And I believe this is what english teachers would call a run on "sentence."

Let me help you: Your first "sentence" is not coherent or proper.

Please Please correct your grammar and spelling before you even open up that can of worms.

Sorry, I did not have time to proofread my post. However, your sentence did not make any sense. That is on top of the fact that your whole post was wrong.

Prove me wrong please, im begging you. It is a known fact.

you can fit ten horses, but not 14 dummies? hmm, didn't know that. but maybe it depends on the size of the dummy.

Phil Phil, im disappointed in you. Number one there aren't 14 horses sprinting into a clubhouse turn at Belmont and 2 they couldn't fit a 14 horse gate in the stretch at Saratoga.

Im sure you can fit 14 ARyan's on the turf course.

You truly are a comedian. With that much wit, I am suprised you are not on the road...

(1) the gate at Saratoga is 14 horses.

(2) the same problem arises at any 1 1/8 circumference course that has hosted any event; Arlington, Hollywood, Aqueduct, etc. The run to the first turn is short in the Distaff. From a course perspective, there's two problems at Saratoga: 1, no way to run a dirt mile, and 2, juveniles would have to go a 1 1/8- which I don't think is a good thing- and the only time this was done in the BC was at Arlington and it didn't work out so well for the Juvy colts&geldings.

There's a problem with every course, Belmont has the quirky start for the 1 1/4 Classic; Churchill can't run a 1 1/4 turf race, Santa Anita will have problems with the Dirt Mile, etc.

So what your saying is that there is a problem with the "size" of the track? But I do remember them runnig miles on the dirt a Saratoga a few years back.. The same way they run the 1 1/4 at Belmont. That quirkey mid turn start.

Wow, let us watch as he tries to backdoor his way to prove he is right...

Turf to Dirt now Kgar311?

I am right. For the safety and concern of horses and Jockeys alike, there is no way in hell anyone would allow 14 horses to run on the turf course at Saratoga. But I did forget about the 1 1/16 for the juvies though. That is another reason.

No... the width of the track is not an issue as you were suggesting. However, the lack of a mile (or mile and a sixteenth) capability would be now that there's a requirement of a dirt mile.

They ran crappy claimers at a mile when i was a kid at Sar, but that was 20 years ago and I don't even think that "chute" is still there, it looked like Ellis' mile chute.

I think it was late 90s early 2000s

I think I was about 15, honestly. That's the last time I can remember.

Your right. I cant believe that it was the early 90s though. It just seemed like yesterday.

Yea and by the way, Saratoga will never hold a breeders cup beacause of the size of the track. Im still waiting for someone to prove me wrong!!! Go ahead hoss. Thats not misinformation.

A former distinctive feature of Saratoga's dirt track was the Wilson Mile chute, which branched off from the clubhouse (first) turn at a 90 degree angle. After the 1971 meeting, its use was suspended; following a brief resumption during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

From Wikipedia.

Hoss were you disputing that there ever were mile races at Saratoga????

Im trying to find the proof here on the comp. Im just not making this crap up. Ive read numerous times that the track is too small. Its common knowledge. Obviously you have none of that or sense.

A few (maybe several) (maybe 10 - 15) years back they did run a few mile dirt races at Saratoga....The inside post positions had a major major advantage..

I said I was wrong about the dates dickmunch. You acted like there was no such thing as a mile race at Saratoga.

You know nothing about horseracing. Keep placing your dollar show bets and please keep wowing us with your lack of knowledge. You have done nothing on here except tell everybody else there wrong. Dont see you throwing anyfacts up here to be disputed.

When is the last time they ran a mile on the dirt at Saratoga?


Yea that question was posed in "have they ever?" All I said was that they could accomodate a mile race. So when you pose that question it is as if they never have.

FYI, I just changed the wikipedia entry...

How's your "wiki-proof" now!

Anyone who uses wikipedia to prove a fact needs to have their head examined.

The reason they stopped running it was cause they found they couldn't adequately accomodate a mile race. Technically every track could accomodate every distance just like you technically could have a race on the inner turf at Saratoga with 400 horses in it.

did your stupid question thread get deleted hoss?

It appears so.

But it looks like you're doing your best to bring it over into this one.

hey, 2 pts for catching on!

Hey moron, dont you think if I wanted to I could of easily switched the quote to say late 90s early 2000s if I wanted too?? But im not a snake like you.

I don't know the argument, but anyone who post something off Wikipedia and tries to claim they know they are right because Wikipedia said so needs some help.

I quoted from a book of Saratoga. It proved that I was wrong not right. I said they last ran a mile race a Saratoga in the late 90s. It was the early 90s. I posted it to prove to Hoss that they did run mile races at Saratoga.

Well, Wikipedia is right here... early 90's, like I said, when I was 15.

This has officially become the dumbest argument ever.