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Cajungator26 08-25-2007 05:06 PM

It depends on the dog... :D

Mortimer 08-25-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
So you would kiss Morton potty mouth?
Can you imagine where his mouth has been...

Say....





.....this guy's gooood!















I think he's the comedy writer for Hillary Clinton.


Man ..that dog just don't hunt.

pgardn 08-25-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Say....


.....this guy's gooood!

Dont bring those loose, traveling minstrel lips anywhere close.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-25-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
But he is a great rusher you say?
Rushing td's -2
Fumbles -4

Atlanta has a short yardage specialist take the carries down by the goal line. So the rushing TD stat is decieving...most QB's score them on runs of less than one yard -- and Vick isn't a big, tall, guy like a Duante Cullpepper who is a lock to pick up a yard by taking the snap and going forward.

He's most dangerous the further away he is from the goal-line -- when the defense is most spread out.

Four fumbles is nothing for a QB who runs as often as he does.

He's the only QB in NFL history to rush for a thousand yards in a game.

He's an a-hole and was a fairly overrated player -- but he's without question the most dangerous open field runner to ever play the qb position. By far.

In my opinion, with an obvious exception to Randy Moss, he was the most talented college football player I'd ever seen, and while Va Tech lost the national title game -- he put on a show against a very tough FSU defense.

Cannon Shell 08-25-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Atlanta has a short yardage specialist take the carries down by the goal line. So the rushing TD stat is decieving...most QB's score them on runs of less than one yard -- and Vick isn't a big, tall, guy like a Duante Cullpepper who is a lock to pick up a yard by taking the snap and going forward.

He's most dangerous the further away he is from the goal-line -- when the defense is most spread out.

Four fumbles is nothing for a QB who runs as often as he does.

He's the only QB in NFL history to rush for a thousand yards in a game.

He's an a-hole and was a fairly overrated player -- but he's without question the most dangerous open field runner to ever play the qb position. By far.

In my opinion, with an obvious exception to Randy Moss, he was the most talented college football player I'd ever seen, and while Va Tech lost the national title game -- he put on a show against a very tough FSU defense.

That is 4 fumbles while running the ball, not counting the ones in the pocket. It is a lot. He may be a great openfield runner but that does not make him a good QB.

Scav 08-25-2007 09:13 PM

He sucked as a QB. He was just popular because he was thug and fast as hell in Madden.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-25-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That is 4 fumbles while running the ball, not counting the ones in the pocket. It is a lot. He may be a great openfield runner but that does not make him a good QB.

In college, that and his quick release and strong arm, made him a GREAT qb.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-25-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's the only QB in NFL history to rush for a thousand yards in a game.

I think I meant season.

Mortimer 08-25-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I think I meant season.





There just ain't no hunt in that dog.



Vick is a horrible nfl qb,though.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-25-2007 09:31 PM

He's a very bad person Mortimer - If I only had more free time I'd write to him in jail about how lovely the day is and how nice it is to have my freedom - all while hoping he is sharing a cell with a deviant who wears eye-liner like your good pal Dispencer.

Danzig 08-25-2007 09:42 PM

and now will be about 22 million poorer to boot. atlanta is on the move.

Mortimer 08-25-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He's a very bad person Mortimer - If I only had more free time I'd write to him in jail about how lovely the day is and how nice it is to have my freedom - all while hoping he is sharing a cell with a deviant who wears eye-liner like your good pal Dispencer.


Dannie answered you.







I won't tell they fellers back home.

Corina 08-27-2007 11:23 AM

Sick of Vick!!!!


He blew it, his once in a lifetime chance - Stupid

He will always do stupid things because of the people he wants to hang around with!!

Mortimer 08-27-2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Corina
Sick of Vick!!!!


He blew it, his once in a lifetime chance - Stupid

He will always do stupid things because of the people he wants to hang around with!!




CorinaFarina;


One is judged by the HO's..I mean the people with whom they are assoicated .

Cannon Shell 08-27-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
In college, that and his quick release and strong arm, made him a GREAT qb.

Turner Gill was a good college QB too.

deltagulf 08-27-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Let's see if I have this right:

He should be banned for life from the NFL for his gambling. Just like Alex Karras, Art Schlichter and Paul Hornung were. Wait, they were only suspended and let back in the following season.
________________________

Kill three teenagers with a DUI=spend a year in jail and come back to the NFL-
Reggie Rogers

Kill a woman with a DUI=spend 90 days in jail and suspended for eight games.

Kills dogs=should spend your life in prison and be banned from the NFL for life.

Yeah, that sounds like the way it should be. I'd love to see the NFL rep that would get to explain to the families of those four HUMANS killed by Reggie Rogers and Leonard Little why the value of the dogs' lives mean more than their loved one's did and the penalty should be stiffer.
_____________________

Yeah, I'm the one that doesn't get it. Dog lives are more important than human lives. Why can't I get that?


different times and new commis. with stricker rules. yea little should be out of football.

deltagulf 08-27-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It's a sad thing, but I understand why... :(


it hurts deeply i have two pit bulls who are the most lovable dogs you would want. they even play with my daughters two cats. it will be a sham if they let him play in the nfl again. cause know he is going to say what the people want to hear. myself will never believe that he means it. ben going on for 6 years and still if he would not have been caught.

