Cajun

If you are well read and dont abuse them they are nowhere near as bad as the general public would think. Just like anything else if you abuse it you will pay the price

i found it interesting that the wwwhatever it is issued a statement in the last couple of days saying steroids had nothing to do with it. how the hell do they know?!

In one of the articles they stated that they have been doing random drug testing and strengthened their policies in the past year or so.

Overall though, I think people are too quick to shout 'steroids' when they see someone with a well-built physique. I know lots of people that were in my gym that had a remarkable dedication to their diet and excercise and combined with their great genetics they got the results they were looking for.

You sound like someone else I know... only he was talking about cocaine.

Truth is, the majority of people DO abuse them and just because you think you aren't, it doesn't mean you're not. It's amazing what people can be convinced of.

i just find it kind of ironic that they announce it had nothing to do with it, and then stuff is all over the house.

folks will ALWAYS find a way to justify doing something they have no business doing.

the old standby being 'everybody does it'--usually spoken by a thief or someone who cheats.

Big difference between cocaine and steroids.

He passed the drug tests because he was on a prescription anabolic steroid.

Not really. Both are drugs and both are addictive.

yea cocaine makes men forget about breasts and steroids makes you grow them. Plus with steroids you can once again fit into garanimal and superman underwear.

Now this is freaky.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3327310&page=1

That's scary... he probably sent a text to someone else. They'll figure out who the IP addy belongs to, I'm sure.

That is really creepy.

I really can't imagine what it will be like for his other two kids growing up. How do you ever understand something like this?

I find it depends on the person ,some it seems to bring out violent ways others it dosnt seem to affect them mentally at all, Just like all drugs i suppose:cool:

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It's always in this room before any of the news agencies get a hold of it and start distorting facts.

ATLANTA —

The personal doctor of Chris Benoit surrendered to federal agents in Atlanta Monday as investigators probe the deaths of the professional wrestler and his family, FOX affiliate WAGA reported.

Attorney Manny Aurora said his client, Dr. Phil Astin, will speak to the media when he leaves the federal court building. Aurora described this as a meeting and there is no word yet whether Astin is under arrest.

Aurora said Astin was preparing himself in case charges are filed against him.

Federal drug agents have taken over the investigation into whether Astin improperly prescribed testosterone and other drugs to Benoit before he killed his wife and son and committed suicide last month. State prosecutors and sheriff's officials are overseeing the death investigation.

Attorney Manny Arora said he was trying to speak with federal prosecutors about their investigation of Astin.

"It looks like we'll get some results as to arrest, bail, all of those issues today," Arora told The Associated Press. "It may be today, we're not 100 percent sure."

Arora said he had not specifically been told Astin will be charged with a federal crime but he noted that investigators have conducted two raids at Astin's west Georgia office since last week.

"It's just my impression based on the preliminary parts of the investigation being done," Arora said.

A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Atlanta, Patrick Crosby, declined to say Monday whether federal prosecutors were planning any charges.

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told The AP on Monday he had no plans to file state charges in the case.

Authorities have said Benoit strangled his wife and 7-year-old son, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home.

Among other things, investigators who conducted the two raids at Astin's office were looking for Benoit's medical records to see whether he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.

Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past but has not said what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the day authorities believe Benoit killed his wife.

Meanwhile, toxicology tests on Benoit's body have not yet been completed, Ballard said.

Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids can cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as "roid rage."

Ballard said finding a motive in the case remains elusive.

"I think it will always be undetermined as to 'Why?"' Ballard said. "I think it's because there can't be any satisfactory reason why you kill a 7-year-old."

ATLANTA — The personal doctor of pro wrestler Chris Benoit was charged Monday with improperly dispensing painkillers and other drugs.

The seven-count indictment said Dr. Phil Astin dispensed drugs including Percocet, Xanax, Lorcet and Vicoprofen between April 2004 and September 2005.

The recipients were identified in the indictment by the initials O.G. and M.J. Benoit's initials were not listed.

