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randallscott35 02-03-2007 05:37 PM

Invasor's only loss was to....................Discreet Cat. Collision course in Dubai.

SniperSB23 02-03-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Invasor's only loss was to....................Discreet Cat. Collision course in Dubai.

....and Testimony and Flemme De Passion. Somehow I don't think he brought his A game, B game, or C game that day.

Samarta 02-03-2007 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
where in the heck did that word come from???:eek:

not to often a word can overshadow the reigning horse of the year in his return to the winner's circle....

-BT- 02-03-2007 05:48 PM

Jara has certainly had some big wins, but overall he has about a 10% win percentage. I think that puts him in the average (mediocre) category

Samarta 02-03-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Swale84
Jara has certainly had some big wins, but overall he has about a 10% win percentage. I think that puts him in the average (mediocre) category

but at the top of the 18 year old jocks list.....I think the kid is gonna be a really good one

-BT- 02-03-2007 05:56 PM

Joe Talamo is riding well at the Fairgrounds and is showing potential as a 17 year old

WillSmith 02-03-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
where in the heck did that word come from???:eek:

eviscerate ( ) v. , -ated , -ating , -ates . v.tr. To remove the entrails of; disembowel. To take away a vital or essential part of: a compromise that.

GPK 02-03-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
eviscerate ( ) v. , -ated , -ating , -ates . v.tr. To remove the entrails of; disembowel. To take away a vital or essential part of: a compromise that.


thank you

pgardn 02-03-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Well, the rider of AP Arrow had more than a right to keep him from taking his hole. Of course AP Arrow didn't start running until he got to the outside but that's another story.

I haven't watched the race carefully. I'm still pissed Invasor got through at all as I wanted Zito to win a Grade 1.

Invasor could have easily lost that race if the rail had not opened. Seattle must havehad his heart in his throat. By far the best horse but that is not what the chalk players wanted to see... a number of people must have been stroking out.

Danzig 02-03-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
....and Testimony and Flemme De Passion. Somehow I don't think he brought his A game, B game, or C game that day.

he shipped up from south america to florida, and then on to dubai. and he did suffer a sesamoid injury at some point before leaving south america.
at any rate, much travel, and from what i understand, a trip from hell in dubai--and was still charging at the end.
if he brings his a game, discreet cat better look out!

Danzig 02-03-2007 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
They are wrong Andy---Johnny V wasn't on A.P. Arrow, that was Kent D.

why am i not surprised...

dftwhbvxlcklop 02-03-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
That was Desermeaux who did that on A.P. Arrow....another one of his vintage crazed rides that he is only capable of.

I am not talking about AP Arrow, I am talking about the 4 horse Chatain.

dftwhbvxlcklop 02-03-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That wasn't Johnny V. It was Cornelio Velasquez.

Thanks. I will go back and edit my post. Thanks for the correction.

Cajungator26 02-03-2007 06:51 PM

I missed watching this race today... (sick kid all day), but I was just reading the trip notes and it sounds like Heanoldsalt had a rough trip too. How did he look to you guys?

Seattleallstar 02-03-2007 07:00 PM

Caj, hesanoldsalt and ap arrow put in grade 1 peformances. I didnt bet to win because even im not that much of a degenerate to put over 1k on a 1-5 shot to win. Messing around at Tampa Bay I made a few nice tri hits, and in the Donn I just put a 200 exacta with hesanold. and a 10 dollar tri, 2 dollar super. The only big win bet I made was on Naissance Royal for 600. So I had a good day at the track, meltdown was averted

The Indomitable DrugS 02-03-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 dollar pick 3
I am not talking about AP Arrow, I am talking about the 4 horse Chatain.

Well---Kent D. put A.P. Arrow in an all-out drive, and strong left handed whipping...just to keep Invasor sealed in....and when he had him, you'll see him all of a sudden stop riding for a moment......it was very aggressive race riding...and was the cause of Invasor's troubles

KirisClown 02-03-2007 07:06 PM

Here's the replay... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2WkqdxHWbU

It's also on the NTRA site...

Cannon Shell 02-03-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Well---Kent D. put A.P. Arrow in an all-out drive, and strong left handed whipping...just to keep Invasor sealed in....and when he had him, you'll see him all of a sudden stop riding for a moment......it was very aggressive race riding...and was the cause of Invasor's troubles

Invasors problems were caused by Jara thinking about splitting 2 stopping 100-1 shots. I dont think that this race was as good as it looks because of the trouble. I mean he accelerated past 2 stopping horses and outfinished Penna's horse who wants no part of 1 1/8th, Hesanoldsalt who lost a ton of ground on the turn, and AP Arrow who also was steadied behind the stopping horses and was actually under the whip at the 3/8ths while behind Invasor. The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

Danzig 02-03-2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Invasors problems were caused by Jara thinking about splitting 2 stopping 100-1 shots. I dont think that this race was as good as it looks because of the trouble. I mean he accelerated past 2 stopping horses and outfinished Penna's horse who wants no part of 1 1/8th, Hesanoldsalt who lost a ton of ground on the turn, and AP Arrow who also was steadied behind the stopping horses and was actually under the whip at the 3/8ths while behind Invasor. The pace set up well for him and they did not come home fast on a track that seemed to be a tick or 2 fast. Not saying that he was fully cranked or trying to denigrate the horse but this was not some superior performance. It was a very good horse overcoming a bit of trouble while beating overmatched foes.
Feel free to blast me.

it's hard to really get a feel for the race because of how everything unfolded. obviously invasor should have come down the lane easy as pie-had his jock not made a colossal blunder early. says a lot about the horse that he came on again after that trouble-and also speaks volumes about the rest of the field that he took off so easy-you look that much better when everyone else is backpedalling.

that race shouldn't have had any excitement at all to it. here's hoping nothing is sore on him tomorrow!


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