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Indian Charlie 10-29-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 712955)
I do not think she is one of the best mares in the past 10 years. If by that you mean top 5.

Huh?

Cannon Shell 10-29-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 712969)
Yes all fair points. Not saying anyone making them is by definition a hater. But I also think the zenyettiacs are a logical reaction to those who have constantly criticized her. Both slides are blind.

I believe that the supposed haters are far more a reaction to the Zidiots than vice versa.

Cannon Shell 10-29-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by monipenny (Post 712970)
Well what's really funny is that Zenyatta herself can't ask why more boys won't come out and play. Maybe simply put they just took there ball and went home. It's not the fault of the Moss's or the Sheriffs who decides to run or not run. The BC Cup is a joke nowadays with punchdrunk journalists who try to shove the breeders cup down out throat. It's they decide who wins year end honors and the Zenyatta camp should be commended for coming back another year when so many choose to retire early. I say bravo to the Zenyatta faithful and good luck to this wonderful racemare. I hope she comes back well and enjoys her retirement.:D

Please tell me there is some kind of tongue-in-cheek meaning that I am missing?

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-29-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 713075)
Please tell me there is some kind of tongue-in-cheek meaning that I am missing?

save your breath..it will all come crashing down next sat..

blackthroatedwind 10-29-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 713075)
Please tell me there is some kind of tongue-in-cheek meaning that I am missing?


I'm afraid there is some secret code in there having nothing to do with horse racing.

Slewbopper 10-29-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 711116)
It's the strongest BC Classic field
since 2008.

Yeah, it is powerhouse field. Has one G1 winner at the distance on dirt. And he is a NYB

Danzig 10-29-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 712979)
Please spare the drama. No one is being shouted down. What are you Jimmy Stewart now in Mr Smith Goes to Washington.

I am saying the points on the surface are fair ones. It doesnt mean the person making them is necessarily being fair.

Whats the old saw about stats being used for support not illumination?

People with an entrenched opinion will usually reach out for something that supports their point of view. Not challenges it.

And if she wins the Classic again and people still wont accept her then they are blind. And silly. Again both fringes of the discussion, and not even sure its a fringe anymore seems like everyone has a strong opinion one way or the other- keep upping the ante. Letting emotion get the best of them

um, i said this:

if it were any horse other than zenyatta with the racing done this year being mentioned that way, the person doing the mentioning would be shouted down.


how that means i said someone IS being shouted down, i don't know....

my point is, people are saying zenyatta's career makes her deserving of HOY. that is incorrect. just looking at what she's done this year in no way, shape or form qualifies her for even being mentioned....blind luck hasn't got a shot in hell at the same award, to this point i'd say she's had a tougher year than zenyatta. but, it's the 'queen'. if her owner was so intent on winning the award, he should have raced her accordingly. not ducked and dodged the same as last year, and expect a different outcome. one big race does not hoy make. rachel won last year because she had an extraordinary season, while zenyatta had one extraordinary race-which is exactly what she might end up with again this year. her races this year have been anything but extraordinary. only her compilation of wins over four years time is extraordinary. for that, she'll one day be in the hall of fame.

Danzig 10-29-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pucknut (Post 712982)
have none of her wins come on dirt?

yep, but not at 10f.

Princess Doreen 10-30-2010 07:21 AM

Good read -

http://www.anddownthestretchtheycome...lassic-preview

chucklestheclown 10-30-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 713399)

Thanks Princess! Where's that excel file he referred to?

Princess Doreen 10-30-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 713575)
Thanks Princess! Where's that excel file he referred to?

It's in his message - a small version of it; just double click on it.

chucklestheclown 10-30-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 712991)
Huh?

If best is top 5 I would not put her there.

chucklestheclown 10-30-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 713590)
It's in his message - a small version of it; just double click on it.

Thanks, but that's just the Classic...He said he has all BC races somewhere. Guess it's in another post?

Princess Doreen 10-30-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 713592)
Thanks, but that's just the Classic...He said he has all BC races somewhere. Guess it's in another post?

I took his comment to mean all the BCC races?!~

chucklestheclown 10-30-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 713594)
I took his comment to mean all the BCC races?!~

When I click on the box I just get the Classic. Am I doing something wrong? Because I am VERY interested in seeing all of them.:D

Princess Doreen 10-30-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 713601)
When I click on the box I just get the Classic. Am I doing something wrong? Because I am VERY interested in seeing all of them.:D

OKAY! Let me rephrase. I took his comment to mean just the BC Classic races - not ALL the BC races.

His e-mail is adtstc@hotmail.com if you want to ask him if he has like info on the other BC races.

chucklestheclown 10-30-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 713603)
OKAY! Let me rephrase. I took his comment to mean just the BC Classic races - not ALL the BC races.

His e-mail is adtstc@hotmail.com if you want to ask him if he has like info on the other BC races.

Thanks. I took it differently and JUST SAW YOUR EDIT. I will e-mail him tomorrow. GRL.


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