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Riot 06-12-2009 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I really don't see the point of you quoting other people to me. I watched the original.

You might try that - checking things out for yourself. Rather than depending upon other people to tell you what to think.

dellinger63 06-12-2009 02:07 AM

New Title fior the Windy City


MOST XPENSAV OLYMPIX EVVVAAAAA

Riot 06-12-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Dell is just upset that they are in danger of losing their title as most corrupt state in the nation to New York.

Here's something he may like less (or more, I don't know): Carrie Prejean is going to throw Sarah Palin out in the cold Alaskan snow as the "hot female empty-headed spokesperson" for the GOP.

Riot 06-12-2009 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I would love to know. When Bush was in office, i knew exactly what i would have done differently on some major policies.

I wouldn't have put the nation so deeply into debt, removed regulatory controls that helped set off the economic mess, alienated our allies, and lied about justifications for starting a war.

dalakhani 06-12-2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Since property values have fallen those who qualify can refianance at a percentage of what they originally signed for. ie a couple who purchased a home for $240K and paying 2000 a month mortgage can now pay 1500 a month for the same home that's worth 180K now. !

Hmmmmmm. And you have a problem with socialism?

dellinger63 06-12-2009 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I really don't see the point of you quoting other people to me. I watched the original.

You might try that - checking things out for yourself. Rather than depending upon other people to tell you what to think.

who do you want me to quote? me? Letterman or writers knew who was in attendance at the game or the joke would have been written/said. He may have not written the joke but is responsible for his show. I guess I should have said child sex instead of rape to be politically correct with the new GOP

SniperSB23 06-12-2009 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
we're holding at least a full house just haven't showed em all yet LOL

Full house is a funny term to use cause the house is the functional part of our government right now and I don't trust any of them. We have a senate that Golisano just bought and is now being battled in court, along with a Governor who has a lower approval rating than Elliott Spitzer right now. You thought you were corrupt in Illinois, we are dominating you in New York.

Riot 06-12-2009 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
who do you want me to quote? me? Letterman or writers knew who was in attendance at the game or the joke would have been written/said. He may have not written the joke but is responsible for his show. I guess I should have said child sex instead of rape to be politically correct with the new GOP

Absolutely. Which is why he went on TV last night and apologized, explaining there is no way in hell he would make a joke about child sex or rape (and in his many, many years on TV, he's never, ever done that - he's pretty mild)

When the joke was made, it was beyond obvious that the joke was about the daughter who was already made publically famous - by her own mother - for getting herself knocked up.

The Palins? Well, they know a chance to change the story and get some PR
when they see it.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
No ya see tha thing is your party does not see
his group as nuts. That is the problem.
Hatred and intolerance are
dangerous stuff
. The Unions merely try to get
their unfair share.

Its a frggn albatross around the Republican's neck.

If these so-called social conservatives could be
tossed, the party could get down to the real
credo... fiscal responsibility. This is the attraction
of the party to the middle ground. But the party
just does not get it.

This is ridiculous. The vast majority of the party does see him as a nut. There is no coverage of the regular people, just the extremists on both sides. Actually there is much more coverage of the extreme right than the extreme left, you make up your own mind on why this is.

pgardn 06-12-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
This is ridiculous. The vast majority of the party does see him as a nut. There is no coverage of the regular people, just the extremists on both sides. Actually there is much more coverage of the extreme right than the extreme left, you make up your own mind on why this is.

It is ridiculous NOW.
You have a short memory.

Are you seriously telling me the Republicans
have not courted the Christian Right in the past?
Because if you are, you dont know your own party.

gales0678 06-12-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Absolutely. Which is why he went on TV last night and apologized, explaining there is no way in hell he would make a joke about child sex or rape (and in his many, many years on TV, he's never, ever done that - he's pretty mild)

When the joke was made, it was beyond obvious that the joke was about the daughter who was already made publically famous - by her own mother - for getting herself knocked up.

