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eajinabi 10-04-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I got the point. You liked Court Vision in the VA Derby because of his connections. he ran well there, with a perfect trip. So months later, when he wins on the turf, you came back to pat yourself on the back, despite saying NOTHING about the horse in this specific race.

He's better on turf than dirt. That much is obvious. But, he still sucks and speaks to what a pathetic group of 3 year olds this is.

That makes sense.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Dude, seriously? I could go through your collection of posts and put up a dozen dumb things you've said.

It's pretty clear, to me at least. Court Vision runs better on turf than dirt and will do better if kept on turf. Still with me? But, overall he still is a shi.tty horse, IMO. This is one of the worst collection of 3 year olds ever and since he's not even in the top 10 running right now, he sucks. What doesn't make sense about that?

How is he a shitty horse??? If he runs up the track every time he races I will agree but he doesnt. He is 8 of 10 ITM and 700k in earnings with 3 races won in Graded Stakes. Not Bad. I dont think he is the greatest horse but he is not shitty, slow or other hyperboles you and the guy that shines your shoes think he is.

I will settle if you say is an overall OK horse. Dont say things that obviously makes you look like bad.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You want to argue whether he is a shitty horse or just okay? Who cares? I think he sucks. You don't. But spare me the 8 of 10 ITM and 700k crap. With purses the way they are nowadays and so many races for 3 year olds, winning 700k isn't that hard for a shitty horse to do. Your last sentence is amusing though.

LOL! If Court Vision is shittyy then I would hate to know what you call the horses that run behind him are called. I know. They are called DAHOSS9698 picks of the day!!!

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:12 PM

This is embarrassing stuff even for the internet. Court Vision won a match race today. Good for him and if you were smart enough to see the value in the exacta pool then you got 6:1 on him. Other than that, why someone would bring up a thread from months ago, and use it for today's race, when Stevie Wonder could have seen that he was only one of two contenders, is beyond me.

There are a lot of great things about this game, and one is that it is constantly evolving, and when we are wrong we often get chances to revise our thinking, and a negative opinion one day can become a successful positive opinion on another. For instance, IEAH paid $5 million for half of Court Vision. They recouped $150K of that today. Good for them....and I wish them the best of luck in the Hollywood Derby, where they can hopefully get another $300K back. Nobody that said he would never be a good dirt horse was wrong today. Why someone would even suggest that is mystifying.

ateamstupid 10-04-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
LOL! If Court Vision is shittyy then I would hate to know what you call the horses that run behind him are called. I know. They are called DAHOSS9698 picks of the day!!!

Stop trying to be funny. You're not.

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Dont say things that obviously makes you look like bad.

Now that's funny.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Anytime you want to heads up, I'm game.

My record speaks for itself.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Stop trying to be funny. You're not.



Now that's funny.


You are out of arguements.

ateamstupid 10-04-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
You are out of arguements.

Speak english, then talk to me. Apparently you don't realize that every post you make in this thread cements you more and more as a complete dumbass. So keep digging.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
My record speaks for itself.


Yes it does. And, as an example, here's the last pick you shared on this board.....



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Originally Posted by eajinabi
My pick of the day is CRITICAL in the 6th.

Working well at AQU only to be shipped to SAR today. Dutrow could easily wait for Belmont meet but seems to me this horse is fit and ready for today.
If he wins, it will cap off a decent pick 3 score for me.


He was 6th beaten a dozen lengths.

Cannon Shell 10-04-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I would imagine more for his breeding potential than anything else, though. Wasn't he originally purchased for 350 or 400k?

Unless he starts talking it doesnt matter what their intent was at $5 million, On a related topic there is an interesting article in this weeks Bloodhorse on how these racing 'hedge funds' have almost no chance to succeed in making anyone any money are almost always losers.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is embarrassing stuff even for the internet. Court Vision won a match race today. Good for him and if you were smart enough to see the value in the exacta pool then you got 6:1 on him. Other than that, why someone would bring up a thread from months ago, and use it for today's race, when Stevie Wonder could have seen that he was only one of two contenders, is beyond me.

There are a lot of great things about this game, and one is that it is constantly evolving, and when we are wrong we often get chances to revise our thinking, and a negative opinion one day can become a successful positive opinion on another. For instance, IEAH paid $5 million for half of Court Vision. They recouped $150K of that today. Good for them....and I wish them the best of luck in the Hollywood Derby, where they can hopefully get another $300K back. Nobody that said he would never be a good dirt horse was wrong today. Why someone would even suggest that is mystifying.


