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if you left it its your fault, id do the same thing and cash the voucher or bet on it. Its just like if someone left some cash on the floor.

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Originally Posted by oracle80

I'm not a real superstitious guy but I firmly believe that stealing money or taking a voucher will bring you miles of bad karma. You will lose photos, get shut out of winners, etc.
At the track this past month I went to use a self serve machine near the racing office. There are little wooden ledges in front of these machines. On the ledge just sitting there was a wallet. Someone had obviously gotten out their wallet to get out their voucher and rested the wallet on the ledge and forgotten.
I took it up to security and lost and found which is WAY down at the other end of the grandstand. It was stuffed with cash. I made the security guy count the cash in front of me and take down my name and phone number and address. I also wrote down the name and address on the guys liscense in the wallet. Old guy, from Massachusetts.
This past Monday I got a letter in the mail from the guy who said he had freaked out completely and had bad moments while he realized his wallet was gone. He said he had credit cards and bank cards and personal memento photos and thought for sure at the racetrack of all places that he was screwed for sure. He couldn't believe that someone turned it in with the money still in it. He also included a 100 dollar gift certificate to a restaurant in town here because he said anyone honest enough to turn in that wallet would probably not accept cash.
Quite frankly the letter itself was what was worth reading. I once had a scumbag steal an 800 dollar voucher in an OTB on me. The feeling is so sickening that it can't even be described.
It will never do anyone any good to steal money at the track, I'm convinced it comes back to them in spades. Just wait Kev, one day that guy will be alive in a DD and really need the cash. His horse will get steadied one million times or he will be dq'd or he will lose an agonizing photo. Those folks are the lowest possible forms of life.

quit blowing smoke up our asses, just say you kept the cash

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

quit blowing smoke up our asses, just say you kept the cash

just because you're an attention needing s.o.b. doesn't mean the rest of the world is.

Nice try to ruffle some feathers though:eek:

yeah right, if I found that left somewhere im sure as hell taking it

The person who found the voucher is under no obligation to return the voucher to the owners. How does that person know it was really yours? Now if you went to report a lost voucher, the track people will tell you to keep it. Finder keeper, loser weeper.

Euro I disagree. He almost had to have known whose it was. Beyond that kev was asking if anyone had it. It's not finders keepers. Oh look, I found a car out in the parking lot with the keys in it, i might as well take it. Its the same thing. You certainly wouldn't steal a car so why would you steal someones money.

ouch...hopefully you hit a few good races this weekend to make it up.

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

A car has an ownership title to it. Therefore you can prove ownership at anytime. A voucher has no ownership record. Basically, if you pick up a voucher that it isnt yours, it is yours to keep. Kev should have been more careful. It sucks, but you cant always count on people (especially people at the track) to do the right thing.

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

if you left it its your fault, id do the same thing and cash the voucher or bet on it. Its just like if someone left some cash on the floor.

Perhaps that's because you're a scumbag. :D

lets not bull**** each other here, you find a 100 dollar bill on the street dont tell me you will not pick it up.

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

lets not bull**** each other here, you find a 100 dollar bill on the street dont tell me you will not pick it up.

Big difference. OBVIOUSLY, the person heard Kevin ranting and raving and wasn't honest. If I found $100 on the street, looked around and didn't see anyone frantically searching or saying that they lost $100, then hell yeah, it's mine. But that isn't the case here.

ok heres my stance, If i knew whos it was or if I heard someone causing and uproar id give it back, if it was just there I wouldnt turn it in or make an effort to return it.

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

ok heres my stance, If i knew whos it was or if I heard someone causing and uproar id give it back, if it was just there I wouldnt turn it in or make an effort to return it.

That didn't happen this time. We all know how Kev gets and I can only imagine just how LOUD he was about it. :p

About 2 weeks ago I went to lone star and while making a bet at tote machine I cashed out. I noticed about $70 more than I had. I lingered around the machine and looked for someone looking for the abandoned voucher. I returned to my seat and called the tote tech. Explained that I claimed voucher and pointed the machine out. I didnt tell the tech how much and didnt make a big to-do, Thinking if I made the anounce ment that there would be several that would be making the claim. At LS they can track the vouchers and stop the use of a lost voucher. Sure enough the tech returned with a patron that had all the right info and I returned the money. Later in the day I hit an almost $500 pk-3 and a $3000 pk 4. I feel the searching for the owner of the 70 buck voucher was the key to my nice day.

If I bet down where vouchers got stolen I would worry about it. If for some reason someone did get ahold of a voucher of mine and tried to cash it. I would find out who did it, and I would pay someone 500 to go break their nose

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

yeah right, if I found that left somewhere im sure as hell taking it

So you are basically just like the scum who took Kev's voucher, heard him yelling for it, and didn't return it.
Thats a great self endorsement Seattle.

lost vouchers and tracking voucher history

I was with my uncle on Derby Day. He was losing his battle with cancer and I gave him a $200 voucher. He went to make his first bet of the day. Came back with the $5 bet and left the rest on the machine. I went looking and I could see there was absolutely no way I was going to get a read on all these hoosiers. No one turned it in and they were too busy to help me.

Then there was a time I go to the auto tote and there is an extra voucher laying in the slot. I just old on to it. You yell out "anyone lose a voucher" and 6 of 'em will holer. I see this guy looking all over his table and in the machine. I ask, "what cha looking for?" He loudly says he lost a $100 voucher. Then quietly says $18. So I hand it over. Strange

But the strangest thing was when I stuck my winning ticket in the autotote and it paid $66. I tried going back to the machine and mak another bet with that voucher and it wouldn't work. I go to the manager and ask him hat is up with the system. This woman sitting next to the machine apparently saw what it paid and went to the manager and claimed that someone stole her voucher for $66 off her table. They were able to lock up my voucher until they did a history on it and found that it was from a winning ticket and not her table. Lying ****** Karma took care of her sorry **** I am sure

They have the ability to do a history on tickets.

if you can give them accurate information

damn this post! it made me have a conscience:( :) :D

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

damn this post! it made me have a conscience:( :) :D

Well Done, Grasshopper,lol!:D