Really ... are you unaware of what has always happened when communists take over a country?

I'd call them Israelis.

LOL I WAS JUST THERE, I closely follow the Philippines because I am a Filipino, and im interested in how things will pan out there.

What specifics have I failed to address?

Heck yes I make sweeping generalizations. One has to in a world that contains over 6 billion INDIVIDUALS. And I challenge people with the generalizations for two reasons: It gives me insight into how they think. And I can learn more with a little bit of a provacative nature.

You can put me on your ignore list. Politically we are probably more alike than you realize. I just realize that I cannot possibly get all sides of a story. If you have a phoneline to God, can I have it? I dont automatically blow other's ideas off. Rather I prod and challenge. It may seem like I do. But I take every post into consideration.

Bogey men and bigots...? you must mean lots of people that dont realize they have predjudicial beliefs and have no concept of what it means to try to be empathetic. Again, empathy, a peculiar human trait that you might want to try on occasion.

You need not respond if I confuse you.
1. I agreed with you on Israel.
I dont think Palestinians are stupid. (This thread)
2. Then I read your reasoning and it is absolutely astounding. (the basis of the side threads) The tangent threads arise all the time on the internet. Branching of ideas takes place. I dont have a problem with it.

Simplification complete.

And i actually OWN a company that invests in the phillipines and have done years of research and go there about every other quarter. I would bet my info is a little bit more fresh.

Ummm ... yeah ... sure ... now that you put it that way ... I can see precisely what you mean ... you made it crystal clear.

Are you aware of what has ALMOST always happened when the US intervenes? Are you aware of why US credibility worldwide is at close to NIL?

Now ... now ... now ... you can't fool me ... I noticed that you didn't answer my question.

The smokescreen didn't work.

now...now...now...you are the master of the smokescreen...

You didnt answer my question.

Exactly what I thought. What specifically have I failed to address? NO answer.

No critical analysis available.
Does not understand the word empathy, and how this leads to human understanding. Not trained in any sort of analytical way. Facts are friends, but please dont try to understand further than that.

The earth is round. Why? It dont matter it just is. Stay in the shallow end of the pool. Its safer.

Old guy stuck. He has fallen and he cant get up. Gonna have to remind the wife to shoot me when and if I reach this stage. Have splendid uneventful evening.

Master? You are too kind.

The bold one just flat out does not answer questions. No smoke involved.

No .... you didn't answer my question.

This is why I like C-span. They had the Syrian diplomat dealing with the Russians speaking and saying:

1. A cease-fire happen before any negotiations of substance.
2. After a cease-fire, MAYBE an exchange of prisoners can take place.
3. Israel started the aggression into Lebanon, so the exchange of prisoners will be difficult to pull off.

This is the kind of crap Israel and the US have to deal with.
Utter and complete nonsense.

Israel needs to just clear out 20 miles of Southern Lebanon, right along the Syrian border also.
Israel needs to level everything in this 20 mile region and make it a no man's land. Anything that enters this zone must be taken out by a UN enforcer Army and Airforce. If not, Israel and the US can accomplish the task.

This is just complete BS. The world refuses to deal with the real problem. Syria and Iran. Russia and China want them as a thorn. This is how I view the situation at this time.

They are now quoting many Lebanese Hezabollah government members. Nothing has changed. Spouting complete nonsense. Why is the world silent... where are our Arab neighbors??? Unbelievable nonsense. Everyone needs to hear this stuff to realize what they want... The destruction of Israel. These are pure and complete animals. No matter how they got this way, this is what the "Lebanese freedom fighters", can you believe they call themselves this, are now. Kill. Die. Thats all they know.

what business

A voice of sanity from Lebanon. From one of the leaders of the Lebanese effort to rid itself of Syrian troops:

“The losses are immeasurable,” said Nayla Moawad, the Lebanese minister for social affairs.

Ms. Moawad blamed Syria for setting off the crisis, saying that she was expressing her personal opinion. “The decision of the Hezbollah operation was not taken in Lebanon,” she said. “Lebanon was taken a hostage, a mailbox of other people’s interests. It has been taken in Damascus, probably with an Iranian coordination.”



Syria and Iran need to be "talked" to by the world in a very stern manner. They have ignited a humanitarian disaster. This brushfire is spreading. North Korea at least affords a little time. These matters need to be dealt with right now. Russia and China should step up to the plate now. If they dont, other avenues of pressure on Iran and Syria need to start NOW... or we will see this crap all over again... Massive numbers of innocent people left without homes or water because terrorist roaches live in their neighborhood. This is an opportunity to rid a small region of terrorists. This is not on the magnitude of what has happened in Africa because of ethnic hatred. But by the time this ends shame and blame on Iran and Syria.
Gaza will now provide the example. Israel is planning a clean sweep. Any citizens with ammunition stored or rockets are asked to get rid of them now.