The Palins? Well, they know a chance to change the story and get some PR
when they see it.


where is the joke from dAVE on joe biden's daughter with the drug problem....i mean come on chuck and i are like the energizer bunny - we're still waiting for that one

GBBob 06-12-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
where is the joke from dAVE on joe biden's daughter with the drug problem....i mean come on chuck and i are like the energizer bunny - we're still waiting for that one

One's an addiction and one's a choice...not that I'm sure Dennis Miller et al hasn't bothered to differentiate

gales0678 06-12-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
One's an addiction and one's a choice...not that I'm sure Dennis Miller et al hasn't bothered to differentiate

i beg to differ , there are some in this country that are addicted to sex , just like boose , drugs or horses

GBBob 06-12-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
i beg to differ , there are some in this country that are addicted to sex , just like boose , drugs or horses

I figured that would be challenged, although I don't think many 16 year olds are truly "addicted" to sex like it was a drug, but maybe I'm wrong.

dellinger63 06-12-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
One's an addiction and one's a choice...not that I'm sure Dennis Miller et al hasn't bothered to differentiate

Doesn't one have to 'choose' to do drugs to develop an addiction?

Antitrust32 06-12-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I figured that would be challenged, although I don't think many 16 year olds are truly "addicted" to sex like it was a drug, but maybe I'm wrong.


Just think of Socks.... I mean DrugS... as a 16 year old.

GBBob 06-12-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Just think of Socks.... I mean DrugS... as a 16 year old.

There's always the exception I guess...

I'll drop out of this conversation...my point isn't the best..I should have just said that it's ok to call the President a Muslim terrorist supporter, but not ok to make a joke about a 16 year old who got knocked up and whose mother is a member of the Right Wing, Morally correct party..my bad

Antitrust32 06-12-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
There's always the exception I guess...

I'll drop out of this conversation...my point isn't the best..I should have just said that it's ok to call the President a Muslim terrorist supporter, but not ok to make a joke about a 16 year old who got knocked up and whose mother is a member of the Right Wing, Morally correct party..my bad


I could care less about the joke and I'm positive Letterman was referring to the 18year old.... Joking about a 14 yo like that would be wrong. Palins an idiot also.

And the people who say Obama is a Muslim, or not a US citizen, and those arguments are fucl<ing ridiculous and idiotic also.

I just wanted to take the chance to make a DrugS joke.

dellinger63 06-12-2009 10:58 AM

IMO Sarah Palin is fair game. Her 14 year old daughter? Not

GBBob 06-12-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
IMO Sarah Palin is fair game. Her 14 year old daughter? Not

Well who got preggo..not the 14 but Bristol, right?..and she's 18, so...

I agree 14 yr old should be off limits, until she....NEVER MIND:eek:

dellinger63 06-12-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Full house is a funny term to use cause the house is the functional part of our government right now and I don't trust any of them. We have a senate that Golisano just bought and is now being battled in court, along with a Governor who has a lower approval rating than Elliott Spitzer right now. You thought you were corrupt in Illinois, we are dominating you in New York.

here's the cards we've shown so far in the 'battle of corrupt'

A former Governor in the Pen for selling commercial licenses one of which ended up in a truck driver's hand who in turn caused the burning deaths of a mnister's kids.

Another Governor under indictment for 'selling a senate seat' vacated by the now President.

A current US senator under investigation for purgery in relation to obtaining his seat (and he was known as Mr. Clean)

our hold cards are a congressman who may have been involved in bidding for a Senate seat and his father a former Presidential Candidate

A Mayor who has had half of his staff put away for fixing anything from snow removal to favorable zoning laws. Now the supposed front runner as Olympic's host.

A former congressman now the President's Chief of Staff who was knee deep in the Fannie May debacle.

and a host of Obama fundraisers one of who has pled guilty and is now awaiting sentencing and cooperating, who sold the Pres a lot adjoining his home at a reduced rate though admittedly OB says they were only casual friends.

You may have us beat but with the hand we're holding I'm pretty sure we'll 'call'

gales0678 06-12-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
here's the cards we've shown so far in the 'battle of corrupt'

A former Governor in the Pen for selling commercial licenses one of which ended up in a truck driver's hand who in turn caused the burning deaths of a mnister's kids.

Another Governor under indictment for 'selling a senate seat' vacated by the now President.

A current US senator under investigation for purgery in relation to obtaining his seat (and he was known as Mr. Clean)

our hold cards are a congressman who may have been involved in bidding for a Senate seat and his father a former Presidential Candidate

A Mayor who has had half of his staff put away for fixing anything from snow removal to favorable zoning laws. Now the supposed front runner as Olympic's host.

A former congressman now the President's Chief of Staff who was knee deep in the Fannie May debacle.

and a host of Obama fundraisers one of who has pled guilty and is now awaiting sentencing and cooperating, who sold the Pres a lot adjoining his home at a reduced rate though admittedly OB says they were only casual friends.

You may have us beat but with the hand we're holding I'm pretty sure we'll 'call'


did you forget to mention my favorite Dick Durbin?

