1:15 2/5. 8:48 AM Oct 23rd via web

Kasept 10-25-2010 10:49 AM

Astrology will bypass Juvenile in favor of the Iroquois..

Kasept 10-25-2010 12:10 PM

For those that missed ATR, Delightful Mary had the day's most impressive work to send the Limehouse chestnut into the Juvenile Fillies in good stead. The Mark Casse trainee, the $500k OBS April sales-topping purchase by John Oxley, was second to Juvenile Fillies Turf candidate Wyomia in the Mazarine and will be making her first dirt start after three polytrack turns at Woodbine. While Calvin Borel was scrubbing on her colt workmate Blue Laser to keep up, Delightful Mary was gliding effortlessly under Shawn Bridgmohan through sharp fractions. Minutes after the work, Casse gave the green light for the filly to run November 5, and Bridgmo will get to ride the half sister of Delightful Kiss at what figures to be a bonus mutuel. Blue Laser looks like he will bypass the Juvenile in favor of a Delta Jackpot start.

tjfla 10-25-2010 02:29 PM

Has there ever been a 5 horse Breeders Cup Field? They do realize that this is a Grade 1,2 million dollar race?

I know Uncle Mo and others are alot better but come on,this is getting ridiculous I understand about Blue Laser as he got a whooping put on him today but these excuses are getting stupid.

I have heard everything from my horse isn't ready to run against the big names to my horse needs the money to get into the Kentucky Derby. Are u joking? How many horses get injured,worse,or shipped to Dubai between now and April.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 710916)
Has there ever been a 5 horse Breeders Cup Field? They do realize that this is a Grade 1,2 million dollar race?

I know Uncle Mo and others are alot better but come on,this is getting ridiculous I understand about Blue Laser as he got a whooping put on him today but these excuses are getting stupid.

I have heard everything from my horse isn't ready to run against the big names to my horse needs the money to get into the Kentucky Derby. Are u joking? How many horses get injured,worse,or shipped to Dubai between now and April.

Im really excited about the matchup in this race. Also excited to see if Stay Thirsty is any good, and if my opinion on B@T is accurate.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710920)
Im really excited about the matchup in this race. Also excited to see if Stay Thirsty is any good, and if my opinion on B@T is accurate.

It ain't. . . although I don't agree with the way they've handled him.

NTamm1215 10-25-2010 02:46 PM

There's not going to be 5 horses in the Juvenile. There might not be 12 but I guarantee you there won't be 5.

tjfla 10-25-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 710928)
There's not going to be 5 horses in the Juvenile. There might not be 12 but I guarantee you there won't be 5.

BaT
Jaycito
JP's Gusto
Uncle Mo
Stay Thirsty

Looks like 5 to me

JB's Thunder-Possible (Depending on PP)
Rogue Romance-Possible (Also entered in Turf)
Riveting Reason-Possible (Shipped there but who knows)

I agree its a nice 5 horses but come on its a Grade 1.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710927)
It ain't. . . although I don't agree with the way they've handled him.


Well maybe Im over the top with it, but I dont see him beating Uncle Moe, and I think Stay Thirsty is going to run huge.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 710937)
BaT
Jaycito
JP's Gusto
Uncle Mo
Stay Thirsty

Looks like 5 to me

JB's Thunder-Possible (Depending on PP)
Rogue Romance-Possible (Also entered in Turf)
Riveting Reason-Possible (Shipped there but who knows)

I agree its a nice 5 horses but come on its a Grade 1.


I think its very likely to be 7.

hockey2315 10-25-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710941)
Well maybe Im over the top with it, but I dont see him beating Uncle Moe, and I think Stay Thirsty is going to run huge.

Stay Thirsty won't be competitive.

Uncle Moe and BT seem about equally talented, but I think BT will prefer the distance a bit.

Jaycito will probably be the value, though.

tjfla 10-25-2010 03:04 PM

[DRF]

Zito said his horses – including Cool Coal Man, who will run in the Dirt Mile

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710944)
Stay Thirsty won't be competitive.

Uncle Moe and BT seem about equally talented, but I think BT will prefer the distance a bit.

Jaycito will probably be the value, though.


I disagree with 1.

Disagree with 2.

Agree with 3, but still dont think he is good enough.

lemoncrush 10-25-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 710946)
I disagree with 1.

Disagree with 2.

Agree with 3, but still dont think he is good enough.

Please just tell me one valid reason why you think Stay Thirsty will run huge in this race. Not "just a hunch" or "Todd will have him ready".

Alan07 10-25-2010 03:56 PM

Bribon not supplemented to Breeders' Cup Sprint
 
Trainer Todd Pletcher said he pre-entered 11 horses on Monday for the Breeders’ Cup World Championships, to be held Nov. 5-6 at Churchill Downs. However, Bribon was not among them.

Pletcher said that several factors came into play in the decision not to run Bribon in the Breeders’ Cup, including the fact that he is a 7-year-old gelding and a come-from-behind sprinter in what will likely be a large field. “And,” Pletcher said, “$180,000 is a lot of money to put up.”

http://drf.com/news/bribon-not-suppl...ers-cup-sprint

hockey2315 10-25-2010 03:58 PM

:rolleyes:

Not a lot of money to put up for those dudes. I liked him a lot in that spot, but I guess he wasn't doing well.

RockHardTen1985 10-25-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710974)
:rolleyes:

Not a lot of money to put up for those dudes. I liked him a lot in that spot, but I guess he wasn't doing well.

Is there a place to get nom pp's right now?

hockey2315 10-25-2010 04:43 PM

Not that I know of. Try not to go postal in the day and a half you'll have to wait.


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