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Antitrust32 10-29-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Yeah, but how many of those games came with it south of 47 degrees on the thermometer?
:rolleyes:


also, honestly.. 50 degree's isnt that cold. 38 would be a different story. cold weather is tougher on hitters than pitchers... try catching one at the end of the bat.. your hands will be hurting for hours!

gales0678 10-29-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I'm finding it funny that Pedro's ability to win this game against his "daddy" is being questioned because of the weather.

NT


he's never pitched well in the cold , we shall see tonight

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
im told not to worry , the yanks will jog tonight

Really? I mean how long has it been since someone jogged when playing against these people? It has to be at least 3 weeks.

Gander 10-29-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Yeah, but how many of those games came with it south of 47 degrees on the thermometer?
:rolleyes:

I dont have an answer to this but I have to imagine its more than you might think. It gets this cold in September in Boston and New York and hes also pitched in about 10 post season games (guess), that I have to imagine half of them were around this cold.

He may well get pounded on tonight but I doubt its the cold that beats him. Its really not even that cold out.

Gander 10-29-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
he's never pitched well in the cold , we shall see tonight

Its fairly warm up here. Whats it like down there?

MaTH716 10-29-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I dont have an answer to this but I have to imagine its more than you might think. It gets this cold in September in Boston and New York and hes also pitched in about 10 post season games (guess), that I have to imagine half of them were around this cold.

He may well get pounded on tonight but I doubt its the cold that beats him. Its really not even that cold out.

PSST......Gander, I was being sarcastic.....

Antitrust32 10-29-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Really? I mean how long has it been since someone jogged when playing against these people? It has to be at least 3 weeks.


we got jogged on in the end of the season often.. we were very up and down this year (but that is just how baseball goes)

no jogging, galloping, or even trotting since the real games started.. it could always happen though, its a funny game!

gales0678 10-29-2009 03:42 PM

this just came up on the fan .....was lee using pine tar , look at how many times he touched his hat last night , francessca wouldn't get into it with the caller

Antitrust32 10-29-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
this just came up on the fan .....was lee using pine tar , look at how many times he touched his hat last night , francessca wouldn't get into it with the caller


so sorry gales, but the cheaters only play on the blue team.

Gander 10-29-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
PSST......Gander, I was being sarcastic.....

LOL, should have picked up on it.

Gander 10-29-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
this just came up on the fan .....was lee using pine tar , look at how many times he touched his hat last night , francessca wouldn't get into it with the caller

Any coincidence this would come up on a NY Talk Show?
How does Francessa get his hair to stay in that position by the way?
Must be pine tar.

MaTH716 10-29-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
this just came up on the fan .....was lee using pine tar , look at how many times he touched his hat last night , francessca wouldn't get into it with the caller

That did actually go through my head last night. What made me think of it was the rosin (white splotches) he had on the bill and the back of his cap.
That being said, it's probably nothing more than a conspiricy theory by Yankee fans that just can't face the fact that they had their lunches served to them last night by Cliff Lee.

Antitrust32 10-29-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Any coincidence this would come up on a NY Talk Show?
How does Francessa get his hair to stay in that position by the way?
Must be pine tar.


ya know, it would make sense, in the biggest game of Cliff Lee's life, he would cheat and put pine tar on his hat while every HD camera in the country is focused on him. makes tons of sense.. must be true.

gales0678 10-29-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Any coincidence this would come up on a NY Talk Show?
How does Francessa get his hair to stay in that position by the way?
Must be pine tar.


Francessa hung up on the guy , it was brought up by a fan

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
hammered by atl and was , good against LA , now 1st start against an AL team

Well, L.A. wasn't a true test. That's true. They have very little plate discipline. He looked like he was pitching well, but the Dodgers offense shouldn't be compared to the Yanks. L.A. is a good pitching team that(except for 1 starting performance) simply didn't pitch. You know, somehow, these Phillies. Well, you'll see. People struggle when they are forced to pitch well against them. If you don't pitch well, this team will simply eat you up. They don't just foul these mistakes off. They will hit them in places that will not please you. It forces someone to pitch like their best to just survive. Where is the break in their line-up? Feliz Navidad?

gales0678 10-29-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, L.A. wasn't a true test. That's true. They have very little plate discipline. He looked like he was pitching well, but the Dodgers offense shouldn't be compared to the Yanks. L.A. is a good pitching team that(except for 1 starting performance) simply didn't pitch. You know, somehow, these Phillies. Well, you'll see. People struggle when they are forced to pitch well against them. If you don't pitch well, this team will simply eat you up. They don't just foul these mistakes off. They will hit them in places that will not please you.


over 9 s/b a lock then tonight

Antitrust32 10-29-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
over 9 s/b a lock then tonight


You and your "locks"

Why dont ya just "lock" yourself in your basement?