Coach Pants 06-12-2009 11:50 AM

It's not like Letterman actually knew which daughter was with Mrs. Mouthbreather and Mr. Tater Salad on their trip to New York.

Obviously the writer of said joke didn't do their research. Obviously the joke was intended for Bristol since she is the one getting all of the media attention and she is the one who is a dirty slut masquerading as a supporter of abstinence.

dellinger63 06-12-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
did you forget to mention my favorite Dick Durbin?

so far he's been OK as far as I know. I did leave out the old stuff like Rostenkowski stealing stamps and the fact murder trials were once fixed in good ole Cook County and we have the distinction of being the only court to retry a man for murder after he had been found innocent since the Judge was bribed. That Judge ended up blowing his brains out.

gales0678 06-12-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
so far he's been OK as far as I know. I did leave out the old stuff like Rostenkowski stealing stamps and the fact murder trials were once fixed in good ole Cook County and we have the distinction of being the only court to retry a man for murder after he had been found innocent since the Judge was bribed. That Judge ended up blowing his brains out.

dell who fixed the election of 1960 in Ill was it Daley - gotta give us the blow by blow on that

dellinger63 06-12-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
dell who fixed the election of 1960 in Ill was it Daley - gotta give us the blow by blow on that

wow from what I've heard Daley had a slew of 'dead Democratic voters' but downstate there were the same amount of 'dead Republican voters' so it was a essentially a wash. He also tried to bring in a huge early lead for Kennedy to disuade Cal voters from going to the polls but that looks like it backfired a bit.

Old Man Daley was loved for sure and did a heck of a lot of good for the city. Unlike his son he was the cop and fireman's friend. Dealing with hoods etc. was just part being 'Da Mayor' Never was greedy for money though he loved power and was honest IMO after all he was quoted, something like "if you can't help a family member who can you help"

some other good ones

The policeman isn't there to create disorder; the policeman is there to preserve disorder.

Television and radio do a wonderful job in focusing attention on the problems of our society.

Look at our Lords disciples. One denied Him; one doubted Him; one betrayed Him. If our Lord couldn't have perfection, how are you going to have it in city government?

No poll can equal the day-to-day visits of the men and women of the Democratic Party.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
It is ridiculous NOW.
You have a short memory.

Are you seriously telling me the Republicans
have not courted the Christian Right in the past?
Because if you are, you dont know your own party.

So all Christians are nut jobs? I would tend to think that a great majority of christians would not consider themselves nuts.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Well who got preggo..not the 14 but Bristol, right?..and she's 18, so...

I agree 14 yr old should be off limits, until she....NEVER MIND:eek:

Actually everyones family should be off limits. This is the problem with these threads, they rarely actually deal with the issues but the mindless crap that is 99.8% insignificant.

Antitrust32 06-12-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
So all Christians are nut jobs? I would tend to think that a great majority of christians would not consider themselves nuts.


My friend thinks I'm nuts (well I am but thats besides the point) because I believe in evolution. She says science is basically bogus and never been proven.

Well she believe's in Adam and Eve... I asked her, you think I'm nuts!?!?! Science is bogus but fairytale land is completely true??

I always ask her what happened to the dinosaurs.. can never figure out where they fit in the Bible. Though I'm sure if they were aware of the Pri-historic ages when dino's were on the earth back when the Roman government was releasing its new best seller (the Bible), they would have figured out a way to incorporate them into the Old Testament.

My friend is fairly sane though, and I dont hold her beliefs against her... she calls it FAITH, which I respect.

pgardn 06-12-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
So all Christians are nut jobs? I would tend to think that a great majority of christians would not consider themselves nuts.

Were Jerry Falwell and his followers not major players
in the Republican party? Do you deny this...?

And there were plenty of Christians (Catholic friends
I have anyway) that despised the man and following.

Darn it...
Stop with the misquotes also. Where did I say all Christians?
You should join the press corps.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Were Jerry Falwell and his followers not major players
in the Republican party? Do you deny this...?

And there were plenty of Christians (Catholic friends
I have anyway) that despised the man and following.

Darn it...
Stop with the misquotes also. Where did I say all Christians?
You should join the press corps.

Falwell brought a large amount of votes yes. Just as the parties court prominent black, hispanic, gay, jewish, etc leaders most of whom are less than stellar individuals.

When you make sweeping statements you are not being misquoted. When you say that the GOP recruits the Christian right without qualification then it is assumed that you are including the entire demographic.

