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geeker2 05-30-2008 12:38 PM
Attachment 773

Morty...please come get some...........

Mortimer 05-30-2008 12:39 PM
ror!!!



WHAT A MESS!

Mortimer 05-30-2008 01:07 PM
Smart Thread 90%ers...


...next time you want to mess my hair--------send a blow dryer and not a comb.










OK?

Rupert Pupkin 05-30-2008 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by horseofcourse
I wish someone could explain this logic to me. If he was running a race an hour after the Preakness, I can see how this may be bad. But is it really meaningful in a race THREE weeks later that running .20 slower will make you win the race in THREE weeks? I mean running 9.5f fast is tough on a horse regardless. Is a tenth of a second slower really gonna mean the difference between winning and losing three weeks later?? It must be true because all the experts agree...but how is it true??

Personally if I run 2 miles today 2 seconds faster than normal...in 24 hours I will feel exactly the same regardless. How is it so much different than a horse that 3 weeks later, running 9.5 furlongs 0.2 seconds slower makes so much physiological difference??
First of all, we're not talking about 1/10th of a second. One length is about 1/5th of a second. So if a horse wins by 10 lengths instead of 5 lengths, we are talking about a full second. Under one scenario, the horse is all out. Under the other scenario, the horse is not even close to being all out. It makes a huge difference.

By the way, I saw Smarty Jones train between the Preakness and the Belmont and he didn't look like the same horse. In his morning gallops before the Derby and the Preakness, he couldn't have looked any sharper. He had his neck arched and ears pricked and he looked unbelievable. He didn't look the same way after the Preakness. That race knocked him out.

Mortimer 05-30-2008 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
First of all, we're not talking about 1/10th of a second. One length is about 1/5th of a second. So if a horse wins by 10 lengths instead of 5 lengths, we are talking about a full second. Under one scenario, the horse is all out. Under the other scenario, the horse is not even close to being all out. It makes a huge difference.

By the way, I saw Smarty Jones train between the Preakness and the Belmont and he didn't look like the same horse. In his morning gallops before the Derby and the Preakness, he couldn't have looked any sharper. He had his neck arched and ears pricked and he looked unbelievable. He didn't look the same way after the Preakness. That race knocked him out.

PUMPKIN!!!


You BOOB!






I have no affinity for Jones...but he didn't exactly get beat by 31 lengths.



Stop trying to predict the outcome of events that have already happened with your clocker like habits and observations.

Mortimer 05-30-2008 01:43 PM
Steve;



I would love to take you up on you offer....you know...the smart offer only smart posters get and not the TwiceVaporized ones.






The truth is...I'm getting a lot of flak about this from Andy.

I have only been on his show ......briefly---but still....and no other ones.

So he advertises as being the only public handicapper to have a direct funnel to me and that I have appeared on his show, although briefly---but still,and no others.






And so...I feel kind of an allegiance there.

I hope you understand....but to you I must say no.





I do wish you and the Tataglias the best of luck .

geeker2 05-30-2008 01:52 PM
Attachment 775


What is love..baby don't hurt me baby don't hurt me anymore

Mortimer 05-30-2008 01:58 PM
Are you requesting a date and time for the Vaporization Chamber...sir?

geeker2 05-30-2008 02:02 PM
only if I have to read one more Big Browny threat...then please end it for me...please

Mortimer 05-30-2008 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by geeker2
only if I have to read one more Big Browny threat...then please end it for me...please

Oh geez.....a 4 year old girl could predict Wig,Bown wins against this latest collection of caurosel horseys brought to life by magic dust.

For those who want to rage on about how great he is....well let them do it.


Just don't let you get caught up in the latest TardyJones frenzy.

horseofcourse 05-30-2008 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
First of all, we're not talking about 1/10th of a second. One length is about 1/5th of a second. So if a horse wins by 10 lengths instead of 5 lengths, we are talking about a full second. Under one scenario, the horse is all out. Under the other scenario, the horse is not even close to being all out. It makes a huge difference.

