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1 114 Big River 2 56.0 James McDonald (a) Mark Walker, Matamata 2 133 Everlasting 15 56.0 Jason Waddell Frank Ritchie, Cambridge 3 1255 Sirrio 10 56.0 Mark Du Plessis Lance Noble, Matamata 4 6251 Hoofit 4 56.0 Michael Rodd Stephen McKee, Ardmore 5 841 Icepin 6 56.0 Sam Spratt Mark Walker, Matamata 6 134X0 Aladdin Prince 13 56.0 Lisa Allpress Peter Hurdle, Awapuni 7 7621 Brave Warrior 9 56.0 Hugh Bowman Kevin Hughes & Dean Wiles, Pukekohe Park 8 1 Nacho Man 8 56.0 Craig Grylls Mike & Paul Moroney, Matamata 9 12 Banchee 18 54.5 Leith Innes John Sargent, Matamata 10 7X14 Sister Havana 1 54.5 Stathi Katsidis Liam Birchley, Eagle Farm 11 51 Miss Marauder 14 54.5 Andrew Calder Matthew Eales, Awapuni 12 1 Irish Jewel 5 54.5 Opie Bosson Andrew Scott, Matamata 13 45143 My Cool Jo 11 54.5 Noel Harris Paul Belsham, Wanganui 14 412 Belles Fast (AUS) 7 54.5 Michael Walker Allan Sharrock, New Plymouth 15 235 Shekels 16 54.5 Murray & Bjorn Baker, Cambridge 16 35031 Common Goal 12 56.0 Shaune Ritchie, Cambridge 17 22 Kallisan 17 54.5 Kevin Gray, Copper Belt Lodge, Palmerston North 18 610 She's A Cougar 3 54.5 Andrew Scott, Matamata Good field, but because it's restricted to horses purchased at Karaka, I think it's missing NZ's three best 2yos at the moment - Cellarmaster, Jimmy Choux and Lion Tamer. I like Irish Jewel, Nacho Man and Banchee here. |
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Can't stand the name, love the horse. Nacho Man! :tro: |
Replays from this weekend.
Trentham, Saturday... Thorndon Mile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4CRdFh16W0 Wall Street is an excellent horse. But have a look at the performance by Tell A Tale! Wellington Cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlx0L61CKYQ RR too good. :D Ellerslie, Sunday... Karaka 3yo Mile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQ_bdR-meI Joey! Never lets them past. Undefeated in 5 starts at a mile. Karaka Million: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFjJNpAaPOM :confused: Good effort by Banchee though. |
Wow I feel like such a loser but ed I was almost in tears watching the Red Ruler race!!!
Tella Tale... so proud. What a great effort! I love him. (Nice effort by Banchee too). :) Nice Joey! I didn't know who he was, I'm sorry to say. I do now! RR and Tell a Tale though... be still my heart. :D Overjoyed! |
The NZ Derby is 31 days away. :D
The big contenders at the moment are Monaco Consul, Katie Lee, Prince Of Wales, Joey Massino, and these horses in bold in Saturday's Waikato Guineas. 1 12325 Military Move 10 84 56.0 Shaune Ritchie, Cambridge 2 12116 Imabayboy 1 77 56.0 Trent Busuttin, Cambridge 3 22211 No Fear 2 75 56.0 Bruce Wallace, Takanini 4 113 Corporal Jones 12 74 56.0 Michael Coleman Andrew Scott, Matamata 5 21401 Smokin' Gun 11 74 56.0 Andrew Calder Craig Thornton, Cambridge 6 74441 Spirit Of Unicorn 3 74 56.0 Richard Yuill, Pukekohe Park 7 1418 Tanha Strike (AUS) 9 74 56.0 Bruce Wallace, Takanini 8 1135 Celtic Fantasy (AUS) 7 72 56.0 Sam Spratt Craig Ritchie, Pukekohe Park 9 312 Maciano (AUS) 8 70 56.0 Leith Innes John Sargent, Matamata 10 32713 Tullamore 6 69 56.0 David Haworth & Matt Dixon, Foxton 11 X4421 Bone Of Contention 5 68 56.0 Tony Pike & Mark Donoghue, Cambridge 12 9577 Hezapearla 4 54 56.0 Trudy Thornton Don Walker, Pukekohe Park 13 21821 Zarzuela 14 80 54.5 James McDonald (a) Mark Walker, Matamata 14 31X96 Jungle Juice 13 73 54.5 Troy Harris Donna, Dean Logan & Chris Gibbs, Ruakaka |
Is it me or are there a ton of really nice runners this year?