SniperSB23 10-29-2009 04:00 PM

From 7 to 9 we are looking at temperatures from 52 to 54 degrees. Anyone trying to use the cold as an argument is really trying hard to justify making a bad wager.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
we got jogged on in the end of the season often.. we were very up and down this year (but that is just how baseball goes)

no jogging, galloping, or even trotting since the real games started.. it could always happen though, its a funny game!

Just being lazy. When they started playing L.A., they stopped being lazy. Understood it was time to go. They toy. I knew we were dead (in the series) in the middle of that 1st game. This wasn't the same team we played during the regular season. This team has versions, and we were never gunna beat this version.

Gander 10-29-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Just being lazy. When they started playing L.A., they stopped being lazy. Understood it was time to go. They toy. I knew we were dead (in the series) in the middle of that 1st game. This wasn't the same team we played during the regular season. This team has versions, and we were never gunna beat this version.

:tro:

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
game 4 nlcs this year , series should have been 2-2

I read where this person did this last year, too. He seems good at this. What a prize he is.

Gander 10-29-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I read where this person did this last year, too. He seems good at this. What a prize he is.

How about we trade you Papelbum for Broxton, straight up?

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
How about we trade you Papelbum for Broxton, straight up?

Done. So much white trash going back n' forth. Where are the race cars, and the oval?

Gander 10-29-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Done. So much white trash going back n' forth. Where are the race cars, and the oval?

LOL, at least the guy who plays for your team actually looked like he cared. Papelbum didnt appear to be fazed and may have not known it was an elimination game.

Broxton bears a striking resemblance to Erik Gagne, no?

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
LOL, at least the guy who plays for your team actually looked like he cared. Papelbum didnt appear to be fazed and may have not known it was an elimination game.

Broxton bears a striking resemblance to Erik Gagne, no?

Both= slobs that get owned.

Gander 10-29-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Both= slobs that get owned.

How bad was gagne when we had him?!!! :D
It almost got funny. We got a title that year too.

Cannon Shell 10-29-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
this just came up on the fan .....was lee using pine tar , look at how many times he touched his hat last night , francessca wouldn't get into it with the caller

Of course the Yankees never lose, they are always somehow cheated. Reason #4583.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
How bad was gagne when we had him?!!! :D
It almost got funny. We got a title that year too.

Gagne have a ring for being there, n' doing that?

3kings 10-29-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
Francessa hung up on the guy , it was brought up by a fan

Was it you?

herkhorse 10-29-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
My confidence is definitley a bit shaken (not that I thought the Yanks are/were a lock to win it anyway).
The only positive that I can take out of last nights game is that CC didn't have his best stuff and only gave up 2 runs.
I'm not sure that Cliff Lee can be as dominate again (even though he has been lights out so far in the playoffs).

Otherwise,
The Yanks bullpen has issues.
Texieria, Matsui, Swisher, Cano just not hitting. Jeter and A-Rod can only carry a team so far.
No real other option on the bench to Sub for someone. Phils have such a gut of Left handers that kind of keeps Hinske on the bench (although wouldn't be suprised to see to see him tonight)
The choke factor, even though the are the defending world champs they seemed very loose last night. They are a good team and they know it.
Bombers seemed a bit tight last night and never got the hit or rally early enough to loosen up and get in the game. If they fall behind again tonight, you might see them gripping those a bats even tighter trying to make something happen. There is a ton of pressure on them.
The Girardi factor/small ball. They just refuse to play small ball when needed. Last night with Matsui on first and Cano up (who really has not hit much in the playoffs) and down a run. Let's him swing away and e hits into a DP.

So there are issues. Either Gales and other people don't want to admit it or they just don't believe it, but they are there. I do think that they will shell Pedro tonight. But with that being said I can also see Burnett giving up a few crooked numbers too. Probably will come down to which bullpen does the best damage control tonight. It just feels like a 9-8 game tonight and hopefully the Bombers come out on top.
Not in Panic mode, but I'm definitely concerned.

You are way to rational to be a Yankees fan. I prefer stuff like this:

"won't bother me a bit, i would like to win tonight

if hamels is so good why is he not pitching tonight?

pedro in the cold weather in october , not worried a bit tim , even if we lose tonight we can still win"

GBBob 10-29-2009 08:48 PM

Yankee Stadium is bedlam tonight


yeah...