And now to Gaza:

The Qassam Brigades is the Palestinians’ largest and best organized militant group but it is not the only militia operating in the area under Palestinian control. At least six other armed groups field soldiers to fight Israel or, when there are no Israelis to fight — as was the case for nine months after Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza last year — to fight among themselves.



This is what the Israelis face everyday.

And it's high time to permanently remove some of those faces.

It's too bad that Israel will probably roll right through the Hezbollah cowards ... and easily establish a buffer zone.

If Israel had a tougher time ... they may have had to give more serious thought to going to the source of the terror ... in Syria ... and blast the bejeezis out of Junior The Optometrist and his motley crew.

Maybe next time, Junior.

I stand by my original thoughts...this will never end until Iran and Syria are dealt with...I pray that it can somehow be done non-violently but every logical, common-sense related bone in my body says the only thing that will settle this is to destroy them....please, let me be wrong!

It's not going to happen. I'd actually like to see Hezbollah marginalized. We'll see, thigh there's no sign of it happening. In the end the Israelis will deal prisoners. Last time they released OVER 400 prisoners to get one back. I hope they've developed the backbone not to cave as usual, but damn, why do the Israelis ALWAYS back down?

S2S,
Here's an article that might give insight.
The question...
Is the continuing insanity only creating more "terrorists"?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0722-29.htm

My heart breaks for the murder of innocents, the children, the aged.
Short term, they are being destroyed.
Long term, they'll remember.

Ideas don't die. Only fools believe so.
Do present Israeli actions and US support of same make us safer?


I expect the fools to respond positively.

Back in the 60's, I had a poster in my room that said, "War is unhealthy for all living things"! It was a pretty well known poster. Of course, that's why war is hell...(even though I don't believe in such). No denying that innocent folks ALWAYS die! I'm not saying that I want to see war, I'm just saying that the nation of Israel has a right to exist and it's people have a right to defend themselves. How do we stop the circle of violence as long as Syria and Iran feed it? If there is a peaceful way, please find it! Otherwise, which will ultimately save more lives...allowing the status quo to continue with Israel and the terrorists mounting a constant body count, or going to the root of the problem and confronting Iran and Syria? If there is no other way then lets end it now! Maybe if the world united and told these two terrorist states, "stop now or we will stop you!" they would listen without bloodshed...that is where folks efforts should be spent rather than blaming Israel for defending itself imo!

I can only give you an answer that my Dad, a decorated WWII officer and "wise man" said to me. His words:

"Wars aren't settled on battlefields. That's where people go to die for their beliefs. They are settled when the ones that put them there sit down at a table."

My thought..."Talk first, listen twice."

Very true! The problem is that the old men with the power aren't dying on the battlefield and neither are their sons so words such as "honor" and things such as religious BS have more importance to them than the cost in human life!

Well said SF.
Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God."

And He also said..."Let those that have ears hear."
Your words speak to that.

I dug this thread up so I could post today's current events.
Poodle Blair is in DC meeting with Dubbya, Condi is on her "peace mission"..again....setting herself up to run against Gulianni.
Israel has decided to not allow a three day truce for humanitarian aid as per UN recommendation. And the Arab world is very pissed off (rightly so).
God help us!
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0729-27.htm

Nobody listens, they just do what they want. I don't need Jesus telling me this either. If their is a God I doubt he/she/whatever would want people to kill each other.

True.
One I remember reading went like this (without qualification).

"Thou shall not kill."

[quote=dalakhani]there are freedom fighters...people like those who founded this country for instance. funny thing tho about washington et al...they didn't blow up people in bus stops, cafes and the like...why, they actually fought against an army. not civilians... there were no suicide bombers. no hiding out in neighborhoods while they lobbed cannonballs. nope, fought out of forts. now that's a freedom fighter.
then there are people like gandhi and martin luther king jr. got what they wanted peacefully.
anyone who doesn't know what a terrorist is...well, i'm speechless if you can't tell the difference.

[quote=Danzig188]Different time, different place and the analogy just doesnt fit in any way shape or form.

Was Ho Chi Minh a terrorist?

Bold Ruler,
While agree with much of what you say, it might be time to take a drive up the Jersey side of the Hudson to Tappan. Just take 9W north.
The site is now called the '76 House...good food there btw.
Anyway, the tree is gone but the historic marker remains.
It's where a man named John Andre was hanged after he obtained secrets to support the British cause.
I'll just say that war brings out the worst in human nature, not the best.
Whether it happened "yesterday" or "today", it's the same story, again and again.
One man's "terrorist" is another one's "freedom fighter".
The victors get to label their judgement and write the text books.
Peace!
DTS

You are probably right. Even George Washington was viewed as a terrorist.

I think Benjamin Franklin said it best "There never was a good war or a bad peace."

Thanks for the Ben F quote. I'll remember it.
And I really meant it about the 76 house...a beautiful drive along the Hudson with a nice meal. West Point isn't too far from there.
I think you'd like it.