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Danzig 03-06-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 843727)
And those savings will be spent for more warfare or some other bulls.hit reason.

The reality is responsible folks who earn their money will pay more for bc at the store. The cost will be dumped on the working class so the lazy f.ucks can have sex for free.

Many programs for people 300% above the poverty level and below provide bc for free through the drug companies

Really wish you would wake the f.uck up and stop making it easier for scum to prevent pregnancies. You will pay for it. The pennies you save in taxes will be made up. Count on it.

that's always been my concern, that savings in one area would mean spending in another.
however....why would it be a bad idea to prevent unwanted pregnancies? not only do i not get why you feel cussing makes a better point, but i certainly don't get why i need to wake up in that regard. you read every day about kids abused or killed, so i'm dumb for wanting people to be informed on how to prevent having kids they don't want? i'm missing your logic there.
and if bc is provided free already, how can you drag increased costs in-wouldn't they already have that increase if it's already free?

Riot 03-06-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 843659)
BUT - make no mistake - it is her responsibility to cover that cost. Birth control is not free - and neither is sex. If you cannot afford the consequences that may come from sexual behavior, then guess what - you shouldn't be having sex.

We have a nation of spoiled brats. Waaaaaaahhhh, pay for my stuff, waaaaaahhh. Grow up people.

No, we have a nation of self-identified moral zealots trying to force their personal sexual "morality" down the throats of every other American.

Birth control pills are a prescribed medication just like antibiotics or steroids. Of course preventive medication should be covered by insurance as preventive health care if a doctor prescribes them within the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship. For some to make the government step into the doctors office, examine a patient's motives, and take that right away is undemocratic theocratic zealotry on the part of a few.

People have individual rights, and the freedom from having others opinions, especially religious, forced upon us is the cornerstone of this democracy.

Riot 03-06-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 843648)
Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital; guess that's why Mitt Romney issued a "non-denouncing denouncement" of Rush.


Ocala Mike

I know. Funny nobody has picked up on that one :p

Coach Pants 03-06-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 843730)
that's always been my concern, that savings in one area would mean spending in another.
however....why would it be a bad idea to prevent unwanted pregnancies? not only do i not get why you feel cussing makes a better point, but i certainly don't get why i need to wake up in that regard. you read every day about kids abused or killed, so i'm dumb for wanting people to be informed on how to prevent having kids they don't want? i'm missing your logic there.
and if bc is provided free already, how can you drag increased costs in-wouldn't they already have that increase if it's already free?

Because the link you posted is assuming these retar.ds will have the mental capacity to use birth control. They overlook the fact that mandatory coverage does not equal personal responsibility. And lets be realistic, the costs of the unwanted pregnancies center around stupid people being irresponsible.

This fix won't work. They will keep adding mandates until we get to the point that they start promoting sterilization and having it tax-funded.

It's a slippery slope of fail and that's where our government shines.

Danzig 03-06-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 843739)
Because the link you posted is assuming these retar.ds will have the mental capacity to use birth control. They overlook the fact that mandatory coverage does not equal personal responsibility. And lets be realistic, the costs of the unwanted pregnancies center around stupid people being irresponsible.

This fix won't work. They will keep adding mandates until we get to the point that they start promoting sterilization and having it tax-funded.

It's a slippery slope of fail and that's where our government shines.

true. i've been reminded before that i have to quit assuming everyone thinks like i do. obviously everyone doesn't care to be responsible. i guess it's like the movie line says, some men you just can't reach.

bigrun 03-06-2012 04:25 PM

:eek:
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 843595)
Any man who wants Viagra must have a digital rectal exam and a cardiac treadmill test



Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!


I want to change my vote in the super tuesday thread to Santorum...:eek:

bigrun 03-06-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 843733)
I know. Funny nobody has picked up on that one :p


Stewart last nite...comments from the big 3 repuke contenders about Rush, what you might expect...and does a roast of Rush...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...-shaun-donovan

Riot 03-06-2012 06:57 PM

Advertisers fleeing Limbaugh in droves
 
ABout time.

