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Danzig 11-05-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Easy Danzig, he isn't saying all of them, Phil is smart enough to know and understand that there are educated/smart/intelligent/keen individuals with the armed forces, he isn't saying that. I have met some REAL comedy people that have went into the armed forces, and from my high school, the top of the pile wasn't enlisting in the armed forces, the bottom was

yeah...i'm sure he didn't mean all of them. but if you want to see a woman go off the deep end, make a comment that might involve her kids!! lol

from ) to pissed in a nanosecond.

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 01:42 PM

All I know it that Obama and Frank are determined to cut the military to shreds......so go ahead and condemn the military with your faint praise......you voted for the ******

philcski 11-05-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
well, since my husband and i both had also enlisted-i'd say everyone in the military is super intelligent!!!...seriously, going by those who we knew from back then, i'd say that you get the same overall spectrum in the military as you do in any large corporation. some top notch, some above average, average, and your fucl< ups. but it's absolutely incorrect to say only those who have no alternatives join the military. matter of fact mark (my oldest) not only just about aced the asvabs, he also had to take a second test for their nuke program, and sailed thru that as well--i mean, does anyone think that a guy could go from working at mcdonalds one day to working on a nuke power plant on a carrier the next?? there is a ton of high tech equipment in the navy, the air force...all the branches really.
my youngest also is considering the navy, he wants to be a pilot. he's hoping to get into the naval academy. he scored a 28 on the ACT as a sophomore. he's certainly not an average kid.

Dannie of course you know I mean no disrespect in any way.

Being a private at Fort Drum like my dumbass buddies were and being in flight school at Annapolis or working on nukes are two VERY different things. The Naval Academy is one of the hardest schools in the country to get into for a reason.

SniperSB23 11-05-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I just cant see how anyone would believe the media ISNT biased :zz:

My Lord! Obama was made out to look like a Savior in the media and McCain was made out to look like a old fart who will drop over next week.

This just doesn't make sense to me. This isn't China where you only have one option as to where you get your news. That is biased media. This is a supply and demand economy. There were like ten TV options to watch election coverage on and thousands of internet options to get your election coverage from. If people didn't like the supposed liberal bias on a network then people would switch to another network! Ultimately supply and demand dictates what is covered and how it is covered. And this year the demand was to focus on the issues and less on the Jeremiah Wright's and Bill Ayer's that were so emphasized by the Republicans. If the demand was for more of that then the public would have switched their news source!

Danzig 11-05-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I was skating a fine line by writing that, just basing it on people *I* know that enlisted. Another question I have... do we NEED the best military in the world at this point, which we do have?

Why did he choose the Navy over college (or one of the military academies)?

do we need the best military? sure. i'd hate for us not have it and then need it. now, do we need the best military at the size it is? maybe not.
why he chose the navy-he wanted in their nuke program. also, my husband (his father of course) is an electrician, a skill he learned in the navy and has put to great use. mark was interested in that field, so he joined to be a nuclear electrician. he could go and work at any nuclear power plant in the country now. but he likes the navy (which by the way took a raw teen kid and has turned him into a man, maturation is a bonus) and has decided to make it a career.
he considered the naval academy, but like his father, wants to be hands-on, not management-which is basically what the officers corps is. he said if he chose college, he may go for electrical engineering, but since he's re-signing and wants to make it a career, i don't see it happening-unless he goes when he retires at age 38!
eric on the other hand wants to parlay becoming a pilot into being an astronaut--not easily done if you don't go into the navy or air force.

Antitrust32 11-05-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
do we need the best military? sure. i'd hate for us not have it and then need it. now, do we need the best military at the size it is? maybe not.
why he chose the navy-he wanted in their nuke program. also, my husband (his father of course) is an electrician, a skill he learned in the navy and has put to great use. mark was interested in that field, so he joined to be a nuclear electrician. he could go and work at any nuclear power plant in the country now. but he likes the navy (which by the way took a raw teen kid and has turned him into a man, maturation is a bonus) and has decided to make it a career.
he considered the naval academy, but like his father, wants to be hands-on, not management-which is basically what the officers corps is. he said if he chose college, he may go for electrical engineering, but since he's re-signing and wants to make it a career, i don't see it happening-unless he goes when he retires at age 38!
eric on the other hand wants to parlay becoming a pilot into being an astronaut--not easily done if you don't go into the navy or air force.


I'm sure you are very proud of your boys! Tell them Thank you for me please!

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
This just doesn't make sense to me. This isn't China where you only have one option as to where you get your news. That is biased media. This is a supply and demand economy. There were like ten TV options to watch election coverage on and thousands of internet options to get your election coverage from. If people didn't like the supposed liberal bias on a network then people would switch to another network! Ultimately supply and demand dictates what is covered and how it is covered. And this year the demand was to focus on the issues and less on the Jeremiah Wright's and Bill Ayer's that were so emphasized by the Republicans. If the demand was for more of that then the public would have switched their news source!