Bigsmc 10-29-2009 08:57 PM

If Pedro works any slower, I won't make it to the 6th inning.

MaTH716 10-29-2009 10:32 PM

Love him or hate him that was a gutsy effort by Pedro.

MaTH716 10-29-2009 10:45 PM

Tough call that goes against the Yanks. The thing that bothers me is that how can the ump be so adamant about the call if he was behind Howard? How the hell is he supposed know if he caught it or not with a veiw from behind the play? Took them right out of a possible big inning.

MaTH716 10-29-2009 11:34 PM

Wow I was wrong about the run total for tonight. Another great pitchers duel. A.J. did what they paid him to do. He has electric stuff when he's on and he had it going tonight. I actually thought that Girardi should have sent him out there for the 8th.
Can't take anything away from Pedro. He was pretty damn good too (the tempature must have been above 55 for him to pitch like that. :rolleyes: ) He pitched well enough and put his team in position to win. The other guys were just a bit better tonight.
I really thought a big play in the game that got overlooked was Werth getting picked off first by Molina. It seemed to charge up the crowd and get them back in the game. Then in the bottom of the inning Texieria finally showed up and there seemed to be a collective breath from the Yankee nation.
It's a best 5 series now. Still looks like it's going to go down to the wire. It's going to be interesting for the Yanks to see if and when A-Rod shows up again and if Texieria and Matsui can move foward off their big hits tonight. Also will Joe Girardi ever bring anyone else in from the bullpen not named Rivera?
Once again the Phillies would not go away. They are a good scrappy team that got the short end of a call in the bottom in the 8th and then sent the tying run up in the 9th against Mo.
Looking foward toward Saturday

SniperSB23 10-30-2009 12:05 AM

This entire series comes down to Cole Hamels in Game 3. We know Pettite is going to give up 2-4 runs over 6-8 innings, he's an established posteason quality start. What we don't know is which Cole Hamels shows up. He could easily throw a shutout in G3 or give up 8 runs and be gone by the 3rd. He's the enigma that ultimately decides the series.

ateamstupid 10-30-2009 01:43 AM

The Yankees have a huge decision when it comes to Gaudin. I personally would pitch him up 2-1. Anything beyond that, I wouldn't use him. Down 2-1, you have to pitch CC and AJ. Game 3 is going to be huge for how the Yankees use their rotation.

Antitrust32 10-30-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Tough call that goes against the Yanks. The thing that bothers me is that how can the ump be so adamant about the call if he was behind Howard? How the hell is he supposed know if he caught it or not with a veiw from behind the play? Took them right out of a possible big inning.


That was a bad call, but it was made even with Utley called out on that double play in the 8th. It was real hard to tell with utley, was only able to tell when they slowed it down, so both calls were though calls, and the umps got them wrong both times, but at least it wasnt so blantent.

AJ Burnett was great.. was excited a little when we got to him a small bit early.. but then he turned on another gear and pitched well. Rivira was good too, but was also hopefull seeing us get some hits off him.

Pedro was very good (just a small handful of mistakes that the Yanks capitolized on). was pissing me off when the damn commentaters were like 'he's going to strike out the side.. the heart of the yankees lineup.. I knew Matsui was going to do something when the damn fox guys started talking like that. A little bummed that our pitchers only gave up 3 runs and we couldnt capitolize on that, didnt hit great with runners in scoring position.

On to Philly.. Phillies did what they wanted to and got homefield back, they have been terrific (11-1) in post series games at the Bank.. but this is going to be a great great series. I'm hoping Cole gets his head on right, dont want to pitch out of the bullpen for 5 innings thats for sure.

I'm thinking this series goes 7 games.

2Hot4TV 10-30-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MaTH716 10-30-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The Yankees have a huge decision when it comes to Gaudin. I personally would pitch him up 2-1. Anything beyond that, I wouldn't use him. Down 2-1, you have to pitch CC and AJ. Game 3 is going to be huge for how the Yankees use their rotation.

I think you will see C.C. on 3 days rest reguardless in Game 4. That would also set him up to pitch game 7 if ness. Gaudin has been ok for the Yanks, but I just think you have to ride your big horse here. I think Game 5 is the open game for the Yanks . Depending where they are in the series, it would probably be Burnett on 3 days if they are down or Gaudin if they are up. If it's Gaudin, that would set up for Burnett in game 6 on normal rest and then having CC for game 7 on 3 days with a rested Pettite in the pen for rescue work.


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