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ateamstupid 05-03-2010 07:24 PM

Hey Chuck, want to explain to me where the call was on that lay-up by KG where LeBron pretty much punched him in the head? Generally a good job, right?

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643705)
Hey Chuck, want to explain to me where the call was on that lay-up by KG where LeBron pretty much punched him in the head? Generally a good job, right?

want to explain to me how he got so open?

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 07:35 PM

Maybe KG pushed off, maybe Jamison fell. What was 100% goddamn obvious was that KG was fouled on the shot.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643717)
Maybe KG pushed off, maybe Jamison fell. What was 100% goddamn obvious was that KG was fouled on the shot.

So you want to pick and choose fouls? They could have called both, they called neither.

Rasheed is hot, enjoy it while it lasts

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 07:41 PM

When did Rondo turn into Chris Paul? He hits 3's off the dribble now? He should get MIP for the decade.

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643723)
So you want to pick and choose fouls? They could have called both, they called neither.

Rasheed is hot, enjoy it while it lasts

Pick and choose? One had to be called by anyone with two eyes, the other was borderline.

The first quarter was badly officiated on both sides. I don't expect that to last.

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643725)
When did Rondo turn into Chris Paul? He hits 3's off the dribble now? He should get MIP for the decade.

In my unofficial database, he's 20% with 4-24 seconds left on the shot/game clock. That number jumps to 67% with 1-3 seconds remaining.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 07:48 PM

The ghost of Rasheed has returned.

I have tried to defend some of the moves that Mike Brown has made and thought he has been unfairly knocked but he fcks up the rotation so badly sometimes. How he has Shaq on the floor with that unit makes zero sense.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 07:50 PM

Del negro out

perhaps a good move for cannonshell

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 08:07 PM

I hope Pierce fouls out. He's a goddamn black hole on offense when his shots aren't falling. Leave it to Doc to get the best 10 minutes of the season from Rasheed, then yank him. As terrible as he's been this year, you keep him on the floor until he turns back into the normal Sheed.

dalakhani 05-03-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643731)
Del negro out

perhaps a good move for cannonshell

Think they can get skiles back?

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 643743)
Think they can get skiles back?

no and he wont help me or Scavs

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643740)
I hope Pierce fouls out. He's a goddamn black hole on offense when his shots aren't falling. Leave it to Doc to get the best 10 minutes of the season from Rasheed, then yank him. As terrible as he's been this year, you keep him on the floor until he turns back into the normal Sheed.

He might of needed Oxygen. That was as hard as he has played in 3 years

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 08:14 PM

16 fouls to 4.


Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 08:19 PM

It is hard to believe that you can watch this game and have a problem with the officiating. The fact that Cleveland has spent most of the half attacking the basket and Boston has been shooting jumpers may have something to do with it? I mean where are the egregious bad calls or missed calls? Is the NBA looking for a Cleveland sweep?

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643752)
It is hard to believe that you can watch this game and have a problem with the officiating. The fact that Cleveland has spent most of the half attacking the basket and Boston has been shooting jumpers may have something to do with it? I mean where are the egregious bad calls or missed calls? Is the NBA looking for a Cleveland sweep?

I actually don't have as big of a problem with it tonight, but KG has gotten mauled by Jamison 2-3 times with no calls. Other than that, no major complaints, I just like pressing your buttons.

Also, I don't disagree with many of the calls on the Cavs end, but I think the officials have been mighty hesitant to blow the whistle when Boston has the ball.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643755)
I actually don't have as big of a problem with it tonight, but KG has gotten mauled by Jamison 2-3 times with no calls. Other than that, no major complaints, I just like pressing your buttons.

Also, I don't disagree with many of the calls on the Cavs end, but I think the officials have been mighty hesitant to blow the whistle when Boston has the ball.

http://www.draftexpress.com/2010-dra...agent-list.php

how can some of these guys declare? What about the two freshman from Oklahoma?

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 08:58 PM

It must be the elbow.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643773)
It must be the elbow.

No Stern personally told him that you were onto the ref thing and for the good of the league he had to play worse than Rasheed.

dalakhani 05-03-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643756)
http://www.draftexpress.com/2010-dra...agent-list.php

how can some of these guys declare? What about the two freshman from Oklahoma?

I have never understood what the scouts see in in Aminu of Wake. I realize that he is an athlete but he just doesn't seem like that skilled of basketball player.

Greg Monroe is 13th? Wow. Someone is going to get lucky there. He can play. I liked Bledsoe of Kentucky a lot. Needs to get a little more consistent with his shot but he is extremely athletic.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 643792)
I have never understood what the scouts see in in Aminu of Wake. I realize that he is an athlete but he just doesn't seem like that skilled of basketball player.

Greg Monroe is 13th? Wow. Someone is going to get lucky there. He can play. I liked Bledsoe of Kentucky a lot. Needs to get a little more consistent with his shot but he is extremely athletic.

