No.

Maybe one day we can add Big Brown to this list :) I hope so.

How come?

It's my understanding he was infertile. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think their are about 5 or 6 foals from GW's rather unproductive stallion efforts...

I guess there is only one filly...

A filly by the late George Washington was born at the Irish National Stud on Monday, one of what is expected to be only a handful of foals for the winner of the 2000 Guineas and the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes.

The foal is out Stefano and Loreto Luciani's Rainbow Quest mare Flawlessly, the dam of a Group Three winner in Ombre Legere and the Grade One-placed Flawly, the dam of Prix du Jockey-Club runner-up Best Name.

To add on to this, I think she sold at this last sale as a yearling......I remember reading something about her being sold somewhere

wasn't fabulous strike retired and found to be sub-fertile?

he got a couple mares in foal, but not near enough to warrant keeping him at the shed.

He's a gelding, so no. I think you're thinking of High Limit.


Good article in the Bloodhorse, for once I actually believe Iavarone:
http://bc.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=47528

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Eric

no, was thinking of another horse. thought a sprinter was retired last fall and then brought back because of lack of fertility...but i don't remember, lack of sleep probably!

Agreed. What's not to believe? Of course he's crushed.

Like him or not, Iavarone is at Belmont to see the IEAH horses run all the time ( and co-owner Paul Pompa comes to see his horses most days as well ). They just lost a once in a lifetime opportunity and had to retire a once in a lifetime horse.

I wish the horse raced in one or two of the Travers, Woodward, or JCGC, and feel they missed an opportunity. I am sorry he went out with a win in a relatively meaningless grass race at Monmouth and now we are left not knowing how he would have performed against at least the very best dirt horse racing now. However, the BC wouldn't have answered that, and frankly even if you weren't a big fan of Big Brown, we should be glad he was around to spruce up what could have been a very disappointing TC season.

Close your eyes and imagine the series without Big Brown, IEAH, or Rick Dutrow.

I am not surprised. In fact, I halfway expected as I walked into Belmont for his "Triple Crown Attempt" that one of those God-Awful feet would fly right off and seriously wound a 63 year old grandma sitting in the reserved grandstand seating near the 1 /16 pole. Obviously, BB never made it that far.

Well said.

I've never been a fan of Big Brown but man that sounds like a nasty injury. Poor horse.

From DRF



not pretty

Uh, yeah, that would have been ugly, especially as the camera would have been focused on the winner of the derby as they pulled up.

Then again, things might have played out differently.

Songster. :)

that's the one, thanks.

Ah, yes. Good call!!!

Me with Songster.. who happens to be one of those ridiculously playful and animated type horses...

The whitish stuff in the photo is "patch" and quite honestly I wouldn't be surprised if a part of what was torn off was also "patch." He had more silicone than feet.

Didnt Artax go back in training after being a stud for a season? I dont know if he raced though.

Bertrando took a shot at it.

Yep, he was a total goofball. Good times!

Horses racing after stud duty, didn't Lukas race Spain while she was pregnant? Not sure if that is a good idea normally, however I don't think she did too badly.

there've been several fillies and mares who raced while in the very early stages of pregnancy. many think it helps them to run better with the increase in hormones. there have also been mares who went back to racing when they didn't get in foal.

And if Curlin is not in it what does this mean for a "in the spotlight" or "best bet" horse for the Classic?

Awww, very sweet!

apparently he's coming. as for who the best bet is, hard to say.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...ordinary-horse

Haskin wrote a good piece on Big Brown.

It wasn't a good article by Haskin, like Big Brown it was a GREAT article. He said brilliantly all the things I was trying to say about this horse during his magical journey in 2008. He's not Secretariat, but certainly some outstanding accomplishments and I for one am glad I didn't take those for granted. Now he is retired, and this athlete will be missed.

For those who have not read it yet, I hope you will.

I just e-mailed him my Facebook friend request :)

"Nauseous?" Oh you mean when the article gets to the stuff about Casino Drive? Yeah me too :)

Seriously, what are the holes of contention you have with it? If you wouldn't mind taking the time,

Well I agree on the fluffy stuff like that but I am talking about what he detailed regarding the field Big Brown faced, his accomplishments, and take on speeds that have been a fair degree of negativity by the Big Brown detractors. I could copy and paste but you've read it and I think there are some compelling points.

You come on! You know the "eyed a pigeon on the roof" line made you teary eyed! ;)

I thought it was a good article, but I also do like Haskins' writing.

In most cases, the winner of the KY Derby beats the horses that come back to win the lesser 3YO Stakes throughout the year.

As an aside to the return to racing discussion, Frisco Star ran at 2 and 3, entered stud in 2007, was found to have poor fertility and returned to racing this year. Did poorly at sprints, stretched out to a route at PID and aired.