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Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, milkshakes were legal until the 1990's, and if you go back a few decades, heroin, amphetamines, caffeine, etc. was legal, too.
I dont believe Heroin or amphetimines were ever considered legal. Detection of them was spotty in years past. One of the reason that the sport never had to deal with this problem back in the golden age was that little could be detected. Many of the stars of the 70's raced on far more than hay, oats and water.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-13-2007 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Many of the stars of the 70's raced on far more than hay, oats and water.
And raced, and raced, and raced, and raced.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
I am not so sure about that, they have broken attendence records again this year.

It is obviously completely different from baseball because one has gambling involved as its primary source of income.

Horse racing needs to find its niche, like minor league hockey. The Wolves here in Chicago(actually Rosemont) sell out constantly and are a good team, they are marketed perfectly. I think we just got a field hockey team also that is seeing some good attendence numbers.
I would tend to think that Horseracing could find better role models than minor or major league hockey.

Have you actually attended the pro field hockey?

Riot 11-13-2007 10:28 PM
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I have heard many opinions with facts as to why they do it, the who lactic acid reason just does not hold water to me based on the medical opinions I have heard....Some may use it for that reason but I believe masking drugs was the prevalent reason amongst bigger barns.
I believe you are thinking of the diuretic Lasix, not baking soda.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
I have heard many opinions with facts as to why they do it, the who lactic acid reason just does not hold water to me based on the medical opinions I have heard....Some may use it for that reason but I believe masking drugs was the prevalent reason amongst bigger barns.
I'm not sure where you get your medical opinions but if baking soda and confectionary sugar can mask drugs then we can make a whole lot of money helping people pass drug tests. Hell we can make millions selling to PVal and a few baseball players alone.

By the way this is 2007, we are testing at the picogram level and the 'masking' of drugs is no longer really valid in almost all cases.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
And raced, and raced, and raced, and raced.
So would you on sublimaze and other assorted substances.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
I believe you are thinking of the diuretic Lasix, not baking soda.
Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either

trifecta124 11-13-2007 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm not sure where you get your medical opinions but if baking soda and confectionary sugar can mask drugs then we can make a whole lot of money helping people pass drug tests. Hell we can make millions selling to PVal and a few baseball players alone.

By the way this is 2007, we are testing at the picogram level and the 'masking' of drugs is no longer really valid in almost all cases.
Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:31 PM
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Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.
Well maybe the authorities can help me out with a $100 pick 6 ticket at Hollywood. I promise to give the money back if any of my winners comes up with a positive.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-13-2007 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
So would you on sublimaze and other assorted substances.
Cool.

Bring back sublimaze and other assorted substances if that's what it takes.

Does it actually make horses sounder?

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Cool.

Bring back sublimaze and other assorted substances if that's what it takes.

Does it actually make horses sounder?
Until it wears off

Scav 11-13-2007 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I would tend to think that Horseracing could find better role models than minor or major league hockey.

Have you actually attended the pro field hockey?
No, but I have gone to a Wolves game and sat on the glass for $25, I have never been to a hockey game nor do I think hockey is fun, but friends and I needed something to do so we went and it was a great time.

Pro field hockey is getting major marketing time on the radio around here. I think they are called the Shamrocks.

herkhorse 11-13-2007 10:40 PM
do they wear bikinis?

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
No, but I have gone to a Wolves game and sat on the glass for $25, I have never been to a hockey game nor do I think hockey is fun, but friends and I needed something to do so we went and it was a great time.

Pro field hockey is getting major marketing time on the radio around here. I think they are called the Shamrocks.
Hockey in person is great.

What kind of uniforms do the shamrocks wear?

blackthroatedwind 11-13-2007 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by trifecta124
Haven't you realized by now that many of the people who post on here are authorities on everything.

And some on nothing.

Riot 11-13-2007 10:41 PM
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I dont believe Heroin or amphetimines were ever considered legal.
Yes, you're right, not "legal" on the track (although the only way to detect was a veterinarian suspecting use via the horse acting high) but "legal" as in readily available by prescription to the public (I think until about 1915 or so).

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, you're right, not "legal" on the track (although the only way to detect was a veterinarian suspecting use via the horse acting high) but "legal" as in readily available by prescription to the public (I think until about 1915 or so).
Everything before 1920 is just a blurrrrrrrrrrr

Riot 11-13-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either
Agreed.

Scav 11-13-2007 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hockey in person is great.

What kind of uniforms do the shamrocks wear?
http://www.chicagoshamrox.com/circa2006/index.html

Scav 11-13-2007 10:47 PM
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I might have to start going now.

Attachment 595

BillW 11-13-2007 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Lasix doesnt help mask drugs either
dihydrogen monoxide? :D

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:53 PM
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dihydrogen monoxide? :D
Viagra?

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
I might have to start going now.

Attachment 595
It is a lacross team not field hockey you ******.

herkhorse 11-13-2007 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It is a lacross team not field hockey you ******.
Yeah, but that dance team trial might be worth seeing

Scav 11-13-2007 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It is a lacross team not field hockey you ******.
:) LOL, have zero knowledge of either, I have watched Lacrosse for like 15 total seconds on FSN before, pretty hilarious sport that involves pads and alot of high sticking and cracking people.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Yeah, but that dance team trial might be worth seeing
This is true

Riot 11-13-2007 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BillW
dihydrogen monoxide? :D
You have to be careful with that stuff! www.DHMO.org

Riot 11-13-2007 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Everything before 1920 is just a blurrrrrrrrrrr
Surely you remember Rudy Vallee's first concert?

Riot 11-13-2007 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Viagra?
Popular in racing greyhounds among a certain set ...

BillW 11-13-2007 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
You have to be careful with that stuff! www.DHMO.org
'bout time someone stood up and did something about it! :p

Riot 11-13-2007 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BillW
'bout time someone stood up and did something about it! :p
Seriously, chemical used to slow racehorses.

BillW 11-13-2007 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Seriously, chemical used to slow racehorses.
Great site - thanks for the laugh.

ELA 11-13-2007 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
No, but I have gone to a Wolves game and sat on the glass for $25, I have never been to a hockey game nor do I think hockey is fun, but friends and I needed something to do so we went and it was a great time.

Pro field hockey is getting major marketing time on the radio around here. I think they are called the Shamrocks.
So, you had a great time -- just out of curiosity curiousity -- would you go to another game?

Eric

Scav 11-13-2007 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ELA
So, you had a great time -- just out of curiosity curiousity -- would you go to another game?

Eric
Not to watch hockey but to chill with friend and bust balls and for a change in scenery, yes.

Cannon Shell 11-13-2007 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Not to watch hockey but to chill with friend and bust balls and for a change in scenery, yes.
Was there a fight?

paisjpq 11-13-2007 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, you're right, not "legal" on the track (although the only way to detect was a veterinarian suspecting use via the horse acting high) but "legal" as in readily available by prescription to the public (I think until about 1915 or so).

1924 actually....when somone finally realized that it wasn't a great way to cure morphine addiction (which is how it was originally marketed, as a non-addictive substitute)


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