By the way, I saw Smarty Jones train between the Preakness and the Belmont and he didn't look like the same horse. In his morning gallops before the Derby and the Preakness, he couldn't have looked any sharper. He had his neck arched and ears pricked and he looked unbelievable. He didn't look the same way after the Preakness. That race knocked him out.
Why does it make a huge difference?? Again, you haven't answered my question. You are making incredible inferences...I would tend to think running big races on the Derby Trail, then big races in the Derby and Preakness wore him out rather than just running the Preakness one second faster than he should have. It is the culmination of MANY races that tires the horse out...not running one second too fast in one particular race. So you're honestly telling me running 9.5 f in 1:56 doesn't make a horse tired but running it in 1:55 does?? I don't buy that and never will.

Mortimer 05-30-2008 03:01 PM
HOC...SJ was second by 8 lengths...he got beat by 1 length...Birdstone..number 4.



My best guess, AFTER the fact, is he got beat by a better horsey that particular day.

I ddin't recognize the ZC that day---wish I had...others did.




But Pumpkin is trying to be a NewYorkSharpie here.


Believe me---he isn't.

Kasept 05-30-2008 04:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
Steve;



I would love to take you up on you offer....you know...the smart offer only smart posters get and not the TwiceVaporized ones.






The truth is...I'm getting a lot of flak about this from Andy.

I have only been on his show ......briefly---but still....and no other ones.

So he advertises as being the only public handicapper to have a direct funnel to me and that I have appeared on his show, although briefly---but still,and no others.






And so...I feel kind of an allegiance there.

I hope you understand....but to you I must say no.





I do wish you and the Tataglias the best of luck .
Tataglia's a pimp... He could never have outcapped Andyno.. But I didn't know until today that it was Hossini all along...

Mortimer 05-30-2008 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
How about THE DUDE with Australian racing handicapping angles?
Well..Mr. Excitement.








Sorry I missed this one.













:rolleyes:

Mortimer 05-30-2008 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Tataglia's a pimp... He could never have outcapped Andyno.. But I didn't know until today that it was Hossini all along...

!!






You know...it figures it would have been Hossini and not Fat BentMahPuda.

Hossini was always smart.

Kasept 05-30-2008 04:38 PM


"Hello Carlo.."

Mortimer 05-30-2008 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept


"Hello Carlo.."


!!!!OOOOOOOOOO!!!!

SentToStud 05-30-2008 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
HOC...SJ was second by 8 lengths...he got beat by 1 length...Birdstone..number 4.



My best guess, AFTER the fact, is he got beat by a better horsey that particular day.

I ddin't recognize the ZC that day---wish I had...others did.




But Pumpkin is trying to be a NewYorkSharpie here.


Believe me---he isn't.
Pretty weak all around effort by you today.

I'lll give you another chance in a month or so.

Good night, Harold.

dalakhani 05-30-2008 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept


"Hello Carlo.."
Barzini is dead. So is Phillip Tatagllia. Moe green. Slacci. Cuneo. Today I settled all family business so dont tell me that you are innocent. Admit what you did.

Mortimer 05-30-2008 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalakhani
Barzini is dead. So is Phillip Tatagllia. Moe green. Slacci. Cuneo. Today I settled all family business so dont tell me that you are innocent. Admit what you did.
And so the dumb azz did.

It was quite obvious the GoldenBoy wasn't for sure Carlo was in on it...so he acted like he did; pretending he wasn't sure who had approached Carlo about it.


What a dumb actor.

geeker2 05-30-2008 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalakhani
Barzini is dead. So is Phillip Tatagllia. Moe green. Slacci. Cuneo. Today I settled all family business so dont tell me that you are innocent. Admit what you did.

Attachment 776

The devil made me do it......

Mortimer 05-30-2008 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SentToStud
Pretty weak all around effort by you today.

I'lll give you another chance in a month or so.

Good night, Harold.

You know...there's nothing like a fried,breaded pork chop still claiming to be a key component of the living swine.

It's like Iraq asking the USA in Desert Storm if we've had enough.




The thing about the vaporized is....
















They're everywhere.

































We see them all the time.








































They don't know that they're vaporized.

SentToStud 05-30-2008 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
You know...you're right.
That's right. Until next time when, hopefully, you'll invite your filthy hillbilly friend along. And bring Sammy too..... dead or alive. Ok?