Astin was expected to make an initial court appearance Monday afternoon.

A criminal complaint was also filed, but was under seal. A law enforcement official close to the case, who spoke on condition of anonymity before the hearing, said the case involves steroids.

Astin pleaded not guilty and was being held in lieu of $125,000 bond. He will be under house arrest once he posts bond and must surrender his medical license, U.S. Magistrate Judge Linda Walker ordered.

Astin had written prescriptions for about 1 million doses of controlled substances over the past two years, including "significant quantities" of injectable testosterone cypionate, an anabolic steroid, according to the criminal complaint.

The complaint by Drug Enforcement Administration agent Anissa Jones said the amount of prescriptions was "excessive" for a medical office with a sole practitioner in a rural area like Carrollton, about 40 miles west of Atlanta.

Excessive??? Just maybe! One million doses...I wish I had stock in the pharma company that filled those prescriptions!

i don't think the word 'excessive' explains it well enough! that really is a ton more than excessive. shame it took this to expose him.

Dr. Phil Astin prescribed a 10-month supply of anabolic steroids to Chris Benoit every three to four weeks between May 2006 and May 2007, a Drug Enforcement Administration agent said in an affidavit filed Friday and made public Monday.

With that quantity you'd think he was selling it or something too...

There are no references to Chris Benoit on the WWE website...ALL have been removed.

I doubt it SS. THey probably made bulk orders for him and a few other Wrestling Meatheads.

I've stayed out of this thread for a variety of reasons, all of which are moot now. This is a terrible tragedy -- period! Unfortunately, being that the WWE is "entertainment" and not a sport, thus it is not regulated as a sport, fall under any governing body, etc. -- there may be a very large gap where this falls into.

The tragic events here took professional wrestling to an entirely new, and disgusting, dimension. This was not a case of a superstar committing suicide, nor was it a case of of a superstar dying of a drug overdose or of heart failure as a result of steriods, painkillers, or other medication abuse. For whatever the "reason" -- and in my mind, there will never be a "reason" -- we now have a superstar dead, and more importantly a wife and mother, and a young child, also dead.

I don't know if this is something Congress can get invovled in and intervene. Allegedly, the WWE "wellness" policy has a very large loophole -- and I don't know if it's true, but allegedly, if you have a prescription for the steriods, then via the language in the policy you have a "negative" test. Perhaps that means that your test is negative for "illegal" or unauthorized steriods, but prescription steroids are "acceptable" per se. If this is true, whatever the case might be -- a massive and very drastic series of changes must occur. Laws need to be changed, oversight should be demanded, and there must be accountability. This needs to be continual and always improving.

A tragedy like this must not happen again.

Eric

Good thought,Eric!

Good rant by Ken (Mr.) Kennedy on the issue from his website:

http://www.ken-kennedy.com/

Please GOD, I'm just BEGGING for someone who has actually wrestled in a WWE ring in the past decade besides Jericho, Bret Hart, John Cena, and Ted Dibiase to come forward on one of these shows and tell the world what's really going on. For these goofs, like Lanny Poffo? Ultimate Warrior? and Marc Mero???!! to repeatedly act as "experts" and "wrestler advocates" on the current situation is like having a frustrated ex-jock who rode the pine bench throughout his high school sports career give advice to Brett Favre on how to improve his game! It's ridiculous, insane, and it really makes me sick that these so called reporters like Bill O'Reilly, Nancy Grace, and Geraldo Rivera, call upon these silly bastards who are bitter and frustrated that their careers have ended to represent the WWE which of course makes all of us look like a bunch of babbling idiots who are all addicted to steroids, drugs, alcohol, etc.