I didnt watch Oklahoma a single time last year but obviously these two guys,
Tommy Mason-Griffin and Tiny Gallon thought themselves ready after 1 year despite being ranked 91 and 92. i dont know why the NBA insists on not opening the D league to these guys out of high school. The 19 year old rule can stay but guys like this shouldnt be in college. At least the top players are showcasing their skills to get huge contracts. These guys are just playing the year because they have nowhere else to go.

docicu3 05-03-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643773)
It must be the elbow.


1-1 see you in Boston elbow man!!

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 643792)
I have never understood what the scouts see in in Aminu of Wake. I realize that he is an athlete but he just doesn't seem like that skilled of basketball player.

Greg Monroe
is 13th? Wow. Someone is going to get lucky there. He can play. I liked Bledsoe of Kentucky a lot. Needs to get a little more consistent with his shot but he is extremely athletic.

Their mock draft has him going 9th to Utah with the Knicks pick. Thanks Isiah!

They have Aminu going 5th to the wizs

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 643803)
1-1 see you in Boston elbow man!!

tranquilize yourself!

dalakhani 05-03-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643804)
Their mock draft has him going 9th to Utah with the Knicks pick. Thanks Isiah!

They have Aminu going 5th to the wizs

There is no way that Ernie is stupid enough to draft that guy...is there?

This is a pretty deep draft. That Sanders from VCU is really good.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 643807)
There is no way that Ernie is stupid enough to draft that guy...is there?

This is a pretty deep draft. That Sanders from VCU is really good.

The Larry Sanders show

Coach Pants 05-03-2010 10:21 PM

Magic Johnson passed the torch to LeBron yesterday.

LOL.

He doesn't have HIV. No human that fat could take those meds for this long and not have full blown AIDS.

docicu3 05-03-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 643805)
tranquilize yourself!



Le Bron is scheduled to arrive in Boston early Tuesday AM to get a second opinion concerning his missing courage. He did however once again tonight display the 3 step bunny hop first seen during the 2006-2007 playoffs. Once again three graduates of David Sterns school for the blind swallowed their whistles so that children everywhere would learn how to travel just like The King.....

ateamstupid 05-03-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 643827)
Le Bron is scheduled to arrive in Boston early Tuesday AM to get a second opinion concerning his missing courage. He did however once again tonight display the 3 step bunny hop first seen during the 2006-2007 playoffs. Once again three graduates of David Sterns school for the blind swallowed their whistles so that children everywhere would learn how to travel just like The King.....

The clip of Doc incredulously counting the steps is priceless.

docicu3 05-04-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643832)
The clip of Doc incredulously counting the steps is priceless.



and accurate......

Listening to K Smith on TNT tells me that not everyone is drinking LJ's kool aid

ateamstupid 05-04-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 643843)
and accurate......

Listening to K Smith on TNT tells me that not everyone is drinking LJ's kool aid

Kenny Smith: Unlikely Voice of Reason

Barkley: "I'm not gonna make any excuses but (begins to make excuse)"

horseofcourse 05-04-2010 12:00 PM

I'm gonna do everyone a big favor and not even read what was posted on here!! ateam...even the refs couldn't overcome the Cavs 3rd quarter could they!! LOL.

horseofcourse 05-04-2010 12:07 PM

For a long time now – somewhere around seven years – the sports-following population of Northeast Ohio has treated LeBron James with a fearful reverence.

We revere him because of what he does on the basketball court. We fear him because this summer, he possesses the power to take that away from us and hand it to another team’s fans.

Because LeBron embodies greatness that we seldom see in this town, and because he’s a local product, we are slow to criticize him, quick to turn a blind eye to his faults and even quicker to shower his name with superlatives. On one level, it’s good. You should appreciate the good fortune of living in Ohio at a point in time when the best basketball player on the planet is from Ohio and plays for Ohio’s NBA team.

But maybe what you learned as a kid is true: too many sweets can be a bad thing.

If LeBron truly is all about Akron and feels a strong sense of connection to the region at large, maybe it’s time we stop worshipping the ground he walks on and start treating him like family.

In other words, put the right things in his head. Because in the wake of the Game 2 embarrassment versus the Celtics, I’m not sure LeBron has all the right things in his head.

LeBron’s stat line was decent enough – 24 points, seven rebounds, four assist, three steals and two blocks in 41 minutes. But that’s just the thing. It was decent by his standards. He can fill up a stat sheet to that tune while jamming out to Jay-Z on his headphones.

It was an early February stat line in an early May game – versus the hated Celtics, at home, in the second round of the playoffs, with a chance to take command of the series headed to Boston, where the Cavs have won once in three years.

LeBron set the tone for a whole lot of garbage from the starting five. Only Antawn Jamison joined LeBron as a double-figure scorer among the starters, and he cancelled that out by acting as Kevin Garnett’s chew toy at the defensive end.

What did I see out of LeBron on Monday? If I’m being brutally honest? I saw a guy who is going to win a lot of little bronze men and have a lot of MVP acceptance lovefests at venues of his choosing over the coming years. I also saw a guy who is never going to get familiar with hoisting gold trophies.