According to some people on this board, he is slow and shitty. He was a contender today and won but who cares if he was 5-2 or 50-1. Stevie Wonder and I agree he was one of two to win that race so its not worth toutuing the obvious before the race.

Some of these people still say he is good on turf BUT he is still shitty. It doesnt make sense

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Unless he starts talking it doesnt matter what their intent was at $5 million, On a related topic there is an interesting article in this weeks Bloodhorse on how these racing 'hedge funds' have almost no chance to succeed in making anyone any money are almost always losers.


So you're saying that's a bad place for my IRA?

Good thing for me it would now be considered a conflict of interest.

the_fat_man 10-04-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is embarrassing stuff even for the internet. Court Vision won a match race today. Good for him and if you were smart enough to see the value in the exacta pool then you got 6:1 on him. Other than that, why someone would bring up a thread from months ago, and use it for today's race, when Stevie Wonder could have seen that he was only one of two contenders, is beyond me.

I think narrowing the race down to 2 horses was obvious. Taking the next step to a one number exacta, for the 6:1 payout, wasn't, IMO. GP was coming out of a race where he ran 60+ feet MORE than the winner and lost by 1/2 length. So, for some, hitting this required a BOX. And given it was paying $8 the other way, it didn't quite make sense to get involved. As it was, my criticism of Gomez' ride on GP proved to be somewhat ironic, as, he was guided through an even worse trip today by Garcia. The difference in ability between these two horses is not large enough to allow for poor trips.

As for the idiot going on and on about a 5:2 shot AFTER the fact: what else is there to say?

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yes it does. And, as an example, here's the last pick you shared on this board.....






He was 6th beaten a dozen lengths.

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
I am picking one of the biggest longshots of the day. GLOBAL HUNTER in the Del Mar Mile.

in Argentena GLOBAL HUNTER ran his best races on Turf going one mile. There he was carrying well 126 lbs plus yet he won in fast times. He hasnt raced on turf here yet but I feel this will be his best race in USA and he gets a sneaky turf rider in Valdivia. I know this is a real tough field to beat but I believe he has to be included underneath.

THE BET:

$200 Show GLOBAL HUNTER


Shall I keep going?

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
According to some people on this board, he is slow and shitty. He was a contender today and won but who cares if he was 5-2 or 50-1. Stevie Wonder and I agree he was one of two to win that race so its not worth toutuing the obvious before the race.

Some of these people still say he is good on turf BUT he is still shitty. It doesnt make sense


It's all relative. If you paid $5 Million for half of him would you say today's performance justified your purchase?

People are wrong here, and in horse racing, much more often than they are right. Does that mean they should constantly be called out for it? What are your great positive contributions to this board that makes it OK for you to have started this mess today? Should others dog every post you make that turns out to be a mediocre opinion? Would that be fair?

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Shall I keep going?

Your example of a good opinion is an internet show bet????

I think it is you, my friend, that are continuing to wield the shovel.

GPK 10-04-2008 06:39 PM

Oh My God

Cannon Shell 10-04-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So you're saying that's a bad place for my IRA?

Good thing for me it would now be considered a conflict of interest.

It is a good place if you are in on the management fees or % of purses, bad if you are the one paying for all of it. Of course a good attorney may be needed at some point so saving the earnings under the mattressmay be a wise choice.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I think narrowing the race down to 2 horses was obvious. Taking the next step to a one number exacta, for the 6:1 payout, wasn't, IMO. GP was coming out of a race where he ran 60+ feet MORE than the winner and lost by 1/2 length. So, for some, hitting this required a BOX. And given it was paying $8 the other way, it didn't quite make sense to get involved. As it was, my criticism of Gomez' ride on GP proved to be somewhat ironic, as, he was guided through an even worse trip today by Garcia. The difference in ability between these two horses is not large enough to allow for poor trips.

As for the idiot going on and on about a 5:2 shot AFTER the fact: what else is there to say?


Gio Ponti was best last time....against terrible horses. Considering the margin in Virginia, the odds were ridiculous, and I said as much on TV today.