Mortimer 05-30-2008 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SentToStud
That's right. Until next time when, hopefully, you'll invite your filthy hillbilly friend along. And bring Sammy too..... dead or alive. Ok?


Have you had any inquiries regarding your SPACE FOR RENT SIGN on your head?

notyep59 05-30-2008 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Have you had any inquiries regarding your SPACE FOR RENT SIGN on your head?
that was funny right there....please don't use it on me!

fpsoxfan 05-30-2008 05:30 PM
Fine work Morty and good call by Steve to move this thread into Morty territory. Morty responded like a champion.

Mortimer 05-30-2008 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Please shut up.

Oh gosh...I missed this.




Golly.



I'm going to die.





fr&l-a!!

Mortimer 05-30-2008 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
Fine work Morty and good call by Steve to move this thread into Morty territory. Morty responded like a champion.
Thank you so much.

I was thinking about mailing it in as ah don't feel sa hot, but realizing others may be sick from reading some of this stuff......well I stopped feeling sorry for myself.

Coach Pants 05-30-2008 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SentToStud
That's right. Until next time when, hopefully, you'll invite your filthy hillbilly friend along. And bring Sammy too..... dead or alive. Ok?
:rolleyes:












Mortimer 05-30-2008 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants
:rolleyes:















excellent!!



You said it sssso well.

Mortimer 05-31-2008 09:34 AM
This is a Nerdy Trail announcement regarding the red letter day experienced here ...yesterday....relevant to the Smart Threads Association

It shall forever be known as......



















..The Day That Mortimer Socked It To...





..The Nerdy Trail STA.

Mortimer 05-31-2008 09:40 AM
I'm sending BMP a Do-It-Yourself Autopsy Kit....same one I sent Dimmy.


Hopefully he'll have better luck with it.

Mortimer 05-31-2008 09:43 AM
It will keep him in stitches.












HA!

Mortimer 05-31-2008 12:33 PM
=:>=:tro:

Kasept 05-31-2008 12:41 PM
Hmmm? Pretty neat, eh Morton? Hmmm?


:wf for those that will give up to your Predatory Superiority...

:{>: for those special moments with all your behooved beauties...

:zz: for those too dizzy to comprehend...




What time do you leave for Thistley Downs??? It's getting late! Don't you present the :tro: to the Oh-ho-ho Derby winner???

Mortimer 05-31-2008 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Hmmm? Pretty neet, eh Morton? Hmmm?


:wf for those that will give up to your Predatory Superiority...

:{>: for those special moments with all your behooved beauties...

:zz: for those too dizzy to comprehend...




What time do you leave for Thistley Downs??? It's getting late! Don't you present the :tro: to the Oh-ho-ho Derby winner???
978


These are swell...Steve!!








I normally do meet the winner to adorn him with a wreath of Thistley's......but I'm on with Andy today.







Just between you and me.....he doesn't know it.

Kasept 05-31-2008 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
I normally do meet the winner to adorn him with a wreath of Thistley's......but I'm on with Andy today.




Just between you and me.....he doesn't know it.

I won't tell him... ;) Don't want to ruin the surprise...









He :{>: surprises...

Mortimer 05-31-2008 01:56 PM
rule-eng en leff-eng!!

Mortimer 05-31-2008 03:02 PM
Steve...how about a woody emoticon?

Mortimer 05-31-2008 03:14 PM
Is he kidding me with this statement.

Why would ya say that?


This is a guy who has ganged up on top horses himself.

Hmmm..well---tell me what else he was asked. If you know.

Dutrow was also asked if he was concerned that other riders in the Belmont would “gang up” on Big Brown. He was reminded that some people accused riders of doing that to Smarty Jones when he was defeated by Birdstone in the 2004 Belmont Stakes.

I'll be darned.

“I don’t believe anyone would do something like that,” he said. “If they did, they might get assassinated after the race. I can’t imagine they would do that.

Listen....wait until he really kills someone before calling for his suspension....and don't ever make it look like I said something Don'trow said again----OK?



I think you should consider darting this thread before it gets out of hand.

Besides looking like a dope.....you will attract the usual suspects---know what I'm sayin' here?


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