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Nostradamus 09-14-2006 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Thanks...I know the Douglas MacAurthur was scheduled for opening day at Belmont, as it always is. I also know that it is not an " overnight " stake. The race I am referring to was run at Saratoga, the track you claimed the Woodward was the only race for Funny Cide, and I pointed out that the overnight stake, at SARATOGA, was another, and more realistic, option.

If Funny Cide ran in the race at Saratoga that he belonged in, the overnight stake and not the Woodward where he had no chance, he would have been a big favorite and probably would have won. So what if he lost. It isn't as though anybody actually considers him a top horse anymore. The idea in placing horses is to find spots that if they run their best races they can win. If he ran the best race he is capable of NOW in the Woodward he might have been fifth.
The owners chose the Woodward and had their Funny Cide day. Everyone knows that. Tagg chose this race with the Empire Classic in mind on October 21. The owners had the Hawthorne race in mind. They still do according to the Funny Cide website. This race gives him plenty of time and a race on the track at the same distance, with 5 weeks rest for the race.

blackthroatedwind 09-14-2006 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
The owners chose the Woodward and had their Funny Cide day. Everyone knows that. Tagg chose this race with the Empire Classic in mind on October 21. The owners had the Hawthorne race in mind. They still do according to the Funny Cide website. This race gives him plenty of time and a race on the track at the same distance, with 5 weeks rest for the race.

You said the Woodward was the only race for him at Saratoga. I pointed out why what YOU SAID was incorrect.

The simple fact is that the connections of Funny Cide are determined to run him over his head because they refuse to admit that he isn't that good anymore. If they were concerned with what was best for the horse then he would have run in the overnight stake. Regardless, I was simply pointing out the inaccuracy of your post. There was a race for him at Saratoga besides the Woodward.

By the way....still plenty of Funny Cide posters left.

Nostradamus 09-14-2006 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You said the Woodward was the only race for him at Saratoga. I pointed out why what YOU SAID was incorrect.

The simple fact is that the connections of Funny Cide are determined to run him over his head because they refuse to admit that he isn't that good anymore. If they were concerned with what was best for the horse then he would have run in the overnight stake. Regardless, I was simply pointing out the inaccuracy of your post. There was a race for him at Saratoga besides the Woodward.

By the way....still plenty of Funny Cide posters left.
No, the owners, not the connections, are determined to run him over his head. The trainer has said publicly that he is not a grade 1 horse. The Woodward was the only race because the owners wanted to run him in a big race and the Whitney was much more competitive. They had 10,000 posters to hand out and wanted him to run in a big race at Saratoga before he was done. Nothing wrong with that. People forget this horse has two good wins already this year. One a graded stake.

blackthroatedwind 09-14-2006 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
No, the owners, not the connections, are determined to run him over his head. The trainer has said publicly that he is not a grade 1 horse. The Woodward was the only race because the owners wanted to run him in a big race and the Whitney was much more competitive. They had 10,000 posters to hand out and wanted him to run in a big race at Saratoga before he was done. Nothing wrong with that. People forget this horse has two good wins already this year. One a graded stake.
I do think there is something wrong with running the horse in a completely impossible spot. He's not a 4YO unneutered horse who can greatly increase his value with a win, or even placing, he is a 6YO gelding. The simple fact is that whoever decided to run him there did the wrong thing by the horse. Simple as that.

Thus, I would say I strongly disagree with your " nothing wrong with that " comment.

letswastemoney 09-15-2006 01:33 AM
How does anyone really know that Funny Cide is going in the Empire Classic? Has it been stated anywhere by Tagg that it's their goal after the Brooklyn?? I'm not saying he won't go in the race but unless someone has a link of a direct quote.....

letswastemoney 09-15-2006 01:36 AM
Oh and I still think it's strange that there still is so much anger over Funny Cide in the Brooklyn.......when Naughty New Yorker got wheeled back even faster after being a well beaten 9th in the Woodward. If they say FC is healthy then he's healthy. No use making a million posts about something you cannot change!!:cool:

mclem10011 09-15-2006 07:21 AM
I will take........
 
Wanderin Boy, just anoth hunch, like my one with Premium Tap, which like a nut I didn't bet on! Anyone have any advice for today's card at Belmont? I took last weekend off, to recharge my batteries, and watch some football. Any track bias that you all have noticed, or other trends to take into account with my selections today? Thanks in advance, and good luck to you all this weekend! Take care!:rolleyes

gallant bloom 09-16-2006 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Sorry to interrupt.....

Maybe We Can Seek can (finally) get another win. It's been a while and he owes me quite a bit at this point.....

Multiple Group 1 winner, 3YO colt of the year (turf)..... a nice horse who might just remember how to win.
he's my
pick too
but i'll be
happy if
fc wins.

Bold Brooklynite 09-16-2006 11:07 AM
Reverberate should be about ready to run his best race.

I don't know how good that will be ... but whatever he's got ... we should see it today.

Revolution 09-16-2006 11:11 AM
i looked at this last night and good reward is my choice. funny cide might be a play in the trifectas.

Dunbar 09-16-2006 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution
i looked at this last night and good reward is my choice. funny cide might be a play in the trifectas.
Good Reward deserves to be a solid fav, IMO. I like the change to Cornelio on FC.

--Dunbar

sumitas 09-16-2006 03:23 PM
my tix are FC to win place
cold exacta FC over Awesome Twisteroo

sumitas 09-16-2006 04:12 PM
i like the way the odds are looking...ah well, the heavy fav won.

SniperSB23 09-16-2006 04:22 PM
Not a bad race for Funny. Made a move around the turn before he faded but then fought back at the end to grab 4th. Another check earned. Hopefully that sets him up for the Empire Classic. How many other stakes horses have run 9 times this year?

sumitas 09-16-2006 04:37 PM
FC dug in and ran a full 9F. Good effort and he was rewarded with $8k.

Bold Brooklynite 09-16-2006 04:43 PM
This is about as good as it gets for Funny Cide these days ...

... plug along gamely in a fake G2 ... and pick up the chump change in a 6-horse field.

Good for him though ... he's doing his best to maintain his dignity ... while getting precious little help from his human connections.

ArlJim78 09-16-2006 04:52 PM
I don't know how good it was for FC. He was third on the turn when Corny put him into a prolonged full on drive. He was never a threat to the leader and managed to get a fourth place check. Considering the strength of this field, isn't that a fairly minor achievement? For me I think he deserves better than to be whipped 25 times to pick up a fourth place check.

eurobounce 09-16-2006 05:22 PM
He didnt look all that bad. He ran the best race he could. Another check is all that matter to these owners. I really do not believe they are interested in winning or doing what is best for Funny Cide.

Nostradamus 09-16-2006 05:24 PM
I thought he ran ok. The time for the winner was pretty good. Funny Cide should be very competitive in that $250,000 Empire Classic.


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