QR ran well Travis, better than I thought he would at 1 1/4, Summer Bird was good today, I'll have to look at the race again but I really expected him to blow the field away and would have done so had QR not had run so big. Onto the Classic and if he can win the race first and with some authority he may get a few HOY votes thrown his way, nonetheless it was a historical win today.

I give up.

Like I said before, when they take a race off the turf in NY after the start of the pick 6 sequence, it is shown as an "ALL" race, so any runner is a winner. If he had more than one in the last leg, for example two live runners, it would have displayed $190k/2 = $95k per ticket, three live runners would have shown $190k/3 = $63k per ticket, etc.

I gotcha now,sorry.

Interpatation, yeah like I used this horse. Not in a million years.

How the hell does TAP's coupled entries in the Beldame get bet down to 5-2?

What a brutal betting day, but props to Gander who hit Kodiak Kowboy at 9-2

:) :$:

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I do gotta wonder how The Fat Charts would have ranked his chances today:rolleyes:

English Channel would have never let him re-rally past him like Gio Ponti did

$2 pick pays $14,649

Sorry Joe, I just didn't wanna be the only one catching sh*t:D

Fine showing from the older horses today in the Gold Cup.

You kind of figured Rachel buried those dudes.

Not really. They sucked before they ran against her, they'll continue to suck afterwards.

Macho ran his race in the Woodward he isnt putting two big efforts like that together. Asiatic Boy is still in detox from leaving de Kock, Dry Martini is a grade 3 horse. Sette Mezzo would have won the Hirsch

Fine. They still all suck.

Thanks NTamm. It was a really good day and Kodiak Kowboy was the one who got things rolling. Didnt have Interpretation or Pure Clan but had the late double a lot of times.

They do suck.. Speaking of SUXING Interpatation???GET THE F CUK OUT OF HERE???

You missed Interpatation HOW???

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The irony in that is I have played this horse many times, in races where he would have paid more than he did today. Oh well. It would have stung a lot more had that 1 horse not won the last race.

I guess I can watch turf racing tomorrow morning from Longchamps.. In all candor US turf racing is so inferior to Europe that it really shouldn't be considered in the same league. US horse completely sux.. All the stock is in Europe all the pedigree is there and we simply have a completely inferior product in the US. I was dreaming for a few hours and looked at the Wildenstein, Wertheimer, and Khan stock... The US has like 100 potential horses each year for sale to their 1000 produced in strong hands.

I was alive on a 7 dollar ticket singled to Asiatic Boy for 21k. Kodiak, Clan, all, AB.....Needless to say what could've been. At least I didn't have to worry about a stretch drive.

Interpatation had only been defeated in 17 races in a row .. and was just 1 for his last 28 ... with that lone win over that span coming at Philly Park.

The only possible thing to not dislike about him would have been the fact that he was a huge price in a race where the weather was chaotic and the ground was extremely soft.

When Interpatation changed back to lefty lead, around midstretch, his action was so bad that it appeared he was about to fall on his face. Then, we saw just about the UGLIEST lefty lead, the rest of the stretch, that I've seen in over 30 years of watching races. YET, he was able to, basically, BLOW BY Gio Ponti late. What a ****in' joke of a race. I lost all respect for GP after this one. Good horses just aren't supposed to lose that way. This was just UGLY.

I too thought Interpretation was about to fall down when he switched leads.

Fat Charts have interpatations winning in a windsheild wiper wipe out?

When you are stumbling in 27 what is the difference what your action looks like or what lead you are on. Just a pathetic horse race, but congrats to the connections...well done..Get the F out of hear that horse is a friggin pig

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I thought he took a bad step there and thought for sure the race was over... Do you think Ramon took his foot off the pedal once he got the lead.

you don't think the soft bog had anything at all to do with gio pontis race? i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him.

He had a great year, but most of the horses he beat are simply not that good. Where does he go from here? I doubt he can win the BCC and I would not touch him going 1 1/2 in the turf.

Best chance and really the most logical race for Gio Ponti is the Classic.
I dont care what the conditions were yesterday, no excuse for him not to go by the overmatched Interpretation. How can you use the bog as an excuse when it clearly didnt bother him up until the point he hung after he got by Interpretation? I mean if he hated the turf so much how come he even got himself up and past Interpretation? I think the distance got him beat.

Yesterday's race doesn't say much about his ability to get 12F at Santa Anita, where the first half mile of the race will be run downhill. He got 11F nicely in the Man O War; yesterday's boggy course, leading to a final time of 2:41, was as "heavy" as the turf will ever be here.

I thought Dominguez pulled the trigger too soon on Gio Ponti, when Telling ranged up on his outside he sent GP, kind of like he did in The Arlington Million, the heavy going and extra distance coupled with the premature move hurt him, I don't think I'd dismiss him in the Turf, if Dominguez would quit riding so wide, and moving too soon, he'll be right there at Santa Anita.

I dont give Gio Ponti much of a chance to win any Breeders Cup race, He might be best sutied for the mile, but he would not even be the horse to beat there....

So who will be the horse to beat there?

Even with her loss yesterday I would take Goldikova any day over Gio Ponti.

Is it possible that Gio Ponti wasn't on go for this? The big race is next month (whichever they choose) and they could have been using this as a prep. That being said, even as a prep, he should have run past his rival today.

Is it possible that everyone's ignoring that that race was run under some of the most ridiculous conditions in the history of American racing? Is it possible that Gio Ponti is nowhere near a 12 furlong horse and certainly not the 14 or so that yesterday's race played like?

I understand that he's supposed to run right by Interpatation but one thing that Interpatation had proved he was was a stayer.

I would put slightly above 0 stock in that performance in terms of analyzing Gio Ponti. I also love him cutting back in the Classic and I think that was the intent all along.

NT

perhaps class and ability got him as far as it did, but you can't ignore a turf horses likes and dislikes and the cut in the ground. a horse who likes firm turf will often get beat when there's too much cut, and that may well have been what cost gio the win yesterday. the horse has done to well up to yesterday to stick a fork in him after one race-especially considering the track. it may well turn out the distance got him beat-or maybe it was the turf. he's worth another chance imo.

That is what I was insinuating with the post above yours.

this makes absolutely no sense. exactly what type of logic do you use to decide that one horse has an excusable effort, while another does not? if goldikova is worthy of benefit of the doubt, i would expect the same could be said about gio ponti.

darn rain....