Cajungator26 08-27-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
it hurts deeply i have two pit bulls who are the most lovable dogs you would want. they even play with my daughters two cats. it will be a sham if they let him play in the nfl again. cause know he is going to say what the people want to hear. myself will never believe that he means it. ben going on for 6 years and still if he would not have been caught.

I agree... I also had a pit bull. Unfortunately, if they are enabled to fight and taught to kill, you can't put them in a home. It's way too risky and dangerous. It's just sad...

ArlJim78 08-27-2007 07:24 PM

"Through this situation I've found Jesus,"

Vick actually said this today sounding like he was reading a prepared statement like in one of those hostage videos.

fpsoxfan 08-27-2007 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
"Through this situation I've found Jesus,"

Vick actually said this today sounding like he was reading a prepared statement like in one of those hostage videos.

I hope he knows that the good Lord is not into dog fighting.

fpsoxfan 08-27-2007 07:39 PM

When I was watching the news I thought I heard people cheering him, but I thought no way they must be yelling stuff at him. That's just sick. I can just hear it now. "If this had been a white football player this wouldn't be happening."

ArlJim78 08-27-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What made me the most sick today was reading reports that Vick was cheered as he entered the court by his supporters. Can someone explain cheering this man?

I am really happy he found Jesus, although I didn't know Jesus was lost. Pretty convenient finding him now. It was pretty funny to listen to an interview back in April where Vick said how much he loved dogs and how he would never harm one. What a difference a few months make.

It was also heartwarming that he apologized to the fans. What a guy.

yeah i know, real convenient finding Jesus right now. I'm sure he's been staying up late at night reading the bible.

I think a lot of that cheering is staged, fans and friends that they encourage to get out there and make noise. PR stuff.

skippy3481 08-27-2007 09:31 PM

Its really sad that people in trouble always use jesus as a crutch. Yes, some of these jailhouse confessions are real and their lives are changed, but it isent something that happens over night. Just because you accept christ doesn't make you a perfect person...

Danzig 08-27-2007 09:55 PM

no doubt in my mind that vick is terribly sorry

that he got caught
that he'll lose money
that he'll go to jail
that he won't be playing football
that he doesn't have his bad newz kennels anymore


if he had to do it again, he'd take more time in making sure he didn't get caught. maybe take his deadbeat dads advice, and don't put the house in his name. or not kick out the other guy that ratted him out first. maybe he'd even use a less flamboyant name (joe smith?) to get herpes treatments next time.

but i doubt he's sorry he had fighting dogs. he's just sorry it's all over now.

Danzig 08-27-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Its really sad that people in trouble always use jesus as a crutch. Yes, some of these jailhouse confessions are real and their lives are changed, but it isent something that happens over night. Just because you accept christ doesn't make you a perfect person...

it's just part of the whole oops, got arrested, do the following:

shave
get a hair cut
buy a suit
apologize
invoke jesus' name
throwing god in helps

Mortimer 08-27-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
it's just part of the whole oops, got arrested, do the following:

shave
get a hair cut
buy a suit
apologize
invoke jesus' name
throwing god in helps


Dannie...may I have a photograph of you?

Danzig 08-27-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Dannie...may I have a photograph of you?


i was just in that other thread with the photos and rankings. i don't think so!!

Danzig 08-27-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
This is spot on.

oh, i forgot


bring lots of cartons of cigarettes to jail

Mortimer 08-27-2007 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i was just in that other thread with the photos and rankings. i don't think so!!


ror!





That was funny.


No....I meant one you could pm me . I would never make it public or say anything about it.


Honest.


Could I have one...just one?

Cajungator26 08-27-2007 10:17 PM

Just say no, Deb! :D

pgardn 08-27-2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
yeah i know, real convenient finding Jesus right now. I'm sure he's been staying up late at night reading the bible.

I think a lot of that cheering is staged, fans and friends that they encourage to get out there and make noise. PR stuff.

I really did not think his handlers would take this approach.
Maybe he is sincere...

Cajungator26 08-27-2007 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I really did not think his handlers would take this approach.
Maybe he is sincere...

I don't think so, Pat. If he hadn't been caught, would he have still found Jesus? I doubt it...

Mortimer 08-27-2007 10:21 PM

Don't say no Dannie.

Cajunatah is is jealous...I am an honest person.


Don't believe whatever The Gardener said either...whatever it was.

Mortimer 08-28-2007 07:05 AM

Thank you Dannie.



I will keep my promise and not display them nor comment on any of them.

But I really can't thank you enough.

SuffolkGirl 08-28-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
it's just part of the whole oops, got arrested, do the following:

shave
get a hair cut
buy a suit
apologize
invoke jesus' name
throwing god in helps


Don't forget: Go to rehab

and to all of the comments about DUI and human deaths - the difference is INTENT

I hope he gets everything he so richly deserves......

Mortimer 08-28-2007 01:00 PM

Well said in the explanation SG.




I thought you were a ditz...but apparently not.

Mortimer 08-28-2007 01:04 PM

Anyone else think she was a ditz?


Anyone else fooled at all?

Mortimer 08-28-2007 01:07 PM

Oh come on..there has to be someone.


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