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herkhorse 01-12-2012 10:30 AM

Linny gets another triple :tro:


actually a few of you had that one

my miss storm cat 01-12-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 830785)
R2) #1 Barbecue Eddie / #4 Ariete Arrollador - Alt: #6 Red Gulch

:tro:

Linny 01-12-2012 10:45 AM

But I nosed out of my EX by Kinglet:mad: Nice ride by Durcan to get Dark Matter through inside. he didn't look like he wanted to be in there but had no choice.

NoChanceToDance 01-12-2012 12:00 PM

I'm concerned about the form of the Suroor horses today. Rammas ran like he wasn't totally fit, and Mendip also looked very flat, Musir is a good horse, but \mendip appeared to have evrything in his fsvour today.

PatCummings 01-12-2012 12:18 PM

Re: Alkimos...

Now if only we could bet to lose...

PatCummings 01-12-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance (Post 830963)
I'm concerned about the form of the Suroor horses today. Rammas ran like he wasn't totally fit, and Mendip also looked very flat, Musir is a good horse, but \mendip appeared to have evrything in his fsvour today.

He didn't have a problem last week...

Arletta 01-12-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 830950)
:tro:

Thanks.. It started out good at least :)

NoChanceToDance 01-12-2012 04:58 PM

Fair play Pat, he ran too bad to be true. 104 still looks like a very good mark in my opinion. He just ran so flat, as did Red Gulch and Mendip. Just makes me wonder.

I still have no idea what Paul Hanagan was doing on Glen's Diamond today. Slowly run race, he pulled hard but was positioned well in third, but Hanagan thought the correct move was to smother him and drop him back to seventh at the most crucial stage of the race and then didn't have the pace to match the front two. I doubt the form of that race will hold up at all, and I'll be prepared to have a good go on Glen's Diamond if they meet again over the same distance.

PatCummings 01-12-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance (Post 831068)
Fair play Pat, he ran too bad to be true. 104 still looks like a very good mark in my opinion. He just ran so flat, as did Red Gulch and Mendip. Just makes me wonder.

I still have no idea what Paul Hanagan was doing on Glen's Diamond today. Slowly run race, he pulled hard but was positioned well in third, but Hanagan thought the correct move was to smother him and drop him back to seventh at the most crucial stage of the race and then didn't have the pace to match the front two. I doubt the form of that race will hold up at all, and I'll be prepared to have a good go on Glen's Diamond if they meet again over the same distance.

I'm with you...I backed Jedi and thought he'd be tracking someone else, and was initially fearful when I saw him on the lead, but then laughed hysterically when I heard the fractions and thought it would be possible. The Euro-jockey holdup syndrome is something else...see also, Mirco Demuro taking 12 of them to the woodshed last year.

clyde 01-12-2012 06:18 PM

Me too.

NoChanceToDance 01-12-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 831083)
I'm with you...I backed Jedi and thought he'd be tracking someone else, and was initially fearful when I saw him on the lead, but then laughed hysterically when I heard the fractions and thought it would be possible. The Euro-jockey holdup syndrome is something else...see also, Mirco Demuro taking 12 of them to the woodshed last year.

I didn't understand the pace of the races today, none were run at the usual gallop we can see in Dubai. It definitley paid to be on the speed today, with very few horses coming from far off the pace, apart from possibly Kinglet, who I think was probably the most eyecatching run of the day. For a horse who looked in need of every yard of a mile as a 2yo, dropping to seven furlongs on his 3yo debut on a new surface where the pace wasn't overly strong. Another few strides and he's won the race. The guineas is the obvious option, but I feel he'd be more suited to the UAE Derby, albeit that will be a stronger contest.

I was swearing at Hanagan during that race. I knew his chance had gone at halfway. Never given a chance. For a horse who connections have long said will stay well, why didn't they make it a good test of stamina. Especially when the fav (and winner) had never tried twelve furlongs before. I know, nor had Glen's, but he looked certain to improve with this extra distance. In the end the winner has had nothing more than a track gallop and the form shouldn't be trusted.

Mendip, well you can only say that was very very disappointing. He didn;t break with his usual fluency and was never travelling well enough to be ever called the likely winner. He might be set for a quiet year.

Alkimos........ I'm still scratching my head there. Surely, he's better than a 104 rated horse? on my figures I thought he was well worth a mark of 109-111.

ADJMK 01-13-2012 01:01 AM

Mendip, well you can only say that was very very disappointing. He didn;t break with his usual fluency and was never travelling well enough to be ever called the likely winner. He might be set for a quiet year.