No love for Imabayboy? He's no Monaco Counsel but I kinda like him. |
Yeah it's a really nice bunch this year. :) You just worry a bit about Katie Lee and Joey Massino handling the distance. I hope they do.
Imabayboy's doing really well in lower grades, but has failed in his 3 stakes starts so far. He's improving all the time though and will change my opinion of him if he runs well this Saturday. |
How tough a field is this ed? I've honestly heard of or seen a total of 4 of these horses so I'm pretty clueless.
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Have to say there isn't that much stakes form in the race. The only stakes winners are the two fillies, Zarzuela and Jungle Juice. But Military Move was 2nd in the 2000 Guineas and Wellington Guineas, and Celtic Fantasy was 3rd in the Avondale Guineas.
No Fear, Corporal Jones and Maciano have just looked awesome at lower levels. They all have strong stamina pedigrees and just look so good. Maciano is Redoute's Choice - Popsy. Popsy was the last filly to win the Derby, in 1995. He cost $1.5 million as a yearling, and that's already looking like good value! |
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I'm seeing a pattern... NZ Derby winners: 2001: Leica Guv 2003: Cut The Cake 2005: No race (they moved it from December to March) 2007: Redoute's Dancer 2009: Coniston Bluebird I don't rate any of these horses as worthy Derby winners. None of them did much after winning this race (too early to say that for CB, but I don't have high hopes). 2000: Hail 2002: St Reims 2004: Xcellent 2006: Wahid 2008: C'est La Guerre All really good horses. 2010 should be good. :tro: http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...t=27642&page=3 |
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Can't wait to actually see it! Thanks in advance for the replay. |
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Zarzuela was so good today. She looked half asleep walking around out the back before the race, and I thought she was too far back half way through it, but then she went WHOOOSH! Replay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMqU75285M |
Oh wow that was impressive!
Whooosh indeed! :tro: What a nice girl. :) |
Confused ed... Nom du Jeu has been "secured" for stud duty. Does that mean he's now retired or just that he will be?
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Yes, he's retired. He'll be at Fairdale Stud next season. It's weird how long they took to decide which stud he'd go to.
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Order of entry for the NZ Derby at the moment:
1 Monaco Consul 2 Katie Lee 3 Joey Massino 4 Military Move 5 Zarzuela 6 Martial Art 7 King Raedwald 8 Time Keeper 9 Jungle Juice 10 Smokin' Gun 11 Corporal Jones 12 Ballybit 13 Sirani 14 Celtic Fantasy 15 Handsome Zulu 16 Imabayboy 17 Kilkenny 18 Walk Away And these ones need to win more money, fast! 19 Amazing Spy 20 Kullu 21 Maciano 22 The Suleiman 23 Roman Gladiator 24 No Emotion 25 Volgus 26 Promenade 27 Hezapearla 28 Hiace 29 The Beaut Starting next week, I'll do some profiles and stuff for the Derby contenders. :) |
When is the Derby, ed?
Is Tell a Tale running tonight (tomorrow)? |
The Derby is March 6.
Tell A Tale ran today, and ran very well. :) Replays: G2 Fillies Classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw8Pob1BIHg (KATIE! :)) G1 International: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpbZptRFPKU G1 Waikato Sprint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn7McCj37dY |
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Honestly I a. didn't know Kaie was running again and b. haven't watched it cause I'm not sure if poor Translated, if it shows... I'm just thinking I'll pass on watching that one. I never stop being thrilled for katie though. |
Poor Translated. :( I didn't want anyone to have to see that, so I cut that part out and the replay just has the last bit of the race. It's worth watching - Katie does her little tail swishes again.
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Awww thanks ed cause I really did want to see it (the end of it anyway).
That tail. :D She is brilliant! Poor Translated. That's a shame. |
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Haha! March 6. :) Same day as the Derby - Katie Lee's great, but I don't think she can win both!
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Our first Derby contender...
MONACO CONSUL  3 c High Chaparral - Argante 8 starts - 3 wins, 1 second Trainers: Mike & Paul Moroney Major wins: G1 VRC Derby, G1 Spring Champion Stakes Odds: 4-1 Replays: Best: VRC Derby (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw-VQPJW8hM Last Start: International Stakes (7th): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpbZptRFPKU + Amazing in October/November + Distance will be no problem + Trainers have won the Derby twice in the last 10 years (Cut The Cake & Xcellent) - 10th and 7th in last two starts. But some have said that 7th in the International wasn't as bad as it sounds - watch the replay and see what you think! - Stable's not in great form at the moment Verdict: If he shows up on Derby day in the form he was in four months ago, he's a huge winning chance. But he's looked like a different horse in his last two races, and time is running out for the stable to turn things around and get him back to his best. If they can do that, he's a serious contender. But I'd have him at about 12-1 at the moment. |
Oh cool ed... I was hoping you'd be doing this again this year. :)
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Miss Lee...
