They took 3 months off between an excellent Met Mile and won the Whitney, giving this particular horse time between races has worked well.

Why waste the time trying to read between the lines when the horse didn't even get a fair chance to run his best? I will be more concerned on whether he will hold up to the pace pressure he will meet in the BCC than any idea that he was over the top because the 3 year olds took more money.

Saint Liam broke from the 12.

Yeah I think Tiznow was 10, they were all double digits I believe which was Andy's point.

Of course it was.

Another one have thoughts on Cross Traffic being bred to Dreaming of Julia..lol

The time off between the Met Mile and Whitney was planned. He didn't even make it back to the track to work for almost a full month after the Met Mile. The decision to skip the Woodward was a last minute decision. There is a difference.

the 2 year old fillies in the east are slow and will be nowhere in the BC

I would wait through the weekend before making that assumption...

I'll be using Palace Malice coming out of the JCGC, noting Welsh's workout reports since he is usually a fantastic worker.

I didn't hate Authenticity's last race -- just the trip she received. The field is looking very short for the Lady's Classic.

Steve Haskin ‏@SteveHaskin
Despite getting beat 6 3/4 lengths in the JC Gold Cup, Palace Malice's time would have won the previous nine Gold Cups. #freakywinner

Those kinds of comments do more harm than good.

Care to elaborate? Not being wise, just curious....

The surface changes speed day to day, let alone year to year.

Raw times are meaningless, especially over different years, and confusing people by suggesting otherwise does no good....and harms the uninitiated that don't understand that.

In order to improve fan understanding of the game, the last thing we need to do is mislead them, and comments like that are misleading.

Would love to hear a possible explanation from Glen Kozak. More specifically, a technical discussion to help people understand the nuances of track maintenance.

You mean Monarchos wouldn't have won every Derby but Secretariat's? I'm crushed....time only matters in prison boys and girls.

I assume this was meant as a nonsequitur?

Jay Cronley's column about his handicapping on the Gold Cup was entertaining reading:

http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...988/we-execute

Absolutely not.

But it is one.

I saw those comments on Twitter and was literally laughing out loud. I knew it would be a topic of discussion here.

Not only that, it often changes between races, particularly when a few turf races are thrown in between. Assuming the JCGC track speed was the same as the other dirt races is a pretty big leap.