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philcski 02-26-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
regurgitating someone else's thoughts doesn't exactly make you right either...I'm done here, talking to you is like trying to reason with one-suit.

oh, snap

another P.O.T.Y entry

GBBob 02-26-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Okay. I'm trying to help you out here and you go Little Miss can't be wrong on me. Let's get something straight. YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. First, if a horse goes for $20-40k at a 2YO in training... you're wrong, he generally can't run. Second, I don't need a lecture on how much to save for this venture, I had done the math prior to the investment, and I was trying to put some color on how much it REALLY costs. Finally, if you could tell SOOOOOOO much about a 2YO in training, why did the most expensive 2YO in training purchase JUST RETIRE AS A TRULY TERRIBLE MAIDEN!!!!!



Another solid entry for P.O.T.Y... thank you Andy for some sanity with this

It's actually an interesting conversation to have, and there are several on this board that I would like to hear their opinions on concerning Yearlings vs 2 Years IT, etc..but today doesn't seem to be the right day for this.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Okay. I'm trying to help you out here and you go Little Miss can't be wrong on me. Let's get something straight. YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. First, if a horse goes for $20-40k at a 2YO in training... you're wrong, he generally can't run. Second, I don't need a lecture on how much to save for this venture, I had done the math prior to the investment, and I was trying to put some color on how much it REALLY costs. Finally, if you could tell SOOOOOOO much about a 2YO in training, why did the most expensive 2YO in training purchase JUST RETIRE AS A TRULY TERRIBLE MAIDEN!!!!!



Another solid entry for P.O.T.Y... thank you Andy for some sanity with this

I don't know anything.

There are quite a few horses in this price range from OBS April sales that went on to be good racehorses, and at least earned back their purchase price or better.

I didn't think that the Green Monkey's workout was great. I couldn't understand the hype. He crossfired all the way down the stretch in his workout. Big no-no.

SniperSB23 02-26-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I don't know anything.

There are quite a few horses in this price range from OBS April sales that went on to be good racehorses, and at least earned back their purchase price or better.

I didn't think that the Green Monkey's workout was great. I couldn't understand the hype. He crossfired all the way down the stretch in his workout. Big no-no.

And there were far more that didn't. Have we really come to redboarding sales results?

Bigsmc 02-26-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Why am I annoying?

As I am catching up with this thread, I come across this beachball sitting on a tee and couldn't wait to see who would knock it out of the park.

Pais 6-5
BTW 8-5
Pillow 2-1
Phil 3-1
GBBob 5-1

Much to my dismay, I got to the end of the thread and this little gem was left untouched.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
you could have fooled me....your self-deprecation is about as real as Pam Anderson's breasts.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nar...652/DSECTION=2

Nah, I just don't know what I have said, and no one is going to answer me.

What have I ever said that makes me so great?

paisjpq 02-26-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
As I am catching up with this thread, I come across this beachball sitting on a tee and couldn't wait to see who would knock it out of the park.

Pais 6-5
BTW 8-5
Pillow 2-1
Phil 3-1
GBBob 5-1

Much to my dismay, I got to the end of the thread and this little gem was left untouched.

LOL my key baord would burst in to flames...

Bigsmc 02-26-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

What have I ever said that makes me so great?

Oh God, this won't stop.

This thread easily gets my vote for Thread of the Year.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
And there were far more that didn't. Have we really come to redboarding sales results?

Not redboarding. I have been following one under 40,000 from last year's OBS April sale before she entered her first race. I just don't post my sales lists because I have been told not to.

You can look up a post from last year about the best first crop sires at the sales last year before there babies started racing if you think that I am redboarding.

SniperSB23 02-26-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Not redboarding. I have been following one under 40,000 from last year's OBS April sale before she entered her first race. I just don't post my sales lists because I have been told not to.

You can look up a post from last year about the best first crop sires at the sales last year before there babies started racing if you think that I am redboarding.

Glad to know we are basing this on a sample size of 1. Here I was getting worried it wouldn't be statistically significant.

Indian Charlie 02-26-2008 01:26 PM

the half to war pass RNA'd

miraja2 02-26-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Am I the only one tired of reading posts about kentuckyrosesinmay?
I know most of the posts about kentuckyrosesinmay were written by kentuckyrosesinmay, and that is pretty annoying, but I for one would appreciate it if everyone (especially kentuckyrosesinmay) would stop writing about kentuckyrosesinmay.

I'll try again.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
the half to war pass RNA'd

Yup.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Glad to know we are basing this on a sample size of 1. Here I was getting worried it wouldn't be statistically significant.

There are a lot more than that. The point is, you have to be able to find them. I'm not going to pull out the names.

Indian Charlie 02-26-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yup.

that's more than a little surprising, considering the sire on this one.

any idea what the reserve was?

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
that's more than a little surprising, considering the sire on this one.

any idea what the reserve was?

Yeah, but I really don't like to repeat stuff that I'm not sure is public info. I'm sorry.

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
that's more than a little surprising, considering the sire on this one.

any idea what the reserve was?

more than $1.5MM

Indian Charlie 02-26-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
more than $1.5MM

you are clever.

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
you are clever.

just having fun...if you had him, what would you set the reserve at?

Sightseek 02-26-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I don't know anything.