IF this were true, then why are the Libs going all out for the Fairness Doctrine to be resumed again?....because they want to silence opposing views!

Danzig 11-05-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I'm sure you are very proud of your boys! Tell them Thank you for me please!

i am proud of them, my daughter as well. she talked about going in as well, but decided to go to college-all free of charge, as she got an academic scholarship based on her ACT score, and a band scholarship as well. hell, three kids--and no student loans. hoooray!!!! since eric scored so high, if he decides on college, he'll be free as well with that score. free is good.

Mortimer 11-05-2008 01:52 PM

I am upset not at the discussion of cutting military spending,but at remarks made about high school kids who join up...and they way you say them before there is crtiticism is the way you mean them.


I get the feeling (It takes a long time ,I know) that too many people on here have a superiority complex.


Why..I'm not sure.

But I don't really feel superior to anyone. I don't feel superior to a homeless person.Why should I? There may be the smartest of all.




So if you see me a while longer it's only because I am checking a couple final pm's.


Otherwise I'm through ....use me to feel better about yourselves.

Antitrust32 11-05-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i am proud of them, my daughter as well. she talked about going in as well, but decided to go to college-all free of charge, as she got an academic scholarship based on her ACT score, and a band scholarship as well. hell, three kids--and no student loans. hoooray!!!! since eric scored so high, if he decides on college, he'll be free as well with that score. free is good.


hard work is always rewarded

SniperSB23 11-05-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
IF this were true, then why are the Libs going all out for the Fairness Doctrine to be resumed again?....because they want to silence opposing views!

Are you out of your mind? If this supposed liberal bias in the media is so real then wouldn't the Fairness Doctrine be the greatest thing for conservatives?

Danzig 11-05-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
hard work is always rewarded

i need to be careful tho about talking about them, morty might call me a stepford wife again. :D

philcski 11-05-2008 01:55 PM

I feel superior to no one, my friend.


In fact I feel pretty low right now for making it sound like I'm putting down honorable people. I think it's time I retired from the Political section as clearly I don't know what the fuc|< I'm talking about. :(

Antitrust32 11-05-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i need to be careful tho about talking about them, morty might call me a stepford wife again. :D


You can ALWAYS brag about your kids! Its a testament to the great job you did raising them!

GBBob 11-05-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Are you out of your mind? If this supposed liberal bias in the media is so real then wouldn't the Fairness Doctrine be the greatest thing for conservatives?

If it shuts down Pace Advantage, then I'm all for it

Danzig 11-05-2008 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I feel superior to no one, my friend.


In fact I feel pretty low right now for making it sound like I'm putting down honorable people. I think it's time I retired from the Political section as clearly I don't know what the fuc|< I'm talking about. :(


no, don't go....i probably jumped the gun a bit. but i do know there are people who think the military is made up of the dregs-that more than anything is what gets me going. it's a sore subject. a lot of people have given everything in service, i hate to see them put down--not saying you put them down, don't misunderstand!!

Danzig 11-05-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
You can ALWAYS brag about your kids! Its a testament to the great job you did raising them!

lol
thanks lori. we're very lucky-- sometimes i think they did well in spite of us, not because of us!! they don't exactly come with a manual.

Scav 11-05-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I feel superior to no one, my friend.


In fact I feel pretty low right now for making it sound like I'm putting down honorable people. I think it's time I retired from the Political section as clearly I don't know what the fuc|< I'm talking about. :(

I feel ya bro, if this were a verbal conversation, it would have been taking differently based on the tone, trust me....

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Are you out of your mind? If this supposed liberal bias in the media is so real then wouldn't the Fairness Doctrine be the greatest thing for conservatives?

You've heard of Air America and the other liberal programs? Libs want everybody to PAY for their nonsense on the airwaves. Conservatives support
the voices they respect. Remember Al Franken going broke...nobody would pay for the trash he put out.

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I am upset not at the discussion of cutting military spending,but at remarks made about high school kids who join up...and they way you say them before there is crtiticism is the way you mean them.


I get the feeling (It takes a long time ,I know) that too many people on here have a superiority complex.


Why..I'm not sure.

But I don't really feel superior to anyone. I don't feel superior to a homeless person.Why should I? There may be the smartest of all.




So if you see me a while longer it's only because I am checking a couple final pm's.


Otherwise I'm through ....use me to feel better about yourselves.

