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dalakhani 08-29-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.

factcheck.org

on top of that read:

investments for dummies

geeker2 08-29-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...


She is the only one with Executive experience....

dalakhani 08-29-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
She is the only one with Executive experience....

Oh im not knocking her at all. Fine leaders have come with resumes both big and small. Not the point i was making.

I just think its interesting that people will actually claim that she is "experienced" enough to be on the ticket while at the same time knock a guy with a bigger resume.

Governor of Alaska for less than 2 years and mayor of a town of 6k? Come on. If she is good, she is good. But lets drop the whole experience thing.

onebadbeast 08-29-2008 11:38 AM

she makes hillary look like a beast!

jwkniska 08-29-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
factcheck.org

on top of that read:

investments for dummies


i don't go by what some internet site says on anything political... I go by what comes straight out of someone's mouth.

with regards to investments... let's see.... moved here straight out of college with basically no $$ at all (less than $2k net worth), took every extra cent that I made and invested it when was working, stopped working when was 31 and have not had to the last 7 years... I must be doing something right!

TheSpyder 08-29-2008 12:44 PM

At least he's not a boobdist. Besides anyone can see he's green.

Spyder from SC
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
There are SO many stupid people out there...


SentToStud 08-29-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
i don't go by what some internet site says on anything political... I go by what comes straight out of someone's mouth.

with regards to investments... let's see.... moved here straight out of college with basically no $$ at all (less than $2k net worth), took every extra cent that I made and invested it when was working, stopped working when was 31 and have not had to the last 7 years... I must be doing something right!

Rich daddy die at age 55?

Hard to believe since you are so wrong on the policy of Obama.

Scav 08-29-2008 01:29 PM

I saw some pictures of her when I was on lunch. She is crazy hot. MILF city. The internet will be nuts over this broad.

For the record, I already typed in "Sarah Palin Naked" into yahoo and google and I got NOTHING!!!

All I saw was her holding some sort of high powered weapon when she was in Kuwait that looked pretty hot.......

GBBob 08-29-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I saw some pictures of her when I was on lunch. She is crazy hot. MILF city. The internet will be nuts over this broad.

For the record, I already typed in "Sarah Palin Naked" into yahoo and google and I got NOTHING!!!

All I saw was her holding some sort of high powered weapon when she was in Kuwait that looked pretty hot.......


Bill Clinton wondering why he picked Al Gore

I coulda' had 8 years of that????????????????

somerfrost 08-29-2008 01:56 PM

I'll give mcCain credit for this one...never saw it coming! I will wait until after I watch the convention of course but she has a tall task when it comes to debating Biden. I like the pick from a feminist point of view, now we will make history this election no matter which party wins. I would have preferred (as I've stated many times) Condi Rice if he selected a woman...seems like a better pick on the surface. She is anti-abortion (like that as long as she's not a fanatic who wants to overturn Roe), she's NRA (can live with that) but against gay rights it appears (that's a big problem)....anyway, I'll wait to listen to her and hopefully learn a lot more about her. All in all, very interesting move!

The Indomitable DrugS 08-29-2008 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Her ability to bring in the women vote will far outweigh the cry that she is not qualified.

Yeah, she will bring in the women vote like Alan Keyes or Ken Blackwell brought in the black vote.

This is a comically bad choice by McCain - you are already starting to see Obama's betting odds drop in the betting exchange markets since this morning. He's a bigger favorite now.

I think the number of females who will be offended by such an insane selection will greatly outnumber the ones who will be moved to vote for him because of her.

I just feel bad for Joe Biden. He's actually going to have to debate her - and he will have to dumb himself down tremendously and lose his smartass ways to deal with this complete fraud.

I'm not saying she's Sumitas in a skirt - but she's pretty damn close. She needed to carry a gun all over and go on several photo-op bear and moose hunts and wear fur every chance she got so she can win an Alaskan gubernatorial race with less than half of the vote.

It would all be very funny if McCain wasn't a geezer who could go any month.

He could have taken Tom Ridge - but someone "pro-choice" wouldn't have gone over well. He could have taken Mitt Romney - but someone mormon wouldn't have gone over well. He could have taken one of a half-dozen competent females in his own party that I know of - instead he choose the phony hunting lady from Alaska who is under investigation for abuse of power.

somerfrost 08-29-2008 02:26 PM

Yikes...haven't heard any of that! I agree that it's unlikely she'll draw a lot of female voters who weren't already voting for McCain but I still like the symbolism. Was it an act of desperation? I don't know...I'll reserve my judgement on her until after the convention!