Riot 06-12-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
There's always the exception I guess...

I'll drop out of this conversation...my point isn't the best..I should have just said that it's ok to call the President a Muslim terrorist supporter, but not ok to make a joke about a 16 year old who got knocked up and whose mother is a member of the Right Wing, Morally correct party..my bad

That would be the over 18-year-old daughter whose mother famously hauled the child around in public showing her off when she was previously knocked up, said now legally adult daughter recently being on her own minor public tour preaching abstinence.

Don't worry, Palin the Disingenuous Hypocrite this morning on TV called for the public to "Rise up!" against Letterman and child rapists and woman abusers and not take crap from folks like him any more.

And, for added hysteria, you betcha, Palin managed to follow her own warped six degrees of separation and publically blamed it on Obama! :tro:

pgardn 06-12-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Falwell brought a large amount of votes yes. Just as the parties court prominent black, hispanic, gay, jewish, etc leaders most of whom are less than stellar individuals.
When you make sweeping statements you are not being misquoted. When you say that the GOP recruits the Christian right without qualification then it is assumed that you are including the entire demographic.

Most black, hispanic, gay, jewish leaders are less than stellar individuals...

ok then.

I am trying to find the prominent gay and Jewish leaders
that are scum... Mainly because I dont know who their major spokespeople are.
So you are thinking of Jessie Jackson and
Al Sharpton. Hispanic... Alberto Gonzales?

Sweeping statements...
Jerry Falwell got a heck of a lot of right wing Christians to
vote conservative. The Republican party fully embraced Falwell.

So from this you derive that I said all Christians...
ok then again.

Just say it.
I wish my party would stay away from the social issues and
stick with the economic principles.
You can do it.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Most black, hispanic, gay, jewish leaders are less than stellar individuals...

ok then.

I am trying to find the prominent gay and Jewish leaders
that are scum... Mainly because I dont know who their major spokespeople are.
So you are thinking of Jessie Jackson and
Al Sharpton. Hispanic... Alberto Gonzales?

Sweeping statements...
Jerry Falwell got a heck of a lot of right wing Christians to
vote conservative. The Republican party fully embraced Falwell.

So from this you derive that I said all Christians...
ok then again.

Just say it.
I wish my party would stay away from the social issues and
stick with the economic principles.
You can do it.

It isnt MY party. I have issues with the GOP and some of it tactics. But they are so much the lesser of two evils...

Riot 06-12-2009 02:30 PM

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My friend thinks I'm nuts (well I am but thats besides the point) because I believe in evolution. She says science is basically bogus and never been proven.
Push her out a first-floor window a few times - proves that "gravity theory" to the most ardent skeptic, every time ;)

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I always ask her what happened to the dinosaurs.. can never figure out where they fit in the Bible. Though I'm sure if they were aware of the Pri-historic ages when dino's were on the earth back when the Roman government was releasing its new best seller (the Bible), they would have figured out a way to incorporate them into the Old Testament.
Come to the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky. There, you will see that dinosaurs walked the earth together with man and prehistoric man and all other creatures on earth at once. Conundrum neatly solved.

pgardn 06-12-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It isnt MY party. I have issues with the GOP and some of it tactics. But they are so much the lesser of two evils...

ok then.

I thought you were a Republican.

Riot 06-12-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
You may have us beat but with the hand we're holding I'm pretty sure we'll 'call'

The first Mayor Daley never would have let all that get so ... messy ;)

Antitrust32 06-12-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Push her out a first-floor window a few times - proves that "gravity theory" to the most ardent skeptic, every time ;)



Come to the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky. There, you will see that dinosaurs walked the earth together with man and prehistoric man and all other creatures on earth at once. Conundrum neatly solved.



She's pregnant so I'll wait a few months to push her over :D


Now I really want to go to that museum... thats awesome. Cept I may be killed by someone when I'm in there arguing ever single thing. I cant keep my mouth shut when there is a good argument to be had... especially between evolution and creationism or whatever its called.

GBBob 06-12-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Push her out a first-floor window a few times - proves that "gravity theory" to the most ardent skeptic, every time ;)



Come to the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky. There, you will see that dinosaurs walked the earth together with man and prehistoric man and all other creatures on earth at once. Conundrum neatly solved.


oh..this is priceless...screw Disney.

http://creationmuseum.org/

Danzig 06-12-2009 02:42 PM

i saw the 'creation museum' on t.v. when it first opened. i thought it sounded hilarious.


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