Mendip was really hyper today in the paddock. I think he ran his race before getting in the gate. If he is calmer next time may be worth a bet back.

NoChanceToDance 01-13-2012 08:30 AM

He has always been an edgy individual, so I'm unsure if that made much of a difference. Given that Musir usually comes on for the run and Mendip is usually best when fresh. It'd be hard to see him reverse the placings this carnival.

PatCummings 01-13-2012 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance (Post 831164)
He has always been an edgy individual, so I'm unsure if that made much of a difference. Given that Musir usually comes on for the run and Mendip is usually best when fresh. It'd be hard to see him reverse the placings this carnival.

I think the biggest "we'll see" of the Carnival comes when Musir runs next. I trust de Kock's analysis immensely, so when he says...he needs one, he normally does. Honestly, that's why I didn't tip him up. So to see him win handy like that, I know the barn was surprised a bit. The interest comes next time and figuring out if he can put it together and show some degree of progression, because he really didn't last season in the UAE.

I thought Twice Over was impossible in the Maktoum Challenge R3 last year and he bolts home, only to do nothing close to that next time. Pop and stop, or slowly progress? We'll see.

brockguy 01-13-2012 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny (Post 830816)
And lasses, last time I looked...;)

I was using lads in the general sense :) :) :)

brockguy 01-13-2012 01:19 PM

Scores after Day 3

Linny extends HER lead with a brilliant nap of 16-1 shot Dark Matter and also getting the exacta in the first race. Arletta also had some nice scores and Clyde has made a very solid start in Dubai (and welcome to the other new players!!) Hopefully we can get a few more!!

results etc can be found here:
http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/re...012-01-12#1231

Rank Player This Week Running Total
1 Linny 1795.25 3,188.75

2 Arletta 1279.6 1,853.10
3 mclem0822 860 1,343.45
4 PatCummings 620.65 1,274.15
5 clyde 980 980
6 jaripeo 0 950.00
7 ryonker1 0 838.50
8 NoChanceToDance 485.25 485.25
9 gamblin4ever 0 400.00
10 my miss storm cat 130 130
11 brockguy 0 80.00
12 The Bart 0 0

mclem0822 01-13-2012 01:47 PM

Thanks for the update Brock, and your continued efforts. Good Luck rest of the way.

clyde 01-13-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 831209)
Scores after Day 3

Linny extends HER lead with a brilliant nap of 16-1 shot Dark Matter and also getting the exacta in the first race. Arletta also had some nice scores and Clyde has made a very solid start in Dubai (and welcome to the other new players!!) Hopefully we can get a few more!!

results etc can be found here:
http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/re...012-01-12#1231

Rank Player This Week Running Total
1 Linny 1795.25 3,188.75

2 Arletta 1279.6 1,853.10
3 mclem0822 860 1,343.45
4 PatCummings 620.65 1,274.15
5 clyde 980 980
6 jaripeo 0 950.00
7 ryonker1 0 838.50
8 NoChanceToDance 485.25 485.25
9 gamblin4ever 0 400.00
10 my miss storm cat 130 130
11 brockguy 0 80.00
12 The Bart 0 0




tysm



ily!!

brockguy 01-13-2012 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 831220)
Thanks for the update Brock, and your continued efforts. Good Luck rest of the way.

Thanks man, havent really got a chance to give Dubai a real good go this season, and considering Ill be heading there in March for the big one, I should, but unfortunately, the day job is getting in the way :( but the scores will always be updated (at some point :))

PatCummings 01-13-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 831209)
Scores after Day 3

Linny extends HER lead with a brilliant nap of 16-1 shot Dark Matter and also getting the exacta in the first race. Arletta also had some nice scores and Clyde has made a very solid start in Dubai (and welcome to the other new players!!) Hopefully we can get a few more!!

results etc can be found here:
http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/re...012-01-12#1231

Rank Player This Week Running Total
1 Linny 1795.25 3,188.75

2 Arletta 1279.6 1,853.10
3 mclem0822 860 1,343.45
4 PatCummings 620.65 1,274.15
5 clyde 980 980
6 jaripeo 0 950.00
7 ryonker1 0 838.50
8 NoChanceToDance 485.25 485.25
9 gamblin4ever 0 400.00
10 my miss storm cat 130 130
11 brockguy 0 80.00
12 The Bart 0 0

There were some massive differences in US and UK pools this week. Dark Matter was 5-1 in the US, BBQ Eddie was 4-1, Master of Hounds 5-1, Belgian Bill 25-1


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