KATIE LEE .jpg) 3 f Pins - Miss Jessie Jay 15 starts - 7 wins, 5 seconds, 2 thirds Trainers: Graeme & Debbie Rogerson Major wins: G1 New Zealand 2000 Guineas, G1 New Zealand 1000 Guineas, G2 Eight Carat Classic, G2 Sir Tristram Fillies Classic, G3 Eclipse Stakes Odds: 9-1 Replays: Best: New Zealand 2000 Guineas (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Hyvcnk1EI Last start: Sir Tristram Fillies Classic (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw8Pob1BIHg + Simply awesome + Best horse in NZ + Amazing competitiveness and will to win - when she sees another horse gaining on her, her tail swishes and she tries even harder. - Distance: pedigree suggests she might not handle it. Verdict: The best horse in the race. The only question is the distance, and a lack of stamina in her pedigree might be what stops her from winning. But her ability will take her a long way, and you won't see her give up in the last few strides. The crowd will go crazy if she can do it. :) I think her 9-1 odds are about right. |
JOEY MASSINO
 3 c O'Reilly - Rationable 14 starts - 5 wins, 3 seconds Trainer: Peter McKay Major wins: G2 Avondale Guineas, G3 Wellington Stakes Odds: 20-1 Replays: Best, last start: Karaka Mile (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQ_bdR-meI + Tough front-runner who hates letting horses pass him in the stretch + Four-time stakes winner. - Failed in his only start beyond a mile, so big questions about the distance. Verdict: One of the bravest and most determined little horses in NZ at the moment. He obviously hates losing, and will give everything he's got on Derby day. The big problem is the 2400m. But I think 20-1 is too high. I'd have him at 11-1 or 12-1. |
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ZARZUELA
 3 f Zabeel - Star Satire 7 starts - 3 wins, 2 seconds Trainer: Mark Walker Major wins: G2 Great Northern Guineas, G3 Waikato Guineas Odds: 2-1 Replays: Best: Great Northern Guineas (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDufBBwx5Ig Last start: Waikato Guineas (1st): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJMqU75285M + Hugely talented filly getting better as race distances increase + Breeding says she'll love the distance - by Zabeel, sire of 3 Derby winners. - Mark Walker is the best trainer in NZ, but hasn't won a Derby - She's never had a horse fight back when she makes her move. Can she handle it? Verdict: Deserves to be the favourite after her impressive wins in the Great Northern Guineas and Waikato Guineas. But she's inexperienced, and the Derby is going to be unlike anything she's faced before, while some others in the race have had G1 experience before. I think 3-1 or 4-1 would be better. |
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It's very exciting. I'm really starting to think she can run well in the Derby. Would be so amazing if she did.
These (and Monaco Consul) are the horses she's likely to face in the Derby. This is the field for the Championship Stakes tomorrow, which is the last big Derby prep. 1 11511 Joey Massino 5 86 56.0 Sam Spratt Peter McKay, Matamata 2 23254 Military Move 13 84 56.0 Noel Harris Shaune Ritchie, Cambridge 3 1132 Corporal Jones 2 78 56.0 Michael Coleman Andrew Scott, Matamata 4 11462 Martial Art 16 78 56.0 Vinnie Colgan Mark Walker, Matamata 5 14171 King Raedwald (AUS) 9 77 56.0 Hayden Tinsley Kevin Gray, Copper Belt Lodge, Palmerston North 6 21165 Imabayboy 17 76 56.0 Scratching Trent Busuttin, Cambridge 7 53313 Time Keeper 6 76 56.0 Andrew Calder Graeme Nicholson & Paul Allbon, Te Aroha 8 15901 Amazing Spy 8 70 56.0 Michelle Wenn Chris McNab, Cambridge 9 01273 Kullu (AUS) 4 70 56.0 Craig Grylls Stephen McKee, Ardmore 10 3129 Maciano (AUS) 7 70 56.0 Chad Ormsby John Sargent, Matamata 11 73431 The Suleiman 10 69 56.0 Matthew Cameron Robert Priscott & Clayton Chipperfield, Te Awamutu 12 44217 Bone Of Contention 14 68 56.0 Cameron Lammas Tony Pike & Mark Donoghue, Cambridge 13 18211 Zarzuela 1 85 54.5 James McDonald (a) Mark Walker, Matamata 14 1X963 Jungle Juice 12 74 54.5 Troy Harris Donna, Dean Logan & Chris Gibbs, Ruakaka 15 9311 Sirani (AUS) 15 74 54.5 Mark Du Plessis John Sargent, Matamata 16 43190 No Emotion 11 67 56.0 John Sargent, Matamata Zarzuela is going to be hard to beat here, but I also really like Joey Massino, Corporal Jones, Maciano and King Raedwald. Should be a good race. Imabayboy, Kilkenny and Walk Away are some Derby hopefuls running in undercard races. |
Wow that is some field!
