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Riot 01-19-2010 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Someone tell me has the UN done anything?
You mean other than try to pull their dead peacekeepers out of their headquarters in Haiti? Yeah - the lucky one's that were not trapped continue their job in the face of that.

timmgirvan 01-20-2010 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Riot
??? No facts? The jerk said what he said, Timmi. Clips from his show - in context, not just excerpts - are readily available all across the internet.
I have read the transcripts of the conversation in question, and no way does it portray the slanderous crap you put out there....smoke and mirrors and innuendo. Pile of cotton candy you are....lotta spin and no substance.

GBBob 01-20-2010 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I have read the transcripts of the conversation in question, and no way does it portray the slanderous crap you put out there....smoke and mirrors and innuendo. Pile of cotton candy you are....lotta spin and no substance.
Really?..Why don't you post some of what you read. Because what I heard him say sure sounded like what Riot and others have been posting about

Danzig 01-20-2010 07:02 AM
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."

quoth rush limbaugh



RUSH LIMBAUGH: This will play right into Obama's hands. Humanitarian, compassionate. They'll use this to, to burnish their, shall we say, credibility with the black community, the both light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in, in this country. It's made-to-order for him. That's why he couldn't wait to get out there, could not wait to get out there.




made to order?!

Nascar1966 01-20-2010 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
I disagree with many here who are Republicans like you are and that's cool. It's what makes America what it is. But I just feel sorry for you that you don't have a bone of empathy in your body for those not as fortunate as us...especially children. You were in the service...did you travel around the World and see what these poor kids are born into? You would really dump a boatload of Haitian refugees in the ocean?

I do feel for the children. They aren't the ones looting.

jms62 01-20-2010 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
I do feel for the children. They aren't the ones looting.
How would you react to a situation where you had no food ,no water, no work and children that were dying due to starvation and dehydration? Would you stand by and watch them die or do things that you never would consider doing? It is easy to pass judgement sitting where we are but it is desperation down there like none have ever seen.

Danzig 01-20-2010 08:07 AM
i saw yesterday they are saying 200k dead...and now a 6.1 earthquake has hit. 1.5 million people are homeless. they had nothing, and now they have even less.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34830229...news-americas/

Antitrust32 01-20-2010 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
I agree with you lets get our people out and the hell with Haiti. Where were they when 9/11 happened and what about Hurricane Katrina. Im sure they were looting in the streets in thier country. If i was on a boat and saw some Haitians trying to illegally enter our country I would make sure that whatever they are floating on capsizes. Why should our taxpaying money go to helping others out when we have American citizens who cant afford to buy food and clothing and are living on the streets. America needs to take care of Americans first. I also wish this countries leaders would tell the UN where to go. The UN is one of the biggest if not the biggest waste of an organization there is. All they do is cry USA please help us out. Who is supplying most of the peace keeping troops? What about giving the most aid? Someone tell me has the UN done anything?
are you serious???

just remember, what goes around comes around. i wouldnt mess with karma like that!

Coach Pants 01-20-2010 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
are you serious???

just remember, what goes around comes around. i wouldnt mess with karma like that!
I knew it. You're into Voodoo, thus your empathy for Haitians. Tell you what...I'll send 20 chickens to the Red Cross.

Antitrust32 01-20-2010 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I knew it. You're into Voodoo, thus your empathy for Haitians. Tell you what...I'll send 20 chickens to the Red Cross.

LOL Karma is the only religion i've bought into.

Its hard not to have empathy for a country where its people are trapped under their own houses though.

timmgirvan 01-20-2010 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."

quoth rush limbaugh



RUSH LIMBAUGH: This will play right into Obama's hands. Humanitarian, compassionate. They'll use this to, to burnish their, shall we say, credibility with the black community, the both light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in, in this country. It's made-to-order for him. That's why he couldn't wait to get out there, could not wait to get out there.




made to order?!
Never let a crisis go to waste---Rahmbo E

Nascar1966 01-20-2010 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
are you serious???

just remember, what goes around comes around. i wouldnt mess with karma like that!

I have already survived karma. Did you already forget about Hurricane Ike like mostly everyone else has. I know it wasnt quite the magnitude as Katrina was, sure was alot of devastaion though. Didnt need any of our worthless governments help to move on. Just ask the people who lost lives and houses due to Ike. Where is the government out helping them. There are still houses that have tarps on them. Seems like this country would rather help out another country before helping thier own out.

Riot 01-20-2010 02:28 PM
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I have already survived karma. Did you already forget about Hurricane Ike like mostly everyone else has. I know it wasnt quite the magnitude as Katrina was, sure was alot of devastaion though. Didnt need any of our worthless governments help to move on.
"Past success is no guarantee of future returns".

