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blackthroatedwind 01-30-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 835170)
I'm not sure how you could take much positive out of that last race for Raison D'Etat. In any case, he'll still be overbet.

He was WAY against the track.

He's not as good as I had thought. But, he's not as bad as he has looked. We'll see.

Calzone Lord 01-30-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 835170)
I'm not sure how you could take much positive out of that last race for Raison D'Etat. In any case, he'll still be overbet.

I think he wins back.

I've got your figures working very nicely for me in the turf races now. I did my own parallel time charts for each distance and tinkered with the raw numbers... but it's coming along nice.

cmorioles 01-30-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 835176)
He was WAY against the track.

He's not as good as I had thought. But, he's not as bad as he has looked. We'll see.

I know he was, I just don't think he is ever going to offer value and I don't think he ran very well even considering the track. Mostly though, he'll still be bet too heavily.

Scav 01-30-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 835145)
Yes -- sadly I had no other software that would allow me to copy the replays from the ADW websites.

Try Pavtube Studio, im not sure if it will work but it will capture any video that is playing on your computer and you can save it in any format, i think

Indian Charlie 01-30-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 835144)
I'm guessing a non-activated version of avs4you?

Yeah, that was pretty good detective work on your part :)

I asked before I checked the video.

You'd think with as much time as I took explaining bit torrents to him, he'd have figured out how to get either a cracked copy of it, or something better.

Calzone Lord 01-30-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 835107)
And time-wise, I would suggest keeping them under ten minutes, or even under eight if you can. When you're famous and have your handicapping show on ESPN, you can do 22-minute shows, but the internet is a different beast.

Thanks for the pointers and advice Nicole.

I was really convinced you made a lot of good points until MMSC said she agreed with you 100%.

Even if I never get that handicapping show on ESPN -- I've already reached the mountain top by doing a show with Serling before he was ever famous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phF57...bv4Q-Aq3q1QM2D


The Bill Mott maiden was last years Breeders Cup Mile winner Court Vision - he was a next out.

Keeneland 10-6-2007 Race #4: http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=4

Keeneland 10-6-2007 Race #8:
http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=8

I hope someone took BTW's advice and bet Court Vision back off the maiden win -- because I didn't. He won a Gr 3 next out at 8/1. The great Discreet Cat and the great Hystericalady! Never thought I'd say this, but 2007 was a fun racing season.

Calzone Lord 01-30-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 835179)
Try Pavtube Studio, im not sure if it will work but it will capture any video that is playing on your computer and you can save it in any format, i think

I'll check it out. Travis was telling me about something that sounded perfect.

blackthroatedwind 01-30-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 835185)
Even if I never get that handicapping show on ESPN -- I've already reached the mountain top by doing a show with Serling before he was ever famous.

I was infamous back then.

I was also younger.

Sightseek 01-30-2012 07:03 PM

I finally got to watch them.

Nice! ;)


While we have to miss out on seeing your pretty boy good looks, I like the format that you're using and would only suggest that you use more video, charts, pp cuts. For example, for Cigar's Pacific Classic, the screen shot was a great place to start - introduce the horses, show their relative positioning, odds, say a little about them etc., but I think you could have enchanced the lesson there by including some actual race clip and perhaps some of the chart or a cut of the horses's pps. Evidence always makes for a more lasting impression, you used that tool very well in the Rapid Redux race.

That said -- if you just conquer the sound so we can hear you, you've already produced something that is better than what the tracks or racing programs are putting out.

pweizer 01-30-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 835232)
I finally got to watch them.

Nice! ;)


While we have to miss out on seeing your pretty boy good looks, I like the format that you're using and would only suggest that you use more video, charts, pp cuts. For example, for Cigar's Pacific Classic, the screen shot was a great place to start - introduce the horses, show their relative positioning, odds, say a little about them etc., but I think you could have enchanced the lesson there by including some actual race clip and perhaps some of the chart or a cut of the horses's pps. Evidence always makes for a more lasting impression, you used that tool very well in the Rapid Redux race.

That said -- if you just conquer the sound so we can hear you, you've already produced something that is better than what the tracks or racing programs are putting out.



I totally agree with that statement. This is obviously still a work in progress. But it provides very useful information which would be very helpful to almost any horse player.

I hope you stick with this.

Paul

freddymo 01-30-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 835232)
I finally got to watch them.

Nice! ;)


While we have to miss out on seeing your pretty boy good looks, I like the format that you're using and would only suggest that you use more video, charts, pp cuts. For example, for Cigar's Pacific Classic, the screen shot was a great place to start - introduce the horses, show their relative positioning, odds, say a little about them etc., but I think you could have enchanced the lesson there by including some actual race clip and perhaps some of the chart or a cut of the horses's pps. Evidence always makes for a more lasting impression, you used that tool very well in the Rapid Redux race.

That said -- if you just conquer the sound so we can hear you, you've already produced something that is better than what the tracks or racing programs are putting out.

He is in love with a sox...let it go

blackthroatedwind 01-30-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 835232)
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That said -- if you just conquer the sound so we can hear you, you've already produced something that is better than what the tracks or racing programs are putting out.

I'm going to have to take exception to this....especially given that it is admittedly a copy of something I have been doing at NYRA for 3 1/2 years.

How about The National Racing Report? Have you watched it?

blackthroatedwind 01-30-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 835235)
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I totally agree with that statement. This is obviously still a work in progress. But it provides very useful information which would be very helpful to almost any horse player.

I hope you stick with this.

Paul

And you agree as well?

pweizer 01-30-2012 08:22 PM

Andy--NYRA is the gold standard when it comes to these shows. No doubt. But after you, what else is really out there?

Paul

GenuineRisk 01-30-2012 08:25 PM

Here's a link on capturing streaming video from the internet:

http://en.kioskea.net/faq/140-how-to...m-the-internet


In what application are you editing it and what are you using to record your voice? Built-in mic or a separate device?

I work freelance from home recording textbooks on mp3 so I might have some suggestions for improving the sound if I know what you're using to record yourself.

GenuineRisk 01-30-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 835183)
Yeah, that was pretty good detective work on your part :)

I asked before I checked the video.

You'd think with as much time as I took explaining bit torrents to him, he'd have figured out how to get either a cracked copy of it, or something better.

:D

DaTruth 01-30-2012 08:27 PM

You need a sidekick, although I don't think RHT1985 fits the bill. Having another handicapper on your broadcasts will make them seem to go faster for the viewer and gives you someone to bounce ideas off of.

blackthroatedwind 01-30-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 835265)
Andy--NYRA is the gold standard when it comes to these shows. No doubt. But after you, what else is really out there?

Paul

No argument, Paul, but she implied nobody was doing anything. I'm not big on blowing our own horn, but I take a little offense to being ignored in this particular situation.

pweizer 01-30-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 835272)
No argument, Paul, but she implied nobody was doing anything. I'm not big on blowing our own horn, but I take a little offense to being ignored in this particular situation.

I get it and this is an instance that you should be very proud of your work. Sadly, most tracks offer almost nothing in the way of useful information to their customers.

Paul


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