I saw Peyton Manning. I saw a player who is the best in the business during the regular season, who might stumble into a title or two over the years, but will never form the centerpiece of a dynasty, no matter the supporting cast.

I saw a player who is maybe a little too comfortable in his own skin as a media icon, as dominant force on the court, who goes for way too many recklessly-launched three-balls with the game on the line when running a play and trying for a higher-percentage shot is the more logical solution. A player who is a little too in love with the “Did he really just do that?” play, who tries to drop jaws as much as he tries to win games. A player who tries something like shooting a free throw left-handed as soon as he knows the game is locked up, then turns his elbow bruise into front page news across the country.

LeBron is allegedly the hungriest superstar out there. He knows he needs titles to cement his star in the constellation of Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Kareem and Bird. He talks about it all the time. But then the playoffs arrive, elite competition beckons, and LeBron’s supposedly-developing killer instinct goes cold.

Last year, he tried to singlehandedly haul the Cavs over Orlando, averaging 40 points per game for the series and turning dribble-drivers Mo Williams and Delonte West into spot-up shooters in the process. LeBron was a one-man show who eventually stopped looking for help, and the Cavs lost the series in six games.

At least the Cavs legitimately had horrible matchup problems with Orlando, so the blame makes the rounds. But LeBron didn’t help his team win just because he tried to score all the points. If anything, he hurt the Cavs in that series by trying to do too much and not demanding more from his teammates.

This year, LeBron had a nice warm-up against an overmatched Bulls team in the first round, but has now led the Cavs to three miserable halves of basketball in the first two games against the Celtics.

Either his elbow is bothering him way more than he’s letting on, something else is wrong, or we’re once again seeing LeBron and his teammates dazed and confused when encountering a hard-to-solve playoff opponent.

The Cavs do not look like a championship team at the moment. They’re going to have to look like a championship team – and LeBron is going to have to look like a champion – if they want to knock off the experienced, composed, proven-title-winner Celtics and even have the privilege of worrying about how to handle a rematch with the Orlando Magic in the conference finals.

Right now, what I see is a team that is quickly gaining a reputation as a paper tiger. A team that is a close cousin of the Dallas Mavericks of the 2000s and the Sacramento Kings of early last decade. Impressive regular season accomplishments and not much to show for it in the way of postseason hardware.

If this season ends with another humiliating playoff defeat, if LeBron follows up his second straight MVP award with a third straight non-congratulatory storm-off after an early elimination, the “overrated” chants will grow deafening for both player and team. And, as much as I hate to say it, it will be deserved.

If that happens, LeBron will have a lot more weighing him down than where he wants to play next season.

clyde 05-04-2010 02:47 PM

Shirley you didn't write this.

Antitrust32 05-04-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 644026)
Shirley you didn't write this.

I met a girl named Shirley and thought of you! :eek:

horseofcourse 05-04-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 644026)
Shirley you didn't write this.

of course I didn't. you didn't have the delusions I was that smart did you?? Pretty well said, by a Cleveland homer though the article.

clyde 05-04-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 644039)
I met a girl named Shirley and thought of you! :eek:


I am behooved and besmirched.

clyde 05-04-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 644054)
of course I didn't. you didn't have the delusions I was that smart did you?? Pretty well said, by a Cleveland homer though the article.


!!!!


I llllike ya!!

docicu3 05-04-2010 11:29 PM

Gotta love Gen Manager of the C's, Danny Ainge apparently trying to distract Clev. forward JJ Hickson while he was at the line shooting a pair Monday night.

Ainge who is known for irritating most people with a pulse decided it was a good idea to try the ole' "bath towel toss" in front of the hoop with less than two minutes to play of a game which at that point would be kindly described as less than competitive.

Great to see Danny teaching sportsmanship to all the kiddies in attendance as he reminessed with other middle aged fans what it was like to be bitten severely on the hand requiring sutures for pissing off 7Ft Atlanta center Tree Rollins during a playoff game some 20 years ago.

David Stern will probably suspend Rhondo for a game or two just to remind people of his excellent judgement years ago when he stole the Western final for San Antonio with a similar silly suspension as Phoenix threatened to ruin TV ratings for the rest of the playoffs if popular San Antonio was eliminated.

Danny now well into his 50's continues to act like a two year old in public especially when court side despite running arguably the most famous basketball team in the free world. I don't know which I like better this little tantrum of a game well in hand or Ainge's recent ticket fiasco as he "accidentally" was found sitting conveniently next to the mother of a potential recruit so he could take the opportunity to sing the virtue's of gang green right before the draft......Red is surly smiling in his grave!!

ateamstupid 05-05-2010 12:24 AM

Hey Chuck, no issues with the disparate treatment under the basket w/the Lakers and Jazz in the 4th quarter tonight? Seemed like LA got away with a lot more contact, but that may just be my loony conspiracy theory alter ego acting up again!


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