Mike 08-29-2008 02:38 PM

I've been away from home and internet for several hours, and have been able to digest this VP pick. I think most Republicans must be bewildered right now.
Will the Fox news journalists be able to put a positive face on this?

And Pat Buchanan, who this liberal still likes, I can't imagine he's happy with this.

Entering now from the right side of the stage, 3rd party candidate__________(fill in the blank, this election seems ripe)

MaTH716 08-29-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I'll give mcCain credit for this one...never saw it coming! I will wait until after I watch the convention of course but she has a tall task when it comes to debating Biden. I like the pick from a feminist point of view, now we will make history this election no matter which party wins. I would have preferred (as I've stated many times) Condi Rice if he selected a woman...seems like a better pick on the surface. She is anti-abortion (like that as long as she's not a fanatic who wants to overturn Roe), she's NRA (can live with that) but against gay rights it appears (that's a big problem)....anyway, I'll wait to listen to her and hopefully learn a lot more about her. All in all, very interesting move!

Ideally Condi would have been the pick. But he couldn't have taken the risk by taking anyone from the Bush regime. Too much negativity would have come from it.
Personally, I have not seen enough of Palin to make a decision. It does seem like they took some air out of the Obama sails with the pick. But after learning a little about Palin, my first reacation was wow, she certainly covers many segments of the voting population. Woman, Mother of a soldier and child with a disability. This comes into play. I have 2 healthy kids (thank God) and it is stressful enough worrying and taking care of them on a regular day. And I am not running for VP. Will it affect her? The children will be thrusted into the spotlight now too. I am also guessing that there will be alot of time away from the children/baby. I know how my wife was with our children, she didn't even want to leave them to go out to dinner. Esentially she is choosing a big career move here over her children and might even take some heat publically for that. It's something she might regret later on. Then there is the whole NRA, Hunting deal. She did seem to be very well spoken, also she seemed to be very genuine (maybe Hilliary should be taking notes).
Experience or lack there of, is a big issue for me personally. If for some reason she ended up in the oval office, How would she react if the $hit hit the fan? I feel the same way about Obama in this sense. That is the reason I thought Condi was a great fit. I would also feel a little better, if she came from a state with many issues (NY, CAL, TEX etc.) I am not sure what goes on in Alaska, but I can't believe that it could be that much.
I look foward to see her debate with Biden. Definatley a risky pick, because I thought he could beat Obama without any "trick plays". So if she craps the bed, this could end up cost him an election that he might have been able to win with a safe pick for VP.

jwkniska 08-29-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Rich daddy die at age 55?

Hard to believe since you are so wrong on the policy of Obama.


nope. both parents still alive. didn't get anything there, nor from anyone else.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
nope. both parents still alive. didn't get anything there, nor from anyone else.

How did you make it all?

dalakhani 08-29-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
nope. both parents still alive. didn't get anything there, nor from anyone else.

Amazing that you have accomplished so much in life and in the investment world but yet it is obvious that you still don't know the difference between a long term and short term capitol gain and the difference in how they are taxed.

You really do need to read up on Obama's policies before you make blatantly wrong statements on an internet board. If you dont want to go to factcheck.org, a bipartisan think tank, then perhaps you might just want to google it.

GPK 08-29-2008 02:48 PM

I do believe McCain assured himself of carrying Virginia with that selection.

jwkniska 08-29-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
How did you make it all?

outsmarting all the so-called experts and diversification, big time. Putting $$ in right after 9/11 was the exact right call too (everyone else panicking and selling, I get everything cheap... just like in trading places). I had basically every cent I owned invested then.

my parents never invested anything (all their money in savings or cd's so that the bank made $$ of theirs and they actually lost due to inflation over time), nor taught me anything about it either. I made more the first 12 months than they did in their life, in their bank accounts and they never made much working either, as they were both teachers. I want my $$ making more for me, not someone else.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
outsmarting all the so-called experts and diversification, big time. Putting $$ in right after 9/11 was the exact right call too (everyone else panicking and selling, I get everything cheap... just like in trading places). I had basically every cent I owned invested then.

my parents never invested anything (all their money in savings or cd's so that the bank made $$ of theirs and they actually lost due to inflation over time), nor taught me anything about it either. I made more the first 12 months than they did in their life, in their bank accounts and they never made much working either, as they were both teachers. I want my $$ making more for me, not someone else.

So, in the last 7 years, have you timed the market as spectaularly as before 9/11?

jwkniska 08-29-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
So, in the last 7 years, have you timed the market as spectaularly as before 9/11?