I made a token bet on the race because it was the right thing to do considering the exacta prices. I bet 3 times as much on the winning number figuring the worst I rated to do was break even. It hardly covered the rest of my day....though if I played the 3rd a little more cleverly it would have been a great day.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Oh My God


I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I think narrowing the race down to 2 horses was obvious. Taking the next step to a one number exacta, for the 6:1 payout, wasn't, IMO. GP was coming out of a race where he ran 60+ feet MORE than the winner and lost by 1/2 length. So, for some, hitting this required a BOX. And given it was paying $8 the other way, it didn't quite make sense to get involved. As it was, my criticism of Gomez' ride on GP proved to be somewhat ironic, as, he was guided through an even worse trip today by Garcia. The difference in ability between these two horses is not large enough to allow for poor trips.

As for the idiot going on and on about a 5:2 shot AFTER the fact: what else is there to say?

Was there any point to say anything before the race if it was obvious?

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Was there any point to say anything before the race if it was obvious?


It certainly was if you were going to carry on with your current BS after the race.

Danzig 10-04-2008 06:45 PM

yes, then you wouldn't be thought of as a red boarder after. or someone who didn't put their money where there mouth is...

paisjpq 10-04-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "

what he said

GPK 10-04-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "


yeah...at least that.

A f*cking show bet...:zz: :zz:

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
yes, then you wouldn't be thought of as a red boarder after. or someone who didn't put their money where there mouth is...



Did I say I even bet? Who wants to red board a 5-2 shot???

I only posted it to prove a point to Ateam who consistently says court vision is slow. If you care to read the whole thread then you will see his remarks prior to the Virginia Derby.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Did I say I even bet? Who wants to red board a 5-2 shot???

I only posted it to prove a point to Ateam who consistently says court vision is slow. If you care to read the whole thread then you will see his remarks prior to the Virginia Derby.


" Constantly???? "

Dude, you dug a thread up from three months ago. I suggest you get a dictionary.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
yeah...at least that.

A f*cking show bet...:zz: :zz:

$600 profit on that bet is good enough for me. I am sorry if it isnt to your standards.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
30-1 - $200 show bet with $600 profit is good enough for me. I am sorry if it isnt to your standards.


Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?

the_fat_man 10-04-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Gio Ponti was best last time....against terrible horses. Considering the margin in Virginia, the odds were ridiculous, and I said as much on TV today.

I made a token bet on the race because it was the right thing to do considering the exacta prices. I bet 3 times as much on the winning number figuring the worst I rated to do was break even. It hardly covered the rest of my day....though if I played the 3rd a little more cleverly it would have been a great day.

GP was best again today. CV got a better trip and won (as is often the case in this ****in game). CV is better than the horses GP faced last out and, to his credit, he was able to hold off GP. If the trips are reversed, however, he gets trounced. I can see taking a shot when the odds are right but not for $8 and $14 numbers. By your comments, I get the sense that you feel GP and CV are evenly matched.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
GP was best again today. CV got a better trip and won (as is often the case in this ****in game). CV is better than the horses GP faced last out and, to his credit, he was able to hold off GP. If the trips are reversed, however, he gets trounced. I can see taking a shot when the odds are right but not for $8 and $14 numbers. By your comments, I get the sense that you feel GP and CV are evenly matched.

I agree with all your thoughts on the race. I did not think they were evenly matched but I did think the margin was considerably closer than the odds.

I like Gio Ponti, but even with his trip at Del Mar, I was less than thrilled with his performance. I also thought Court Vision might have more upside. But, I surely thought Gio Ponti was a more likely winner, and think so even more after the race.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?

I know $600 isnt much and i am nowhere near the expert handicappers you guys are. If and only if I can pick the gems you guys consistently post here at 4-5 digit payoffs. School me please.

freddymo 10-04-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I agree with all your thoughts on the race. I did not think they were evenly matched but I did think the margin was considerably closer than the odds.

I like Gio Ponti, but even with his trip at Del Mar, I was less than thrilled with his performance. I also thought Court Vision might have more upside. But, I surely thought Gio Ponti was a more likely winner, and think so even more after the race.

Me Too

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
I know $600 isnt much and i am nowhere near the expert handicappers you guys are. If and only if I can pick the gems you guys consistently post here at 4-5 digit payoffs. School me please.


So, let me get this straight, after your shenanigans in this thread, you are now trying to play the victim?

You must have read the Trolling Message Boards handbook.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So, let me get this straight, after your shenanigans in this thread, you are now trying to play the victim?

You must have read the Trolling Message Boards handbook.

Well, If you make fun of my grammer, picks, and practicaly anything I write
here then what else should I say?

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
" Constantly???? "

Dude, you dug a thread up from three months ago. I suggest you get a dictionary.

you are out of arguements. Childish

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?

You are out of arguements. Childish


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