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Cannon Shell 04-09-2007 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Old habits are hard to kick when all the race day memory stimulation hits home in that equine head. I hope no one strokes out if she runs and goes right to the lead thinking she is going to win. This would not suprise me. Waddya think C.Simon? Really gonna try and hold her back or kinda let her decide?

I'm too heavy to ride

Cannon Shell 04-09-2007 11:40 PM

Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.

pgardn 04-09-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm too heavy to ride

Ya mean there is not gonna be a big huddle with every member on this site giving the jock instructions? ANd you gotta be quick enough to give the jock a leg up since you have decided not to ride, so I imagine you will be in the huddle.

pgardn 04-09-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.

Man I thought we got a weight break... and then the bet comes along and added weight. Damn the luck.

Cannon Shell 04-09-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Ya mean there is not gonna be a big huddle with every member on this site giving the jock instructions? ANd you gotta be quick enough to give the jock a leg up since you have decided not to ride, so I imagine you will be in the huddle.

I rarely give detailed instructions and if I do tell the jock something it is usually in the morning before the races. Not that they listen very much anyway.

Cannon Shell 04-09-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Man I thought we got a weight break... and then the bet comes along and added weight. Damn the luck.

Can you believe it?

POINTGIVEN1985 04-09-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Anyway unless PG retracts his bet on her we are going to scratch. Way too much weight carrying PG and 115 lbs.

its ok, im a good luck charm, trust me on this one, i have never had a 30-1 shot in my life and i already have one this week in Tiago, im feeling another one in Sumwonlovesyou...... just have some faith

Cannon Shell 04-09-2007 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
just have some faith

famous last words

Bigsmc 04-10-2007 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
its ok, im a good luck charm, trust me on this one

In honor of Morte'


















Thud.

Payson Dave 04-10-2007 07:37 AM

Best of luck to you all tomorrow...may she get a good clean trip and show the class of her bloodlines..

phystech 04-10-2007 09:56 AM

In addition to the excitment of the race tomorrow, I'm looking forward to watching the opening tote action to see how far from that 30-1 M/L Sumwon drops......:)

I was in a partnership about 10 years ago and it too was internet based with over 70 members from across the country. We had claimed a horse and first time out for us he ran in a race he simply didn't belong in. 25-1 M/L against a bunch of tough horses and he probably deserved 50-1.

Opening tick he dropped to 1/5. We were in the 7th race and everyone must have made their bets as soon as they arrived at the track earlier in the day.

I don't know if we can damage the Keeneland opening pool like that but I'm guessing 5/1, or lower, first tick.......:)

citycat 04-10-2007 10:24 AM

I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.

Cajungator26 04-10-2007 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by citycat
I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.

She's actually not that outclassed... JMO.

NTamm1215 04-10-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by citycat
I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.

Just as a quick question: are you going to make a fifth remark about the spotting of Sumwonlovesyou in this particular race, or is four enough?

NT

2 Dollar Bill 04-10-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Either that or the "High Life's", the Champagne of Beers...will YOU be in Lexington???

In SPIRIT YES..... in body @ the new Vineland OTB to place a few wagers, also FYI... anyone working on wednesday, you can watch the race (replays) from the track on TVG thursday morning @ 5am on Direct tv. channel 602. The replay show is every morning @ 5am. [ in case anyone wants to record or tivo it !! ]

ArlJim78 04-10-2007 10:59 AM

Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections:) are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.

docicu3 04-10-2007 11:06 AM

If They Come Off The Turf Does Somewon Still Go
 



Obviously we have to think about this as with folks traveling literally hundreds of miles to get to Lexington it is probably worth asking if we have a horse in the race if they take it off the turf.

Surely this is Chuck's decision only ........and with the poly the leap from turf to poly isn't a great reach but I wanted to try and get some idea as the weather forcasts for the area are less than encouraging

DrD

Coach Pants 04-10-2007 11:08 AM

...

*pulls hair out*

Cajungator26 04-10-2007 11:18 AM

I believe that was addressed and yes, she would still run.

Kasept 04-10-2007 12:08 PM

DRF 'Closer Look' on Sumwon
 
Pleasant comment by DRF Closer Look writer Bill Howard about SWLY tomorrow:

Sumwonlovesyou

Speedy filly has been in front after the opening quartermile in each of her last four races and is certainly the one to catch today; unfortunately the presence of Christies Treasure, Quiet Action and Nola Star will make the front end a rather busy place to be; gets a class test in addition to a turf test.

brockguy 04-10-2007 12:16 PM

Good Luck tomorrow for all..

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Lets see how she measures up. It is an aggressive placement but certainly not unprecendented. Take a young well bred filly with a bit of natural speed, change up the training routine, and perhaps if she is relaxed and takes to the surface she could surprise a few people. Being off since January she may need a race or two anyway to reach her peak. Why not race her on the Keeneland lawn and get a sense of her current class and suitability to the surface.

I don't think that these connections:) are aiming to necessarily "strike at first asking". If they wanted to do that they could put her in a $20K N2L claimer at Mountaineer, after putting some bullet drills in her.

Rather I think the idea is to see if she can be developed perhaps gradually into something a little more special.
just my take.