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The steady stream of advertisers fleeing Rush Limbaugh's radio show continued on Monday and Tuesday, as a barrage of new companies announced they would no longer run commercials on the program in the wake of Limbaugh's offensive comments about Sandra Fluke.
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On Monday night, makeup company Bare Escentuals told its Twitter followers that it was pulling its ads:

So did the Sensa Weight Loss company:

And, earlier on Monday, vitamin site Vitacost made the same announcement:

On Tuesday, Think Progress listed five additional companies who have vacated the show: AccuQuote, ServiceMagic, Polycom, Hadeed Carpet and Thompson Creek Windows.

The businesses join many others (including AOL, parent company of The Huffington Post) in ending their association with Limbaugh's show.

Two radio stations have also dropped the program in the wake of Limbaugh's comments about Fluke.
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UPDATE: On Tuesday afternoon, ThinkProgress listed nine other companies that have pulled out from Limbaugh's show, or moved to make sure that their ads do not air during the program. Those companies are stamps.com, Deere & Co., Geico, St. Vincent’s Medical Center in Connecticut, Bethesda Sedation Dentistry, Cascades Dental, Allstate, Sears and men's retailer Bonobos.
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Geico issued a very strong statement on Tuesday, emphasizing that it has repeatedly instructed partners not to run its ads during Limbaugh's program. It threatened to completely withdraw from the radio network unless its ads are removed from the show [one of it's ads ran Monday on Rush's show]

JC Penney also announced on Twitter that it would ensure that its commercials were not aired on Limbaugh's show.
All the above at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1323358.html

Riot 03-06-2012 09:46 PM

Whoa! Rush gets skewered ....
 
Gene Weingarten :

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Greetings, update readers.

Were you as gratified as I was when Rush Limbaugh finally admitted on the air yesterday that he has gotten rich and famous by “pandering to the prejudices and insecurities of marginally literate, unfathomably ignorant jackasses who have to be told what to hate”?
Etc.... it gets better!

http://live.washingtonpost.com/gene-...6.html?hpid=z5

bigrun 03-06-2012 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 843838)
Gene Weingarten :



Etc.... it gets better!

http://live.washingtonpost.com/gene-...6.html?hpid=z5


ROR..

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.” That final reference was to a 2006 contretemps in which he was detained at an airport for carrying 29 100-mg Viagra pills in a mislabeled bottle. Yesterday, Limbaugh admitted this was enough Viagra “to arouse a corpse” but noted that he needs the extra stimulation since “the only woman I ever found truly sexy was my mommy, circa 1978.”

Ocala Mike 03-06-2012 10:48 PM

Can't really fault Rush for calling that girl a slut. He was told she was a Georgetown "Hoya" and, as we all know, he's a little hard of hearing.
(Plus, with all that Viagra, a little hard - period.)

;);););)


Ocala Mike

dellinger63 03-06-2012 11:43 PM

Is Ms. Fluke Catholic?

I heard a nasty rumor she attended Georgetown for no other reason than to change their policy regarding contraception. :zz:

joeydb 03-07-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 843732)
No, we have a nation of self-identified moral zealots trying to force their personal sexual "morality" down the throats of every other American.

Birth control pills are a prescribed medication just like antibiotics or steroids. Of course preventive medication should be covered by insurance as preventive health care if a doctor prescribes them within the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship. For some to make the government step into the doctors office, examine a patient's motives, and take that right away is undemocratic theocratic zealotry on the part of a few.

People have individual rights, and the freedom from having others opinions, especially religious, forced upon us is the cornerstone of this democracy.

It is not an overly moralistic statement to say that your own elective behavior should not be subsidized.

As I pointed out a couple of times - I do agree that when that medication is prescribed as treatment for other conditions it should be covered.

You can't have it both ways. You will not have much in the form of individual rights if you want everything managed and subsidized by government. Like it or not, an inescapable consequence of capitalism is "he who pays the bills dictates the rules." You can only preserve your individual rights by acting - uhh -- as an individual. An individual who is as independent as possible of the government. Otherwise, you will eventually become a serf, or ward of the state, subject to all the rules and control that the state wishes to exert on your life.

And the mechanism you cite is backwards. It is not the people forcing their will upon women like Ms. Fluke. It is Ms Fluke trying to force her will upon the rest of us by demanding a subsidy to her lifestyle.

somerfrost 03-07-2012 07:51 AM

Typical Dell response....the ship has already left the harbor guy, time to move on to the next thread.

somerfrost 03-07-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 843861)
It is not an overly moralistic statement to say that your own elective behavior should not be subsidized.