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Just ask the people who lost lives and houses due to Ike. Where is the government out helping them. There are still houses that have tarps on them. Seems like this country would rather help out another country before helping thier own out.
Right now, this country is desperately trying to "help it's own" in several ways. Trouble is, every time such an attempt is made, there are always some people screaming that we, "helping our own" is an expensive socialist agenda.

You can't have it both ways.

Riot 01-20-2010 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I have read the transcripts of the conversation in question, and no way does it portray the slanderous crap you put out there....smoke and mirrors and innuendo. Pile of cotton candy you are....lotta spin and no substance.
Post it, and we can sure discuss it.

Riot 01-20-2010 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
made to order?!
Now, now, 'Zig, let's not cherry pick :D and forget Rush's many previous comments regarding those who don't have white skin.

Or penises ;)

Nascar1966 01-20-2010 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
"Past success is no guarantee of future returns".



Right now, this country is desperately trying to "help it's own" in several ways. Trouble is, every time such an attempt is made, there are always some people screaming that we, "helping our own" is an expensive socialist agenda.

You can't have it both ways.

I commend you for expressing your views. Good reading material.

Riot 01-20-2010 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
I commend you for expressing your views. Good reading material.
Being a cat afficionado, I have always loved your avatar.

Nascar1966 01-20-2010 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Being a cat afficionado, I have always loved your avatar.
Thanks. I am also a cat lover. My cat I saved from the streets. Very loving cat. Dog lover also. If you want to hear the story about the pit bull I have I will PM it to you. You will think say "What was I thinking"

Riot 01-20-2010 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Thanks. I am also a cat lover. My cat I saved from the streets. Very loving cat. Dog lover also. If you want to hear the story about the pit bull I have I will PM it to you. You will think say "What was I thinking"
PM me - gotta love a good pit bull story

SCUDSBROTHER 01-22-2010 11:14 PM
This Hope for Haiti Telethon is like a sputtering car. Good singing performances followed by having to listen to stars small talk with fans on the phone(brutal.) That small talk crap has to be the idea of a woman. That I'm sure of. They tend to love that stuff, and men are trying to survive it...


Julia Roberts - "How old are your kids?"

Moron- "4 and 7"..

Julia Roberts - "What a great age."

....F'n Brutal.

Coach Pants 01-23-2010 12:30 AM
It makes you wish the Earthquake would of hit all of the telethon locations instead of Haiti.

Arletta 01-27-2010 07:12 AM
Wow.. Pulled someone out alive after 14 days!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35086799...ake/?gt1=43001

Coach Pants 01-30-2010 08:52 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60T23I20100130

Lock them up for at least 5 years.

Nascar1966 01-31-2010 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
You mean other than try to pull their dead peacekeepers out of their headquarters in Haiti? Yeah - the lucky one's that were not trapped continue their job in the face of that.

I will give you that one. Name me something else they have done worth a crap. Its a shame the USA is the keeper of the world especially when hardly anyone else helps out when the USA is in need. Where were all these other countries when Katrina and Ike hit? This country needs to start care of our own instead of giving all these other countries handouts.

Riot 01-31-2010 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
I will give you that one. Name me something else they have done worth a crap. Its a shame the USA is the keeper of the world especially when hardly anyone else helps out when the USA is in need. Where were all these other countries when Katrina and Ike hit? This country needs to start care of our own instead of giving all these other countries handouts.
Wow - I had no idea: read this about the foreign aid offered by many, many countries after Katrina. It's huge!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ricane_Katrina

Unfortunately, there is this note, after the lists of countries, and what they offered, too:

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Actual funds used

An article in the April 29, 2007 Washington Post claimed that of the $854 million offered by foreign countries, whom the article dubs "allies," to the US Government, only $40 million of the funds had been spent "for disaster victims or reconstruction" as of the date of publication (less than 5%).[49]

Additionally, a large portion of the $854 million in aid offered went uncollected, including over $400 million in oil (almost 50%).[49]

Cannon Shell 01-31-2010 06:19 PM
If there is ever a disaster in Hungary we should make sure we get them thier 5 grand back

Nascar1966 02-01-2010 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Wow - I had no idea: read this about the foreign aid offered by many, many countries after Katrina. It's huge!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ricane_Katrina

Unfortunately, there is this note, after the lists of countries, and what they offered, too:

Interesting reading. Where is Haiti at on the lis?. Another noticable country missing from the list is Somalia. Thats right they offered no help. Yet thier getting all this help. At least now there are less AIDS infested people to worry about and less Haitians trying to enter this country illegally. I know Haitians arent the only one's trying to enter this country illegally. Looking at the list some countries promised relief in money but did they actually keep thier word about. As far Chavez I dont trust him one bit.

