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sumitas 09-11-2006 08:24 PM

Interresting to see what some bought. Lael bought hip 17, Empire Maker/Lucky Soph filly. It is basically the Fappaino.Caro cross of Unbridled's Song fame. Very nicely bred girl. $375k. 143, Deputy Minister/Antics colt $200k, a little heavy on the Native Dancer and Raise A Native.

Becky Thomas 109 Distorted Humor/Sweet Serendipity(1/2 to Anees) colt, $225k. The pedigree is a carbon copy of a lot of Raise A Native/Northern Dancer/Native Dancer crosses out there. But it can be successful on the track for a short time.

Sightseek 09-11-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
*Note:

I'm not the greatest sales prospect evaluator on earth and these are just opinions on the ones I liked...If this interests you, I would suggest writing down the dam's names and researching these babies' names early next year before they are about to start their racing careers...Obviously, they are all '05 models and can be researched to keep up with if you have the right resources....I really enjoy doing this after the Keeneland Sept. sale every year and I find it fun and intriguing to see how right I am as far as their ability when and if they ever race....Plus, it may give you something to wager on when each of these horses debuts, especially the ones I thought were sleepers!

I'll tell you this, I've actually had relativey good success since doing this for fun....For example, last year I thought Scat Daddy, who Pletcher bought two rows in front of me with some lady at the end of day 1 last year, was one of the top 5 individuals in the first session of the sale, and he turned out to be one of the top juvenile runners this year as only a $250,000 purchase underneath 40+ seven-figure lots to go through the ring last year.....Take it for what its worth...obviously, I've picked out some horses that never made it to the track too, just like everybody else... :)

I did the same thing last year, thus far of "my" 5 starters I had several first time out winners (and got to cash on them too! :D )

Moccasin Gap f. Giant's Causeway - Lemon Dove - won at first asking at Woodbine

Divide and Conquer c. Mr. Greeley - Diversion - won at first asking at Hollywood

Most Distinguished c. Dixie Union - Stylish Storm - 2nd to Pegasus Wind when he broke his maiden at Saratoga, had a real dog fight in his second start, getting 2nd

Kauai Calls f. Fupeg - Collect Call - broke maiden at first asking at Saratoga also took an allowance later in the meet

thirtysixth f. Dixieland Band - Steal a Heart - 3rd in first start, bought by Zayat

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I am eagerly awaiting:
Indy's Windy f. A.P. Indy - Banshee Winds - sold for 1.9M, training in CA...I would have given my right arm to own this filly!

Shining Armor c. Mr. Greeley - Shining Through (dam of the talented and ill-fated Venetian Sunset & Strong Hope)


As for me, I really like Mr. Greeley as a sire. I think his biggest problem IS his auction prices...he's not very commercial but he will get you a runner. If I were buying for myself I'd find me the best Mr. Greeley or Dixie Union I could afford. Well priced runners.

Betsy 09-11-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That's good to hear. I'm glad he got a good book. Did you see what Bernardini's exercise rider said today?

What did Simon Harris say? Thanks!

sumitas 09-11-2006 08:45 PM

Simon Says :eek:

pgardn 09-11-2006 08:47 PM

Simon says this is like a bad junk bond sales.

Unbelievable that folks buy horses for this kind of money that have not stepped on a track.

But let the market ride. Good ole America. Ill never get it.

Betsy 09-11-2006 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Exercise rider says Bernardini getting better

If you thought Bernardini was impressive winning the Jim Dandy and Travers this summer, exercise rider Simon Harris believes you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Harris only gets on Bernardini when he has timed workouts. On Sunday, Harris guided Bernardini through a five-furlong breeze in 1:01.68 over Belmont Park's main track. It was Bernardini's first breeze since he won the Travers by 7 1/2 lengths on Aug. 26.

"I don't want to jinx him, but he feels like he's getting better and better," Harris said Sunday. "Straight up, he does. He feels stronger to me. I don't think we've seen the best of this horse yet."

Bernardini will likely breeze every six days as he leads up to his showdown with multiple Grade 1 winner Invasor in the $750,000 Jockey Club Gold Cup here on Oct. 7.

Thanks, Da Hoss, I hadn't read that. Tom said that Bernardini's recent work was just as good, if not better, than any of his others (or something like that), so this colt (scary as it seems) is getting better. Oct. 7th can't come soon enough for me.

sumitas 09-11-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Simon says this is like a bad junk bond sales.

