We can use common sense, again I am not in disagreement that it was part of their rationale, rather I disagreed that it was the only reason why they came back.

Ok, well you just said that we're not to believe quotes from Team Zenyatta that are written in various publications out there, like DRF and Ray Paulick are just fabricating a bunch of quotes when they can't get Jerry Moss to call them back before deadline.

No, I never said this, what I said was just because one can take one quote and turn it into the Rosetti stone, does not make it the only reasons why a horse may or may not have come back. Who said anything about fabricating? What you are doing is basing your whole argument on one selected quote.

When the "one" quote pretty much refutes everything you're arguing, then I suppose I'd understand not taking a particular quote at face value. And do you have any idea what the Rosetta stone is, because that is the worst analogy I've ever seen, Rosetti or not.

Notice to everyone, Zenyatta's sole reason for coming back to race in 2010 was to win HOY. :rolleyes:

I only wish I was fortunate enough to meet people this gullable in my day to day interactions at work.

Remember when a horse's greatness was defined by winning great races instead of trying to inflate and protect won/loss records? Its even made worse in today's age because you only have so many chances to race. If you use those opportunities on bad races, you end up trying to define a career with a handful of races.

Comedy is not your forte, cowgirl ...

It won't be as light as the Lady's Secret--the Helium Handicap ..

Carry on ..

Which personality is it today, Mikki or Nikki?

I have lots of personality, but only one ---Trikki.

Mikki mikki fo mikki, banana fana fo Nikki, fee fi fo Nikki, Mikki--what are you talking about ???

Comedy is not your forte.

Carry on ..

How flattering to be quoted--originality is not you .

Yeah, you've been very original in this thread. Recycling the same arguements and points that have been hammered home for months now. Impressive stuff.

Apparently the points haven't been pounded on enough to sink in where they belong .

That is quite a toolbox you have yourself, Josephine .

Like I said, comedy clearly isn't your forte. Stick to not betting and being pretentious. That's always a solid combo.

[quote=Dahoss;672636]Like I said, comedy clearly isn't your forte. Stick to not betting and being pretentious. That's always a solid combo.[/QUOTE }

You already said that ... But the joke's on you .

You have no idea whether I bet or not--as if betting is a virtue and not betting excludes me from some club ......

Pretention and betting are NOT mutually exclusive--there are numerous examples right here .

True, but it probably beats MY combination of betting poorly and being pretentious.

I'd settle for half of that.

Surprised a thread was even started for a garbage race like this...

My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but it's still pretty good. Now, of course that doesn't matter. But, save the pretentious crap for someone else. If you are going to be hammering points home to people back it up a little at the window, k?

Another non betting Zenyattatard. How surprising....

Lol ... they take down my post about Z's work today but leave this clown's drivel up.

Too funny

How did she work today? Repost it.

And only one person has talked about the race. I'd like to know if anyone thinks there is a good play underneath. I think it looks chalky with the 1 and 2 filling out the tri only because they have the best recent form. Races with overwhelming favorites can produce longshots underneath but this race is loaded with front end types. It's difficult to project which horses will attempt to come from off of the pace and which ones are capable of doing so.

When it comes to Rachel v. Zenyatta v. whatever straw man people wanna put together, I'm slowly going bonkers. I imagine this guy muttering to himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8CrvGndKzE



One horse had a 5 month layoff hanging around in a stall without a stitch of training, one did not. One had a winning formula that came apart when they tried to change her running style, her bit, and her training methods. One did not. One has an owner a la Jerry Jones who enjoys the micromanaging experience. One does not. We could do this all day. And bringing up number of G1s is kinda silly when it's more like "G1"s that she's won 2-3 times apiece. It's more significant that she won them with her running style--that's where Zenyatta gets more points from me. Not that she won so many G1s or maybe even the Classic. It's that she gives everybody a bloody head start each time, 17 straight. Tout that. To me, it's more impressive than beating Anabaa's Creation could ever be. She should've lost regardless of talent just from getting into trouble. What's painfully obvious to me is neither one is in a position to win HOY as they stand right now--we gotta see more in the next few months or both connections will remain seated at the Eclipse Awards when they get to that category.

Monmouth is giving away Rachel Alexandra T-Shirts with paid admission.

Great research--and no I do not bet anymore on horses--not in the last five years. There is no mandate that one can not have an opinion on a horse without backing it up at the windows, even though you suppose it is true .

Are you fixing to bet me on something ???

I have backed it up at the window in the past, and I have gambled OUTSIDE of horseracing to the present--not that it is any of your business...

I do not consider gambling some big virtue, but I have gambled up to 5,000 bucks and the keys to my TVR--won both .

No big deal .

The very nature of my business is a gamble, and my return over 15 years is 300 percent, as is my lifetime return on playing the ponies from the day I put my allowance on Tim Tam in grade school .

Now piss off..

Is this serious or just messing with Hoss?

It's complicated and quite frankly I'm not in the mood for bird noises today.

Serious about what ???

If serious means true, then yes .

" Messing " with Hoss is subjective .. That was my answer to him .

Do you have a Hedge or Hedgehog fund?

Are there hedgefunds in the aviary ???

If you have that type of ROI, you should be living well and living off horses.

You've got a point.

You won't get rich but the hedgehog fund is a niche market. Proper marketing and you can triple your earnings in 2 years easy. Of course, it helps if you can handle a few pricks now and then...which I'm sure you could.

One may have that type of ROI, but the original investment may make the return less impressive--just saying .

I would rather live ON a horse than off them ..

That would be a great signature line. :)

I have never been rich but have managed to live ncely as I spent what I had well .. Earning big bucks at whatever I did never happened .

What I have needs to work harder for me ....

I will take this up with my investment counselor--something new for me ..

As I stated prior, the 300 percent was garnered from modest output and modest betting over time... On the ponies I never bet more than 50 bucks ..

The 5 grand bet was a mortal lock and the other person should never have taken it --in fact I advised them not to...

As far as pricks go, you nailed it ..

It would--thanks ...

Getting ready to ride the little bay boy in my avatar ...

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No she wouldn't.

She'd be no shorter than 9/5.