As I pointed out a couple of times - I do agree that when that medication is prescribed as treatment for other conditions it should be covered.

You can't have it both ways. You will not have much in the form of individual rights if you want everything managed and subsidized by government. Like it or not, an inescapable consequence of capitalism is "he who pays the bills dictates the rules." You can only preserve your individual rights by acting - uhh -- as an individual. An individual who is as independent as possible of the government. Otherwise, you will eventually become a serf, or ward of the state, subject to all the rules and control that the state wishes to exert on your life.

And the mechanism you cite is backwards. It is not the people forcing their will upon women like Ms. Fluke. It is Ms Fluke trying to force her will upon the rest of us by demanding a subsidy to her lifestyle.

Not sure she ever addressed the issue of her lifestyle, break away from being a ditto head long enough to address the facts.

Danzig 03-07-2012 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 843861)
It is not an overly moralistic statement to say that your own elective behavior should not be subsidized.

As I pointed out a couple of times - I do agree that when that medication is prescribed as treatment for other conditions it should be covered.You can't have it both ways. You will not have much in the form of individual rights if you want everything managed and subsidized by government. Like it or not, an inescapable consequence of capitalism is "he who pays the bills dictates the rules." You can only preserve your individual rights by acting - uhh -- as an individual. An individual who is as independent as possible of the government. Otherwise, you will eventually become a serf, or ward of the state, subject to all the rules and control that the state wishes to exert on your life.

And the mechanism you cite is backwards. It is not the people forcing their will upon women like Ms. Fluke. It is Ms Fluke trying to force her will upon the rest of us by demanding a subsidy to her lifestyle.

again, ms. fluke was discussing BC for medical reasons. not sure why you continue to drag this in another direction.
and again, her testimony had to do with private insurers, not medicaid or other govt. subsidized care.

Coach Pants 03-07-2012 08:58 AM

Yeah and I'm sure these medical conditions won't differ from those who receive medical marijuana.

"Oh doctah! In sick! I've had nausea evah since I got off teh birf control."

It's just so easy to pull one over on Americans these days. Just look at last night. A nation of dullards.

Antitrust32 03-07-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 843861)
It is not an overly moralistic statement to say that your own elective behavior should not be subsidized.

As I pointed out a couple of times - I do agree that when that medication is prescribed as treatment for other conditions it should be covered.

You can't have it both ways. You will not have much in the form of individual rights if you want everything managed and subsidized by government. Like it or not, an inescapable consequence of capitalism is "he who pays the bills dictates the rules." You can only preserve your individual rights by acting - uhh -- as an individual. An individual who is as independent as possible of the government. Otherwise, you will eventually become a serf, or ward of the state, subject to all the rules and control that the state wishes to exert on your life.

And the mechanism you cite is backwards. It is not the people forcing their will upon women like Ms. Fluke. It is Ms Fluke trying to force her will upon the rest of us by demanding a subsidy to her lifestyle.

Did you even read her testimony? She didn't even talk about herself once. For all anyone knows, she could be a virgin. Your last sentence is painfully ignorant.

Coach Pants 03-07-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 843874)
Did you even read her testimony? She didn't even talk about herself once. For all anyone knows, she could be a virgin. Your last sentence is painfully ignorant.

Then she has an agenda and I want to know who is pulling her strings.

Wake up to the propaganda and diversionary tactics of the enemy. She is not on our side.

dellinger63 03-07-2012 09:38 AM

I think it's all about choice.

Ms. Fluke and all women certainly should have the choice to receive contraception.

But religion and specifically the Catholic church should be allowed the choice to stay away from providing something that goes against church doctrine and again if we are to believe Obama & Co., the cost of omitting coverage would result in paying a higher premium.

Should Ms. Fluke & Co. want/need contraceptive coverage while in college they should avoid schools like Georgetown, Marquette, Loyola and Notre Dame or perhaps a private charity could step in and provide supplemental coverage. Then again there's the old fashion way of providing for yourself but that's a dying phenomena.

BTW there is a hint of truth in 'Catholic girls start much too late'.

Disclaimer: If at anytime viagra is covered in a group policy bc pills certainly should as well.


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