DerbyCat 02-01-2010 12:05 PM
Quick story for you... Here at Santa Clara University, we were collecting donations for Haiti earthquake relief at our basketball games this past week. A university staff member went to drop off the buckets of change at the Red Cross office this morning. When the Red Cross staff member asked which organization had collected the donations, our staff member told him it was Santa Clara Basketball. The Red Cross staff member handed the money back and said, "Santa Clara Basketball? You keep the money, you're a bigger disaster than the Haiti Earthquake!"


:eek: ;) :D










Yes, it's a just a joke... but we suck this year :wf

Cannon Shell 02-01-2010 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Interesting reading. Where is Haiti at on the lis?. Another noticable country missing from the list is Somalia. Thats right they offered no help. Yet thier getting all this help. At least now there are less AIDS infested people to worry about and less Haitians trying to enter this country illegally. I know Haitians arent the only one's trying to enter this country illegally. Looking at the list some countries promised relief in money but did they actually keep thier word about. As far Chavez I dont trust him one bit.
I dont think Somolia has a functioning, organized gov't so giving them a pass may be prudent.

Cannon Shell 02-01-2010 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DerbyCat
Quick story for you... Here at Santa Clara University, we were collecting donations for Haiti earthquake relief at our basketball games this past week. A university staff member went to drop off the buckets of change at the Red Cross office this morning. When the Red Cross staff member asked which organization had collected the donations, our staff member told him it was Santa Clara Basketball. The Red Cross staff member handed the money back and said, "Santa Clara Basketball? You keep the money, you're a bigger disaster than the Haiti Earthquake!"


:eek: ;) :D










Yes, it's a just a joke... but we suck this year :wf
Steve Nash aint walking through that door...

Nascar1966 02-01-2010 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont think Somolia has a functioning, organized gov't so giving them a pass may be prudent.

Then why is the USA still sending aid for that worthless country? If the USA isn't sending aid to them they dont deserve it.

Cannon Shell 02-01-2010 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Then why is the USA still sending aid for that worthless country? If the USA isn't sending aid to them they deserve it.
Because we are Americans and we help people in need. The "we shouldnt help them, what do they do for us" attitude is beyond moronic. The fact remains that the US does far more for the world in general than any other nation. Which is what made the Obama apology tour such a disgrace for those of us that understand the previous sentence.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-02-2010 11:30 AM
"One of the first countries to offer aid, Cuba offered to send 1,586 doctors and 26 tons of medicine. This aid was rejected by the State Department."

Wow.:zz:

Nascar1966 02-02-2010 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
"One of the first countries to offer aid, Cuba offered to send 1,586 doctors and 26 tons of medicine. This aid was rejected by the State Department."

Wow.:zz:

This is a example of politics coming into hand to instead of the needs of a human being. Its a disgrace that examples of that happen.

Antitrust32 02-02-2010 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
This is a example of politics coming into hand to instead of the needs of a human being. Its a disgrace that examples of that happen.
since when do you care about the needs of human beings?

I thought you said 250,000 haitians dieing is a good thing so they can't immigrate their AIDS infested bodies illegally to America?

Nascar1966 02-02-2010 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
since when do you care about the needs of human beings?

I thought you said 250,000 haitians dieing is a good thing so they can't immigrate their AIDS infested bodies illegally to America?

It still is.

GPK 02-02-2010 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
It still is.
Repent? Is that you?

Nascar1966 02-02-2010 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Because we are Americans and we help people in need. The "we shouldnt help them, what do they do for us" attitude is beyond moronic. The fact remains that the US does far more for the world in general than any other nation. Which is what made the Obama apology tour such a disgrace for those of us that understand the previous sentence.

Arent you tired of America taking care of everyone else. Maybe if we took care of our own thier would be less homeless people on the streets at night. Maybe the needs for food pantries would get lower. But just like every other President has we kiss eveyone else's ass.

Riot 02-02-2010 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nascar1966
Arent you tired of America taking care of everyone else. Maybe if we took care of our own thier would be less homeless people on the streets at night.
So you are in favor of Medicaid, health care reform, etc?

Nascar1966 02-02-2010 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
So you are in favor of Medicaid, health care reform, etc?

Im not in favor of health care reform. I agree with people needing health insurance but why should the taxpayer pay for someone who can work and doesnt want to work. Im sure O'Dumbass is going to make an attempt to include worthless illegals in the health reform.


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