I'd say I've done better than a ton. Had a few years that bought on the exact year low and sold off some on the exact year high (a little luck along with being smart about things never hurt). Made more since 9/11 than from 95-00.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
I'd say I've done better than a ton. Had a few years that bought on the exact year low and sold off some on the exact year high (a little luck along with being smart about things never hurt). Made more since 9/11 than from 95-00.

Really? that is quite interesting. Where do you have your money right now?

SentToStud 08-29-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
I'd say I've done better than a ton. Had a few years that bought on the exact year low and sold off some on the exact year high (a little luck along with being smart about things never hurt). Made more since 9/11 than from 95-00.

So, why haven't you moved to Barrington Hills?

jwkniska 08-29-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Really? that is quite interesting. Where do you have your money right now?

alot of it's overseas. other is in mutual funds that are fund of funds, so own a bunch of mutual funds that in turn have approx 300 stocks, instead of one fund with 300 or so in it. diversifies it more and you make a bit less in good times, but lose alot less if you hit a bad market run.

jwkniska 08-29-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
So, why haven't you moved to Barrington Hills?

give me a couple years.....

dalakhani 08-29-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.

Okay, and you still dont know the difference between a long term gain and a short term capital gain?

Please tell me that you were just messing around with the above so that i can actually believe at least some portion of everything else that you have said.

dalakhani 08-29-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.



Or here.

just google OBAMA TAX PLAN

and then after that google LONG TERM CAPITAL GAINS TAXES

Scav 08-29-2008 03:25 PM

**** all this arguing and bickering, just tell me what you are doing so I don't have to work in two years

jwkniska 08-29-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Okay, and you still dont know the difference between a long term gain and a short term capital gain?

short term - held under a year (1040 sch D part 1)
long term - held over a year (1040 sch D part 2)

hi_im_god 08-29-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
**** all this arguing and bickering, just tell me what you are doing so I don't have to work in two years

no one needs to work on the internet. we're all smarter than the average fact checking bear.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
**** all this arguing and bickering, just tell me what you are doing so I don't have to work in two years

He is running a trade string on Rand Road. That is more likely than his cncoction of clobbering the market while invested with his "fund-of-funds" strategy.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
short term - held under a year (1040 sch D part 1)
long term - held over a year (1040 sch D part 2)

Real quick now... no peeking.... how much of a year's loss can you carry over to the next year?

Mortimer 08-29-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
outsmarting all the so-called experts and diversification, big time. Putting $$ in right after 9/11 was the exact right call too (everyone else panicking and selling, I get everything cheap... just like in trading places). I had basically every cent I owned invested then.

my parents never invested anything (all their money in savings or cd's so that the bank made $$ of theirs and they actually lost due to inflation over time), nor taught me anything about it either. I made more the first 12 months than they did in their life, in their bank accounts and they never made much working either, as they were both teachers. I want my $$ making more for me, not someone else.

Oh fucl< you.

You lying jackazz......go try to fucl<, with someone elses board and minds......like Pace Outlandish.......but you're bullsh!t story wouldn't make the top ten over there.







Did I say to go fucl< yourself?



I hopes so.






Shut up Alymeba..

Thunder Gulch 08-29-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.

40% across the board...and we think the track hold is criminal. I work hard, pay high income taxes now- have a business that provides jobs for numerous people- and in the event I have a few bucks at the end of the day to invest, somebody wants to take 40% of what I earn on that? God forbid I may one day manage to get past all of that and leave it to my family because they'll take over half of that when I die.

Mortimer 08-29-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
40% across the board...and we think the track hold is criminal. I work hard, pay high income taxes now- have a business that provides jobs for numerous people- and in the event I have a few bucks at the end of the day to invest, somebody wants to take 40% of what I earn on that? God forbid I may one day manage to get past all of that and leave it to my family because they'll take over half of that when I die.


Fucl< you,too, you self serving azzhole.










This is fun!






I'm sick of azzholes.

hi_im_god 08-29-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Oh fucl< you.

You lying jackazz......go try to fucl<, with someone elses board and minds......like Pace Outlandish.......but you're bullsh!t story wouldn't make the top ten over there.







Did I say to go fucl< yourself?



I hopes so.






Shut up Alymeba..


that's what i meant to say.


















:tro:

Mortimer 08-29-2008 04:04 PM

Anyone else who owns employees or shot the stock market and now sits on their money?

Mortimer 08-29-2008 04:04 PM

Thank you,Hi.


I'm sick of all of 'em.

Coach Pants 08-29-2008 04:06 PM

Anyone want to PM me mutual fund purchases today?

./butthurt.

Mortimer 08-29-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Anyone want to PM me mutual fund purchases today?

./butthurt.

:mad:


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