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pick4 05-15-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Here's today's trivia question....without looking who was third in that Preakness?


I didn't look and I stopped looking at your thread once I saw your ?, but I hear Eric Clapton strumming his guitar as I post this. The 3rd place finisher was ex FDNY's Joe Aquillino's BADGE.

Cajungator26 05-15-2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
A few things:

Prince of Thieves debuted on November 20, 1995 @ Aqueduct at one mile and earned an 82 Beyer Speed Figure. I remember this for two reasons: I was at the greyhound track in Bridgeport, CT and watched what I thought was an anticipated debut; I immediately said afterwards, "The Derby will be Honour in Glory/ALL/Prince of Thieves." Too bad it turned out to be Grindstone/Cavonnier/Prince of Thieves.

"Badge" by Clapton, or Cream, is a GREAT song.

I really thought that Andy's chat room name was a parody of internet-speak (btw: by the way).

Who is "justindew?" I have followed this sport rather closely for a while now, and I've never heard of him.

Works for CDI.

sumitas 05-15-2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Drinking early tonight huh? Does last year ring a bell?

that and Red Bullet are exceptions...overall my statement is correct the vast majority of the time and you would do well to heed that trend this year or prepare to lose again.

Cajungator26 05-15-2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
that and Red Bullet are exceptions...overall my statement is correct the vast majority of the time and you would do well to heed that trend this year or prepare to lose again.

There have been a few that didn't run in the Derby from recent memory that hit the board in the Preakness...

Eddington hit the board finishing 3rd in 2004, Scrappy T finished 2nd in 2005, and obviously last year, Bernardini won and Hemingway's Key finished 3rd.

sumitas 05-15-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
There have been a few that didn't run in the Derby from recent memory that hit the board in the Preakness...

Eddington hit the board finishing 3rd in 2004, Scrappy T finished 2nd in 2005, and obviously last year, Bernardini won and Hemingway's Key finished 3rd.

the numbers over time will return to the trend i identified. this year only KD horses will be in the top 3.

Cajungator26 05-15-2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
I read that quickly and thought, "DEI."

That's been on my mind a lot too.

pick4 05-15-2007 10:25 PM

Do you guys really believe Hard Spun will be 7/2 or above when the gates open for the Preakness? I think those odds offer great value on a horse who ran fast early middle and late in the Derby.

Take a look at the charts of the Kentucky Derby. Hard Spun was 1st every call until the stretch. The rest were bringing up the rear for the first half except for Curlin who was 13th, after 4 furlongs. After 6 furlongs Street Sense was about to make his move but was 17th and Curlin and imawildandcrazygut was last. At the q/p Street Sense was 3rd and Curlin was 8th imawildandcrazyguy was 16th. In the stretch Hard Spun increased his lead on 18 other horses except for Street Sense.

If Street Sense encountered any traffic problems in the Derby Hard Spun would have won going away and he's an even money favorite to win the Preakness.

If Hard Spun can come back and run strong on Saturday I think he's the horse to beat. If he's 5/2 or over I think he's a strong win bet. If he regresses I think Street Sense will be the winner.

Cajungator26 05-15-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
the numbers over time will return to the trend i identified. this year only KD horses will be in the top 3.

My crystal ball tells me that one of the top 3 will be off the board.

pick4 05-15-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
A few things:

Prince of Thieves debuted on November 20, 1995 @ Aqueduct at one mile and earned an 82 Beyer Speed Figure. I remember this for two reasons: I was at the greyhound track in Bridgeport, CT and watched what I thought was an anticipated debut; I immediately said afterwards, "The Derby will be Honour in Glory/ALL/Prince of Thieves." Too bad it turned out to be Grindstone/Cavonnier/Prince of Thieves.

"Badge" by Clapton, or Cream, is a GREAT song.

I really thought that Andy's chat room name was a parody of internet-speak (btw: by the way).

Who is "justindew?" I have followed this sport rather closely for a while now, and I've never heard of him.

Badge was a Cream tune. Clapton was awesome like he always is on guitar.

sumitas 05-15-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
My crystal ball tells me that one of the top 3 will be off the board.

not this year.. the KD horses (including CQ) are clearly better than the Preakness newbies.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 10:38 PM

For those interested hit on the link for Black Throated Wind....it's the 6th song.


http://www.archive.org/details/gd94-...189.sbeok.shnf

pick4 05-15-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Definitely agree. I just don't know whether it will be Curlin or Hard Spun. I'm leaning towards throwing Hard Spun overboard.


I can understand why one could come to that conclusion. Hard Spun ran a tough race and is coming back in short order. But what makes you think Hard Spun fired his best shot in Kentucky and won't be able to run at the very least an in the money performance?

justindew 05-15-2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Who is "justindew?" I have followed this sport rather closely for a while now, and I've never heard of him.

I wrote a blog on KentuckyDerby.com this spring. At the moment, I am not employed by CDI.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
I wrote a blog on KentuckyDerby.com this spring. At the moment, I am not employed by CDI.


I assume they are mutually exclusive events?

justindew 05-15-2007 11:23 PM

What are? Writing a blog and being employed by CDI?

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
What are? Writing a blog and being employed by CDI?

It was a joke.....ya know, you came here about the blog " incident ", and now you're not working there.

I was joking that I assume they aren't related.

justindew 05-15-2007 11:29 PM

I'm a little slow sometimes.

I was contracted by CDI to write the blog through the Derby.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
I'm a little slow sometimes.

I was contracted by CDI to write the blog through the Derby.

If you hurry Byk is still taking applications for the Carolina Barbeque in Saratoga.

justindew 05-15-2007 11:39 PM

I've heard it gets really muggy up there in August. I mean, it's hot in Miami. But it's a different kind of hot.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
I've heard it gets really muggy up there in August. I mean, it's hot in Miami. But it's a different kind of hot.


I can get hot but it's a bit overblown....mostly it's pretty nice unless you get really unlucky with the rain.

You've never been there?

justindew 05-15-2007 11:44 PM

Nope. Never been to Del Mar either. Might try to do both this summer.

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Nope. Never been to Del Mar either. Might try to do both this summer.


Byk is apparently inviting all board members to stay with him so you have a free place to stay.

philcski 05-16-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew
Nope. Never been to Del Mar either. Might try to do both this summer.

I'm going to Del Mar (opening weekend) for the first time this summer.

I don't care if you have to walk to Saratoga, you have to make it there...

herkhorse 05-16-2007 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
All that really matters is that you are a dedicated follower of the group responsible for my name on name on this board.

I'll Toast to That!

slotdirt 05-16-2007 08:21 AM

I missed Saratoga last year. I don't plan to miss it this year.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-16-2007 03:02 PM

This is a very simple betting race for me.

I'm heavily playing an exacta wheel with Curlin and HS on top of Street Sense.

I'm also playing a single trifecta key HS and Curlin over HS and Curlin over Street Sense.

ArlJim78 05-16-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
This is a very simple betting race for me.

I'm heavily playing an exacta wheel with Curlin and HS on top of Street Sense.

I'm also playing a single trifecta key HS and Curlin over HS and Curlin over Street Sense.

no "new shooters"?

The Indomitable DrugS 05-16-2007 03:09 PM

No---the new shooters are all very moderate....except for maybe Flying First Class....but, I'm going out on a limb and saying he's a sprinter.


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