There are quite a few horses in this price range from OBS April sales that went on to be good racehorses, and at least earned back their purchase price or better.

I didn't think that the Green Monkey's workout was great. I couldn't understand the hype. He crossfired all the way down the stretch in his workout. Big no-no.

Any idea when you will get around to analyzing the action of the Derby contenders this year vs. their two year old in training works?

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
the half to war pass RNA'd

There are actually quite a few that are RNAing, if that is proper.

Does the number seem unusually high? At one point in the 50's (Hip #'s) 6 of 7 RNA'd. 36 out of 119 to this point.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
There are actually quite a few that are RNAing, if that is proper.

Does the number seem unusually high? At one point in the 50's (Hip #'s) 6 of 7 RNA'd. 36 out of 119 to this point.

They will often RNA if the x-rays in the repository show something significant. Quite a few horses RNA at most sales.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
They will often RNA if the x-rays in the repository show something significant. Quite a few horses RNA at most sales.


Oversimplification should not be confused with either knowledge or cleverness. But hey, thanks for trying, and I doubt you need to be asked to keep playing the game.

paisjpq 02-26-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
There are actually quite a few that are RNAing, if that is proper.

Does the number seem unusually high? At one point in the 50's (Hip #'s) 6 of 7 RNA'd. 36 out of 119 to this point.


in last year's sale...301 horses were cataloged, only 209 made it to the auction block, of those 40% RNA'd. The year before 32% RNA'd. 2YO sales have so many outs before the sale even begins that I fail to see their appeal.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Oversimplification should not be confused with either knowledge or cleverness. But hey, thanks for trying, and I doubt you need to be asked to keep playing the game.

Well, then answer the question with a more appropriate response instead of telling me how wrong that I am.

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
in last year's sale...301 horses were cataloged, only 209 made it to the auction block, of those 40% RNA'd. The year before 32% RNA'd. 2YO sales have so many outs before the sale even begins that I fail to see their appeal.

thanks...that number of RNA to Hip #'s didn't include the outs...there were 34 of those

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Well, then answer the question with a more appropriate response instead of telling me how wrong that I am.


Diarrhea of the mouth does not imply knowledge, only a need to babble, and if I feel I have something to add on an issue, that isn't self-evident and/or obvious, I will do so.

paisjpq 02-26-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
thanks...that number of RNA to Hip #'s didn't include the outs...there were too many of those to count

the one horse that I was interested in was an out....he was a VERY nice yearling by Mr. Greeley.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-26-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
regurgitating someone else's thoughts doesn't exactly make you right either...I'm done here, talking to you is like trying to reason with one-suit.

wow..that says alot!!!

philcski 02-26-2008 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
They will often RNA if the x-rays in the repository show something significant. Quite a few horses RNA at most sales.

Actually you're very wrong, if the x-rays show something significant then the reserve will be much LOWER than what it hypothetically should be based on the breeding (and work, in the case of a 2YO sale).

But I didn't need to tell you that, you already knew it.

paisjpq 02-26-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Actually you're very wrong, if the x-rays show something significant then the reserve will be much LOWER than what it hypothetically should be based on the breeding (and work, in the case of a 2YO sale).

But I didn't need to tell you that, you already knew it.

well said.

freddymo 02-26-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Of course. But it's a lot tougher than you're making it out to be. Another person in this thread and myself own a couple two year olds we bought as yearlings, trained by yet another person in this thread. They were very modest prices, relative to what you COULD spend at the KEE Sept sales (about $20k each). By the time they hit the track, we will be $80k deep on these guys, which means even with statebred incentives (which, of course, was part of the "where do you spend" GBBob is referring to) we have maybe a 15% chance of recouping our investment.



Exactly


Now where do I sign :o


You don't buy horses to make money you buy race horses because you have made money

paisjpq 02-26-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You don't buy horses to make money you buy race horses because you have made money


it's scary when you make sense Freddy.

philcski 02-26-2008 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You don't buy horses to make money you buy race horses because you have made money

Best (and most accurate) line I've heard all day...

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Actually you're very wrong, if the x-rays show something significant then the reserve will be much LOWER than what it hypothetically should be based on the breeding (and work, in the case of a 2YO sale).

But I didn't need to tell you that, you already knew it.

Even if the reserve is lowered, some still RNA because of the x-rays. I'm only speaking for the two-year-old sales.

freddymo 02-26-2008 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
you could have fooled me....your self-deprecation is about as real as Pam Anderson's breasts.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nar...652/DSECTION=2

Why do you have to bring a goddess into this lunacy?

paisjpq 02-26-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Why do you have to bring goddess into this lunacy?

sorry should have said Jan Rushton's....

freddymo 02-26-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
it's scary when you make sense Freddy.


I can be on target when necessary.. This young lady thinks that she can read tea leaves or predict a dice roll.. People who have real knowledge pull their fn hair out trying to figure out why a Happy Ticket(La) can run faster then Phipps filly. But she all of a sudden can spot a winner from 1 furlong work. whatever.

Honestly DrugS is the only person I have come across that does the due diligence to give a morse of credence to and he is in love with a sox. So how smart can he really be.

freddymo 02-26-2008 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
sorry should have said Jan Rushton's....


Jan might have gone a tad overboard


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