at least you are honest J....lol

Dont forget to add that you have to see something in order to have an opinion. So you hate free speech and could care less about other's opinions and you feel blind people should not have an opinion since they cannot see.

Oh the American way. Now I have respect for you.

lying bastard...you like me...

enough for me tonight....

Im out like a fat kid in dodge ball....








wait....was that racist?:eek:

Calling someone fat isnt racist. It is being insensitive to those with weight problems.

so now I am a insensitive racist......LOVELY

Well everyone must be something.

Do you get any handicapping opinions from blind people? Do you know any stewards who are blind? Aside from those in NY??

They should be like the NFL replay. Have the head Judge run to the replay booth, while we watch the replay on the Big screen, and everytime the infraction replays, we go ewh,ah.ewh ah, until the Judge comes out and says's, After the review of the reply, the call stands. 1st and 10. Play ball.

Every single post in this thread after post 88, and forward, until this morning with post 134 should be deleted. Two entire pages of nothingness added, that was useless exchange to what was an excellent thread. Brought about by a poster that was simply throwing chum to the fish. Absolute foolishness.

But now, one has 7+ pages to scroll through instead of 5.

What the TRPB (Thoroughbred Racing Protective Burue) do in this cases?.
It saids in their mission: "The TRPB also pursues nationwide participation in conferences, seminars, workshops, and other assemblies considering programs related to integrity, security, safety, enforcement, and ethics in racing."
Sombody send them the tape.

Then again, you can have a Giant Chieftan situation where they DQ themself! :p

Every time I see Kon Krete Kid run back I think of that race.


My 2 cents which aren't even worth that much: Coa deserved 8-10 days, Martin no more than half that if any at all.

Bethany nailed it when she said you cannot put the horses and other riders at risk to "settle the score".

This may awfully simplistic, but if visual evidence is required... yes, of course.

If I turned on the radio and asked a man who was deaf what song was playing, would he know?

Job Title:

State Steward
Job Description:
The Colorado Division of Racing Events has an opening for the position of State Steward at Arapahoe Park Racetrack in Aurora, Colorado. Arapahoe Park will commence its 2007 Mixed Meet on May 26, 2007. It is an 36-day meet ending on August 11, 2007. Tenative start date is May 21, 2007. Out of state residents are eligible to apply for this position, but may have to have a Colorado address at time of application.
Job Details:
Address:
1881 Pierce Street
Suite 108
Lakewood, CO 80214

Contact: Robert "Duke" Mann

A lot of the problem stems from the stewards likely feeling they needed to justify their decision not to make a DQ in the race. They made a poor "non-decision" there and felt compelled to justify it with their "equal fault" issuing of suspensions.

More and more, it seems, stewards are making their decisions based on the "did it or did it not alter the race outcome" concept. To be sure, subjectivity is part of their job, but it's gotten out of hand, imo.

I rarely see any DQ's any more for incidents other than those that occur in the homestretch which is wrong. To a great extent, a foul is a foul, wherever it occurs during a race. By not punishing riders for these fouls, the stewards only encourage this kind of bad race-riding tactics.

"Every man is given a spoon. Any man who loses his spoon spends a night in the box." Where's Boss Karl when we need him?

The "provocation" was just a typical incident that occurs as horses gain fotting and position early. Martin's actions did not appear intentinal at all, Coa's did.

Coa almost put Leparoux over the hedge twice at saratoga and it looked totally on purpose.

And as such are one of the least respected professions in the world. But if they were called in to analyze the weather after it occurred, I bet most of them would be pretty accurate. Unlike many stewards.

This "non-decision decision thing is just wrong. These officials are paid to make decisions not waffle.

Excellent post

Wow Cannon, "least respected" . . . you're a little strong aren't you? Where I live, most of them have degrees in Metoerological Science, and they don't get too much of it wrong any more.

I also agree with Sent2Stud. It's the same twisted logic you see from Stewards concerning suspensions. Every time a horse is disqualified in a questionable decision the stewards seem to give the rider days ( which is not always necessary ) as if to justify their mediocre decision.

The stretch fouls while ignoring the rest of the race is preposterous. It would be like the NBA doing away with backcourt fouls.

I agree, thanks G.

No. Computers do most of their work now anyway, and they are still wrong quite often. Name a lesser respected professional profession? Politicians dont count!

The American War fighter!!

Under paid too

I totally agree.

Well, with the slight exception of posts 85, 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 99, 100, 102, 103, 107, 111.

Other than that, yes, you are right. Those pages were full of just foolishness that had nothing to do with the discussion.

*Cue sirens for the on-topic popo*

How do we know the stewards didn't take into consideration facts unknown to the public when handing out the equal suspensions?

Looks like I may be searching for another trainer, if and when I buy a horse.
I don't think this one cares for me one iota.
And knowing he's good.

Bummer.

I'm a little late to chime in on this thread, but I thought that Coa displayed a questionable move on Saturday as well. I believe it was the 4th race...he ended up winning, but pinched the 2nd place horse tight on the rail in deep stretch, causing him to check (Ponce aboard). I remember thinking it was unnecessary at the time.

yikes...my husband and i disagree on some things--not looking for a new hubby! just because someone disagrees with you on something doesn't mean anything personal.

What do you work for the weather channel or something?

Something.

Then can you please do something about the forecast for Louisville this weekend ? Like eliminate the rain?

Try PRAYER, how's that for meteorological science? LOLOL

It hasn't worked well in the past.