THINGS ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE FIVE OR TEN OR TWENTY YEARS AGO! Most of the "expert", frustrated ex-wrestlers that they've had on the show came from an era where everyone wrestled every day and then went out and partied like rock stars until dawn, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, smoking cigarettes and marijuana, snorting cocaine, taking fistfuls of pills, and injecting massive amounts of steroids. They would take pills to go to sleep, snort coke or take speed to get up and do this day after day after day! This would not be even remotely tolerated in today's environment. We have a strict drug policy in place. The WWE's wellness program was designed and instituted by the same doctor who implemented the NFL and the NBA's substance abuse programs. Contrary to what somebody recently said on one of these "tabloid" shows the WWE's allowed levels are exactly the same as the NFL. (Someone, I can't recall exactly who said it, said that the WWE allowed a 10:1 Testosterone to Epitestosterone level, which is false. We have a 4:1 level exactly like the NFL and the NBA.) In fact, I knew of someone who took an over the counter supplement from GNC which he didn't know was on the banned list, which caused him to have an elevated testosterone level. This individual was suspended and fined because of it. We can't even take Ephedrine which is another legal supplement that can be bought at any gas station in the country. Since I've been with the company, I've seen the few people that did have problems with drugs either sent to rehab to try and help them overcome their addictions, (sent to one of the top rehab facilities in the country and paid for in full by the WWE) or be fired for repeat offenses. Look at the list of wrestlers who have prematurely passed away over the years, and most of them made the decision to live their lives this way. That's right, I said "made the decision" because we have this cool thing in the United States of America called "freedom of choice". I have the choice to quit my job if I don't like it, or if I feel that I'm on the road too much. I have the right to choose whether or not I want to break the law and use drugs. I have the right to choose between eating healthy food and exercising regularly and eating fast-food three times a day, not going to the gym, and becoming obese like a good majority of the citizens in this country. When will individuals be held accountable for their own actions? Will it ever happen, or will we always try and point the finger at someone else? Unfortunately as much as I respect the man, Superstar Billy Graham is ultimately responsible for the health problems he suffers from right now because of the choices he made in his career. I find it both sad and humorous that the man who many say is largely responsible for starting the whole "steroid craze" in pro-wrestling is now pointing the finger at the industry rather than blaming himself.

I, like everyone else in the company, have the luxury of being able to go home almost every week, play with my dog, hang out with my girlfriend, sleep in my own bed, and eat good home cooked food. This wasn't the case with these frustrated ex-wrestlers who are trying to grasp on to FIVE more minutes of fame and recognition.

I hear some of these guys talking about how the WWE doesn't have any type of benefits. I heard Johnny Grunge's widow on Nancy Grace saying that wrestling leaves you with nothing, and that two weeks after her husband was released from WCW that they lost their cars and their home. It apparently wasn't obvious to Nancy Grace, who is reportedly an extremely intelligent person, that they were obviously living outside of their means, and they weren't doing something that my parents taught me to do when I was a little kid……SAVE MONEY. This job pays well, but I know that it won't last forever. It's the same problem with pro athletes and actors in Hollywood who spend, spend, spend, like the money grows on trees and like it's always going to be there, and then falls flat on their faces when their careers are suddenly cut short. Who's fault? The team? The studio in Hollywood? I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for people who don't save money and spend everything that they earn so they can impress everyone around them with all the NEAT THINGS that they own. As far as the having no health insurance thing goes, I've been seriously injured twice since I've been in the WWE. Every red cent has been paid for in full by the company, which is the case for any employee who is injured during a work or work-related event. Yes, I have my own supplemental insurance which is a bit expensive, but if WWE paid for it, I'm sure that, just like every other company in the country that offers health insurance to their employees, I would just be paid less, so it's a wash!

In the end, we are all responsible for our own actions. Saying that Vince McMahon is responsible for the deaths of the Benoit's is like saying that you and I are responsible for the deaths of Anna Nicole Smith and her son. The millions of people who tuned in every week to be entertained by "how funny" she was when she was all PILLED up and DRUNK, suddenly became the same people who acted SHOCKED and APALLED when she died of a drug overdose. Somebody, PLEASE, stop the insanity!!!!

KK

Hickory will not like this,Diaper.






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