I was just mulling over the race with the DRF and TGs, and she certainly seems up against it in here. Though, it sounded like there's room for improvement given the state Chuck said she was in when he got her. Sounded like she had some bad habits and was a little tough to manage. With some improvement, she still seems in over her head here, but I think it might not be as bad as it looks on paper potentially.

pmacdaddy 04-10-2007 12:23 PM

Where are you watching the Sumwon race?
 
I know that some of you are lucky enough to be making the trip to KEE for the race.

Where are the rest of us watching? Maybe an opportunity for some to root her on together.

A few of us will be going to Austin's Ale House in Kew Gardens Queens, NY. Good food, drink, TV's and OTB right in the bar... Anyone in the area is welcome to join us.

Best of luck to our girl tomorrow!

Buffymommy 04-10-2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Pleasant comment by DRF Closer Look writer Bill Howard about SWLY tomorrow:

Sumwonlovesyou

Speedy filly has been in front after the opening quartermile in each of her last four races and is certainly the one to catch today; unfortunately the presence of Christies Treasure, Quiet Action and Nola Star will make the front end a rather busy place to be; gets a class test in addition to a turf test.


Well that is certainly a nice write up on her. He could have written worse, but then would have had to face the wrath of her owners! :D

Coach Pants 04-10-2007 12:26 PM

Unfortunately i'll be on the road and will miss the race. I'm sure it will be replayed on ATRAB though so it'll just be a slight delay for me. ;)

ArlJim78 04-10-2007 12:34 PM

No doubt Brian, she will be an underdog and is up against it.
When you have been running in mid level claimers and you move up to a Kee allowance, that is heady stuff. But I think it is encouraging that after the maiden win she moved up in price, ran against unrestricted claimers (not N2L), and stretched out, and finished second well clear of the third place horse after setting the fractions. I think she has shown a bit of talent, and the class test is warranted.

Also, I just think its a great venue to debut the partnership.

Cannon Shell 04-10-2007 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by citycat
I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.

Check out these outclassed no hope horses

http://www.drf.com/drfHCPOnlineFileR...&file_type=pdf

http://www.drf.com/drfHCPOnlineFileR...&file_type=pdf

jman5581 04-10-2007 12:48 PM

Links don't work, who were they?

jman5581 04-10-2007 12:50 PM

Work. Hopefully on the KEE website. With a few friends...

brianwspencer 04-10-2007 12:52 PM

Work off the KEE site too.

Cannon Shell 04-10-2007 12:53 PM

I cant link them so that you can see them but check out the first time I raced Fast City and Silks for Di and tell me if you thought that they had a shot.

Bigsmc 04-10-2007 12:58 PM

Hotel room on Youbet.

jman5581 04-10-2007 12:59 PM

I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. :D Nice.

Have many Came Home's been running on turf yet?

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-10-2007 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by citycat
I know you guys are having a blast with your first race with your first horse but from the outside looking in you might want to consider a more reasonable spot. True anything can happen when the gates open and I wish you luck.

Just the morning line odds should be a reminder of this. Asking a young horse to do not one but two new things (surface and distance) and the fierce competition at Keeneland will be alot to handle.

WHY DO YOU CARE..this is a good spot..will see whats what ...if the breeding comes through she will run well on the turf,,,if you dont like whats going on..go away...tired of the negitive posts about our girl.

Sightseek 04-10-2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. :D Nice.

Have many Came Home's been running on turf yet?

I'm not sure if anyone posted the links for the Brisnet Ultimate PP's but Came Home's turf stats would be on them.

Pedigree Ann 04-10-2007 01:14 PM

Just started 'doing' this race for the Keeneland contest (I won it two years ago, did I tell you?) and discovered what this thread was about. According to the pedigree line in the BRIS PPs, Came Home has had 0% Turf winners, but he is, of course, a newby in the sire ranks. And mum was a G3 SW on turf, so one has to hope she takes after mum.

Amamzingly, when I looked at the PPs, I see that your filly was beaten last out by Delaware Debutante, who is currently owned by some friends from another board! Small world principle. DD has gone to CT so her owners can protect her in allowance races instead of risking her for a tag. They were really worried in that race that she'd be claimed but dodged a bullet.

Thoroughbred Fan 04-10-2007 01:16 PM

Good luck to everyone involved. That said, I think it'll be better if she can rate a little bit.

Keep in mind, at the end of every race there is only one happy owner. There are nine people who are disappointed to one degree or another.

Last thought, as long as she actually "runs" and comes back sound it is a victory.

phystech 04-10-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
G

Keep in mind, at the end of every race there is only one happy owner. There are nine people who are disappointed to one degree or another.

In an allowance race with a $54k purse, sometimes you can be better off milking the condition two or three times before you win it. At $10k+ per second place finish, I wouldn't be disappointed at all running second a few times..... :)

Cannon Shell 04-10-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jman5581
I remember Fast City. Had some graded earnings....ran in the Jefferson Cup at Churchill, I might have been at that race. :D Nice.

3rd as a maiden, paid for him with that purse. Also 2nd in Saranac at Saratoga.


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