Morty: I'm actually shocked that you would consider leaving here. I've even gotten used to your blather....your comments in this post are touching,really!

viscount26 11-05-2008 02:10 PM

I don't know if I should say, I joined the Army out of High School, and ended up doing 21 years. Of course I was only in the Second best Military
:zz:

Danzig 11-05-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I feel ya bro, if this were a verbal conversation, it would have been taking differently based on the tone, trust me....

you're right. very hard to get the whole idea of what someone is 'saying' when you can only read it.

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
lol
thanks lori. we're very lucky-- sometimes i think they did well in spite of us, not because of us!! they don't exactly come with a manual.

We do agree on this one, however! My wife and I have been blessed with 4 kids that are courteous and gracious and look out for others as well. Not an easy thing to develop in these days. Congrats on yours, and please tell them
that THIS RWF is thankful and proud of them too.

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Dimmy, I think I can speak for almost everyone in this thread. Shut the phuck up already. You're the Hrfan of the political room. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and as amusing as it is to read your warped opinion, have some dignity and shut up already. Do you have any pride? lol

you imbecile! you can't even speak for yourself...my mailbox isn't full of mass rejection of me.......not a one has bothered to support your crap! So take a hint and you shut up...hall monitor wanna bee!

philcski 11-05-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Dimmy, I think I can speak for almost everyone in this thread. Shut the phuck up already. You're the Hrfan of the political room. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and as amusing as it is to read your warped opinion, have some dignity and shut up already. Do you have any pride? lol

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timmgirvan 11-05-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Dimmy, read the threads. You even have some of the nicer people on the board fed up with your nonsense.

The mailbox stuff is funny. Like I care what some chickensh.it, who won't say a word to me on here, but s.hit talks me behind my back thinks.

Please tell me who supports your crap. I gave DT the chance to tell me in private what they thought. 2 people were kind to send a word....but you sent me 14 replies about me(obsess much)......so it appears that your drivel hasn't spurred the onslaught that you would haved liked. You're over your head,KID! (he hates that) and you're late for your bong party!

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What are you talking about? Have you read the threads around here the last few days? weeks? months? It's like if you pretend no one disagrees with you, I guess they really aren't. Talk about denial... I'm sure there are people who don't like me. I can live with that. But for you to act like you're some liked guy is pure folly. You're a running joke. People sit around seeing what kind of idiocy you'll come up with next.

The in private stuff is beyond me. I have no idea what you are talking about, but if you're fishing for pity again, it's too late. As I said to you last time you tried to play the bitch role and beg for pity. I post what I think. I can't help what anyone else posts and I clearly don't need anyone's help making you look like a moron. In fact, most of the time you don't even need my help. You do a pretty good job of it on your own. lol

People have disagreed with me obviously, but I don't believe they share your vitriolic dislike for me. You're over the top. People can always PM me, and I'll respectfully respond to them. I won't harrass them as you did to me... sounds to me like you're the one who's distressed!

Mortimer 11-05-2008 03:58 PM

OK...so I'm sorry I hissy fitted.


I am leaving ,but not for anything that happened here today.















lol

geeker2 11-05-2008 04:03 PM

^^^ 1/3 :baby:


lol :{>:

timmgirvan 11-05-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't dislike you as a person at all. You could be a nice guy outside of this board for all I know. I just think you're an incredibly confused guy, that's stuck in the past. You have no idea what is going on in today's world. Your posts show it. i also happen to disagree with almost everything you say. Stop whining.

The harrassment stuff is amusing though. You tried it last time, and as I recall rescinded it. For the record, since you are looking for pity. I pm'd you to tell you what I thought about your ideas. You responded and we went back and forth for a little while. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were responding and insulting me too right? So I guess you were harrassing me also. Stop whining. lol

You have no idea about me...that's the thing, but on and on you go about your opinion of my posts and the rest. And I disagree with your version...so let it all be...just go your way, whatever that is...and I'll do the same. I'm sure we'll both be better off

ArlJim78 11-05-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
spending advantage = important... but where was the Republican $$ in this election? I don't see why the GOP allowed this to happen. They have access to plenty of funds, too.

media bias: not true. Simply not true. I don't know why so many people are using this as an excuse today.

Obama reneged on public financing. McCain didn't. Also Obama took money from god only knows where because they didn't even bother to check where the money was coming for. Personally I expect this funding issue to be one of his first scandals. I don't know how it can just be overlooked. however with one party rule a lot can be swept under the rug so who knows.

as far as the media bias, its not even debatable, I don't know how a fairminded person could miss it. The mask has been dropped this time resulting in outright advocacy. Its gotten so bad that even people from with the industry themselves are speaking out against it. It's not an excuse its just a fact.

Coach Pants 11-05-2008 04:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91WoyDhbqc

Mike 11-05-2008 05:02 PM

Jim, what should the media do? Do you want a free press? Then the press is free to call it as they see it, no? The choice of Palin was a disgrace, an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Only a suppressed media or a moronic media could endorse the ticket.


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