Unbelievable that folks buy horses for this kind of money that have not stepped on a track.

But let the market ride. Good ole America. Ill never get it.

Simon Says, start the printing presses. Just $1,000 bills this hour. :D

Cunningham Racing 09-11-2006 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
That's good to hear. I'm glad he got a good book. Did you see what Bernardini's exercise rider said today?

No, waht did he say? I know Albertrani liked his work today and said that it was one of his best works to date, but what did the jock say?

Cunningham Racing 09-11-2006 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I did the same thing last year, thus far of "my" 5 starters I had several first time out winners (and got to cash on them too! :D )

Moccasin Gap f. Giant's Causeway - Lemon Dove - won at first asking at Woodbine

Divide and Conquer c. Mr. Greeley - Diversion - won at first asking at Hollywood

Most Distinguished c. Dixie Union - Stylish Storm - 2nd to Pegasus Wind when he broke his maiden at Saratoga, had a real dog fight in his second start, getting 2nd

Kauai Calls f. Fupeg - Collect Call - broke maiden at first asking at Saratoga also took an allowance later in the meet

thirtysixth f. Dixieland Band - Steal a Heart - 3rd in first start, bought by Zayat

*******
I am eagerly awaiting:
Indy's Windy f. A.P. Indy - Banshee Winds - sold for 1.9M, training in CA...I would have given my right arm to own this filly!

Shining Armor c. Mr. Greeley - Shining Through (dam of the talented and ill-fated Venetian Sunset & Strong Hope)


As for me, I really like Mr. Greeley as a sire. I think his biggest problem IS his auction prices...he's not very commercial but he will get you a runner. If I were buying for myself I'd find me the best Mr. Greeley or Dixie Union I could afford. Well priced runners.

I've seen the full to Indy Storm...she is nice, but he was a nice looking horse - just a big ole plodder when the smoke cleared....I think she'll be mich better than him obviously....

Cunningham Racing 09-11-2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
Thanks, Da Hoss, I hadn't read that. Tom said that Bernardini's recent work was just as good, if not better, than any of his others (or something like that), so this colt (scary as it seems) is getting better. Oct. 7th can't come soon enough for me.

November 4th can't come fast enough for me, I've got 15-1 on him to win the BC Classic!!! (after his Preakness win) :D

jpops757 09-11-2006 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
The Storm Cat session topper out of Awesome Humor was gorgeous, which goes without saying, but I thought he was better than the Tranquility Lake baby last year.....I wasn't a great fan of Awesome Humor but remember her vividly when Ronnie Werner had her ..she was actually a smaller more refined tyoe of filly and was actually a very cheap auction purchase when Mr. Durant bought her...

I was impressed with her baby.....very nice..

Tom very seldom shells out the Big money. Usually goes for several less than 100k with a few flaws trying to find a runner. Tjink he has backed of the realy nice ones since Werner left. He is trying to upgrade the State breds here in Texas. What did he do with Touch Tone? he was probably his best one. Took him to NY and ran 2nd on the Belmont undercard 3-4 years ago.

Sightseek 09-12-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
I've seen the full to Indy Storm...she is nice, but he was a nice looking horse - just a big ole plodder when the smoke cleared....I think she'll be mich better than him obviously....

Indys Windy's workouts are pretty poor and it looks like they backed off her within the last week or so....:(

slotdirt 09-12-2006 07:50 AM

What happened to the I'll Get Along filly?

Sightseek 09-12-2006 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
What happened to the I'll Get Along filly?

They had to practically bribe someone to buy her....

Sightseek 09-12-2006 08:31 AM

Interesting Hips to me today:

256 - f. Deputy Minister - Litany (family of Sightseek)

263 - c. Dynaformer - Mambo Jambo (sister to Divine Proportions)

359 - c. Storm Cat - Victory Ride (Magical Ride is looking fairly brilliant)

363 - f. Storm Cat - Welcome Surprise

430 - c. Mineshaft - Dear Birdie

434 - c. Giant's Causeway - Dissemble (dam of Leroidanimaux)

slotdirt 09-12-2006 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
They had to practically bribe someone to buy her....

Really? How much did she end up going for? That ain't right.

slotdirt 09-12-2006 08:44 AM

Man, you guys act like $295k is a pittance for a horse. I guarantee you at some point she'll be more valuable than that if only as a broodmare.


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