Confused about Bayboy... is he cross entered? (Last line of your post incase this makes no sense!):D |
Yes, he was scratched from the Championship Stakes. He won the other race very easily! :)
Zarzuela won the Championship Stakes. Corporal Jones second, King Raedwald third. Joey Massino didn't get the distance. I'll post the replay soon. Daffodil and Boundless also won races today. :D |
Championship Stakes replay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI
It was another good performance by Zarzuela, and today she proved she can still win when another horse resists her big late move, but I'm starting to think she could be a bit vulnerable in the Derby. She found it much harder to beat these guys today over 2100m, compared with her easy 2000m win last time, and I'm not convinced about her with another 300m in the Derby. I still think she deserves to be the favourite, but I'm not sure the result's a foregone conclusion. Corporal Jones is getting better with every race, and look at the way King Raedwald finished off this race. Last year's Derby winner ran 3rd in this race - it might be the same again. And there's Katie Lee, Monaco Consul and Imabayboy as well! And Volgus (half-brother to Rios and Roman Emperor), who ran nicely in another race today and might just sneak into the Derby field. |
Thanks for the replay and for all the news.
How was the field for Bayboys race? Did he beat anyone really good? Wow katie... a win machine! |
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Updated Derby odds: $101.00 Amazing Spy $21.00 Ballybit $41.00 Celtic Fantasy $6.00 Corporal Jones $16.00 Handsome Zulu $151.00 Hiace $31.00 Imabayboy $41.00 Joey Massino $61.00 Jungle Juice $10.00 Katie Lee $101.00 Kilkenny $12.00 King Raedwald $81.00 Kullu $31.00 Maciano $61.00 Martial Art $26.00 Military Move $6.00 Monaco Consul $41.00 No Emotion $21.00 Sirani $61.00 Smokin' Gun $251.00 The Beaut $101.00 The Sulieman $31.00 Time Keeper $101.00 Volgus $51.00 Walk Away $2.20 Zarzuela |
CORPORAL JONES
 3 g Pentire - Assesarose 5 starts - 2 wins, 2 seconds, 1 third Trainer: Andrew Scott Odds: 5-1 Replays: Best, last start: Championship Stakes (2nd): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI + Never runs a bad race + Excellent in Waikato Guineas (2nd), even better in Championship Stakes (2nd) + Getting better all the time - He's running well, but Zarzuela's beating him without any excuses. Verdict: It looks like this guy might be peaking at exactly the right time. His Championship Stakes run was by far the best of his life so far, and heaps better than his good Waikato Guineas effort. A lot of people are saying he can beat Zarzuela and Katie Lee. We'll see! I think 5-1 is fair. |
KING RAEDWALD
 3 c Red Ransom - Lady Circles 7 starts, 3 wins, 1 third Trainer: Kevin Gray Odds: 11-1 Replays: Very nice win against low-class opposition Feb 7: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcbnsy_king-raedwald Last start: Championship Stakes (3rd): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_xJ_UH7rgI + Finished strongly at the end of the 2100m Championship Stakes + Trainer great at having horses at their best at exactly the right time (like Daffodil!) + Kevin Gray and jockey Hayden Tinsley were at Ellerslie to be with King Raedwald instead of at New Plymouth with Daffodil! - He was still 3 lengths back from Zarzuela and Corporal Jones. Maybe not quite at their class level yet? Verdict: This is a really nice colt, and there was a lot to like about his Championship Stakes effort. But I get the feeling he's going to be a better horse in about a year. The stable and jockey are highly confident though, and they always have to be respected. Likely to be the 'wise guy' horse. |
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