Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Where exactly was James Brown going to be fired FROM? Wouldn't he have been an independent contractor?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I guess what is the most annoying part of the whole process is how a story can be so affected by the media and it needs to fill the 24 hour news fix. This in itself is NOT an important story. Imus and his cronies never threatened or personally slurred anyone. They simply made a bad joke. The media grabbed the story and ran with it because sensationalistic race stories get good headlines. Sharpton and Jesse jumping in just makes it less of a real issue in most of America's view because they have virtually zero creditability in mainstream America. Jesse is a hypocrite who needs to make stories like this grow because he jumped the shark about 15 years ago when he refered to NY as "hymietown". Sharpton is as one way as one could be in regards to race relations as pointed out in other posts. Imus was guilty of nothing but poor taste which is not a crime. Making this out to be a crime against black people is a joke. Making this out to be singularly harmful to any member of the Rutgers team is laughable. Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock have said the same sort of things about "white" people and there are no reprecusions and well there should not be. Saying someone is "nappyheaded" or has tattoos or is thugish is in poor taste but these are hardly traumatic things.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

You've not used them as liberally as I had hoped! :)

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I certainly did not take offense nor did I call anyone a name unless you count "lefty" as namecalling but if you truly are a liberal it should not be considered offensive. I merely countered your potshot at me which was based upon personal innuendo rather than based upon any topical subject. By no means was I ofnded as a matter of fact I thought it was funny that you would resort to such tactics. I stand by my original post which basically says why are these things made into bigger issues than they should be? I'm far from worried that the Rutgers womans basketball team will be scarred or offended. We spend far too much time worrying about stupidity like this. Fact is that we as a society have grown far too politically correct and the particualrs of this case are further proof of this. I am not saying that I agree or disagree with those that are offended by Imus comments but those who believe in freedom of speech and other pillars of the constitution should stand up and say that people who say stupid things have rights too.

Originally Posted by byalip

Sure they do. People who say stupid things have the right to duck when someone who they've insulted punches them in the mouth.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I agree it's news because it's entertaining to watch people scream that they've been traumatized (that tool of the Right, Bill Donohue, saying that Chocolate Jesus was one of the the most offensive attacks EVER to be made against Christianity was particularly amusing). But there's plenty of media opportunists on both left and right sides-- death threats were called into the hotel displaying Chocolate Jesus, for example, and I suspect those calls weren't made by lefties, or anyone who supports those "pigs Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi" to quote your words from earlier. So yes, I agree with you that this is a lot of yelling about a situation that probably doesn't warrant it, but you know, that happens with just about any group than can consider itself a group.

Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock have made very pointed observations about both blacks and whites, so I don't know that that comparison holds. I don't know if Imus has made any observation about whites that compares with what he has said about blacks. But I mean that when I say I don't know; if Imus has made some accurate and funny comments about his own race, please link to them.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But he did not really SAY anything ABOUT blacks. He made fun of the Rutgers basketball team which does have white people on it. Imus makes fun of pretty much everyone. I would hardly say that Chappelle or Rock could be considered middle of the road.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

How much you wanna bet Imus has never had higher ratings than the last day or two?!?

Ironically, the big stink is gonna make such that there is no way NBC will fire the guy...higher ratings = higher ad rev.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I've long considered "heated" debates on message boards to be more or less a form of masturbation. Everyone just wants to spew theirs* out, yet rarely want to touch someone else's spew because...well...that's just gross. Every now and then it goes somewhere interesting, but not too often.

Wank on!



*sorry, GR

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

All he does is find EVERYTHING wrong about sports...a chronic bitcher
but never knocks his own paper for some of the "crap" they have in it.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But he did not really SAY anything ABOUT blacks. He made fun of the Rutgers basketball team which does have white people on it. Imus makes fun of pretty much everyone. I would hardly say that Chappelle or Rock could be considered middle of the road.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Thanks. I think his cable co-broadcast confused me, and I haven't listened to traditional radio since I got Sirius (And don't forget ATRAB on channel 124 - live from 4-7 EST! ).

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Obviously, you haven't seen some of the videos I have! :o

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I believe that is a matter of opinion, thank you very much.

Originally Posted by golfer

That's not exactly true, he has taken his own paper to task at times (specifically for running "scamdicapper" Mike Warren adds). I think his social commentary far outweighs his TV sports commentary.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

You're right. It's not nice of me to criticize your taste in moo-vies.

Originally Posted by golfer

The man's got to make a living. I take it your not a fan. I've been reading his columns for 20 + years, I happen to agree with much of what he writes. C'est La Vie:)

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

MSNBC will be suspending the simulcast of Imus in the morning for 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

I just have a problem with someone who is always negative and has to bring up the most obscure things about something that "he" says he's a fan of (professional sports).

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Uhm...two weeks is far from him losing his job as so many wanted. I think it bodes well for his short-term future (and I only say "short-term" because it looks like he is gonna keel over any second now...talk about a crypt keeper lookin mofo...sheesh).

Originally Posted by golfer

I understand that Hickory, some of the stuff he writes leaves me wondering, "who cares", but I think that's the nature of having a 2 or 3 times a week column, he has to fill some times with less than earth shattering stuff.

Originally Posted by Grits

Bbm, I just caught this as well with Lou Dobbs on CNN. This has not only the black community outraged. This has the backing of every woman's organization, business, etc, etc, in the nation.

In other words, Mr Imus's words have been seen as an offense to all women.

This does not bode well for this man, not at all

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Please tell me you're being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I've long considered "heated" debates on message boards to be more or less a form of masturbation. Everyone just wants to spew theirs* out, yet rarely want to touch someone else's spew because...well...that's just gross. Every now and then it goes somewhere interesting, but not too often.

Wank on!



*sorry, GR

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Odd sort of comment coming from a guy without a fully functional d**k.