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dellinger63 09-20-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807752)
If you think I'm a Socialist, you're even more clueless about what the word means than I thought :D

Clueless? :eek:

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The Socialist Party is committed to full freedom of speech, assembly, press, and religion, and to a multi-party system. We are dedicated to the abolition of male supremacy and class society, and to the elimination of all forms of oppression, including those based on race, national origin, age, sexual preferences, and disabling conditions.

The primary goal of economic activity is to provide the necessities of life, including food, shelter, health care, education, child care, cultural opportunities, and social services.

These social services include care for the chronically ill, persons with mental disabilities, the infirm and the aging. Planning takes place at the community, regional, and national levels, and is determined democratically with the input of workers, consumers, and the public to be served.

Under welfare capitalism, a reserve pool of people is kept undereducated, under-skilled and unemployed, largely along racial and gender lines, to exert pressure on those who are employed and on organized labor. The employed pay for this knife that capitalism holds to their throats by being taxed to fund welfare programs to maintain the unemployed and their children. In this way the working class is divided against itself; those with jobs and those without are separated by resentment and fear. In socialism, full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work.

A socialist society carefully plans its way of life and technology to be a harmonious part of our natural environment. This planning takes place on regional, national, and international levels and covers the production of energy, the use of scarce resources, land-use planning, the prevention of pollution and the preservation of wildlife. The cleanup of the contaminated environment and the creation of a nuclear-free world are among the first tasks of a socialist society.
Your holy grail! What above do you not agree with/believe in?

All of it, a majority, a minority or none will suffice as an answer.

A shrink would charge hundreds for what I have just given to you for free.

BTW Great work lately! Love watching implosions.

Riot 09-20-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807936)
Clueless? :eek:

Your holy grail! What above do you not agree with/believe in?

This part: you know, the very definition, that comes before all you wrote, above: Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or a political philosophy advocating such a system.

Again: if you think I'm a Socialist, you're even more clueless about what the word means than I thought. A seventh-grade teacher would have made you sit through a history class for what I've just given you for free. Oh, wait - you've supported firing all the evil teachers. That must explain why you couldn't manage to even quote the definition of socialism when required, even using google.

Riot 09-20-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 807934)
that's just it, i didn't take offense. i just found it ironic that you, who call others out all the time whether they actually said anything offensive or not, turns around and engages in that behavior...again.

Glad you so clearly see all the ironies involved :tro: Like the one where you hold me to a standard I've never said I met. Ironic, huh?

dellinger63 09-20-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807967)
This part: you know, the very definition, that comes before all you wrote, above: Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or a political philosophy advocating such a system.

It's OK you're not lost unless/until you look up. LMAO

Riot 09-20-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807975)
It's OK you're not lost unless/until you look up. LMAO

Your laughing your ass off that you don't know the definition of socialism? Or trying to cover up for the fact that you are completely wrong, that in no way do I or have I ever advocated an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively - and you know it.

See, I really don't see why you being stupid and silly and wrongly calling me a socialist, while you clearly don't have a clue what a "socialist" is, requires me to be insulted. LMAO, but it's at your ignorance.

clyde 09-20-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807982)
Your laughing your ass off that you don't know the definition of socialism? Or trying to cover up for the fact that you are completely wrong, that in no way do I or have I ever advocated an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively - and you know it.

See, I really don't see why you being stupid and silly and wrongly calling me a socialist, while you clearly don't have a clue what a "socialist" is, requires me to be insulted. LMAO, but it's at your ignorance.

Rita....go check the metahs.



Do your job.

dellinger63 09-20-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807982)
Your laughing your ass off that you don't know the definition of socialism? Or trying to cover up for the fact that you are completely wrong, that in no way do I or have I ever advocated an economic system in which the means of production are either state owned or commonly owned and controlled cooperatively - and you know it.

See, I really don't see why you being stupid and silly and wrongly calling me a socialist, while you clearly don't have a clue what a "socialist" is, requires me to be insulted. LMAO, but it's at your ignorance.

When you look up you'll realize you've advocated virtually every government intervention into private business, whether it be economic or by regulation control, ever created by this President, no matter how delusional it may be while at the same time dismissing any attempt at privatization of anything government as an assault on the common man.

Which of the many state intrusions into private business by Obama did you object to?

Riot 09-20-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807991)
When you look up you'll realize you've advocated virtually every government intervention into private business, whether it be economic or by regulation control, ever created by this President

Really? Which ones, specifically? List them for me.

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Which of the many state intrusions into private business by Obama did you object to?
:D You just said you knew that. I guess you don't know that? So why did you say you did?

LOL - Dell, you are such a loser. You do the above all the time. You make definitive statements about people, then you demand they justify your opinion. You're completely intellectually lazy.

BTW: please point out which "interventions into private business" meet the definition of socialism. Do it for Obama, Bush and Carter. Show us how much you know about socialism, buddy :D

I think you'd better stick to hating Muslims, Dell, rather than demanding that other posters prove to you that they are your uneducated definition of a socialist.

Danzig 09-20-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807968)
Glad you so clearly see all the ironies involved :tro: Like the one where you hold me to a standard I've never said I met. Ironic, huh?

yeah, all those times you've taken people to task for insults and telling them to keep it clean. you evidently hold others to a higher standard than yourself. good for you.

clyde 09-20-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 808004)
yeah, all those times you've taken people to task for insults and telling them to keep it clean. you evidently hold others to a higher standard than yourself. good for you.


DANNY!!

You vicious beast!

"Be impeccable with your word. Speak with integrity."

Riot 09-20-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 808004)
yeah, all those times you've taken people to task for insults and telling them to keep it clean. you evidently hold others to a higher standard than yourself. good for you.

Excuse me, I've never pretended I hold to some higher standard. You're the one setting standards around here, and telling me what standards I hold.

Apparently you're mistaken.

clyde 09-20-2011 05:47 PM

Rita:

"Be impeccable with your word. Speak with integrity."



Stop lying.

Danzig 09-20-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 808013)
Excuse me, I've never pretended I hold to some higher standard. You're the one setting standards around here, and telling me what standards I hold.

Apparently you're mistaken.

not true. in the past you've yelped to the high heavens about name calling while proclaiming your innocence in that regard. i think in the past your justification was something along the lines of 'they started it'. you still call out others for 'insulting' you. but hey, if you've decided now that you're not going to dish it out AND take it, yippee for riot.

Riot 09-20-2011 10:15 PM

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not true. in the past you've yelped to the high heavens about name calling while proclaiming your innocence in that regard.
but hey, if you've decided now that you're not going to dish it out AND take it, yippee for riot.
LOL - what an absurd statement. No, I don't care to "take it" any more, thanks. So I'll dish whatever the hell I feel like.

clyde 09-21-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 808046)
LOL - what an absurd statement. No, I don't care to "take it" any more, thanks. So I'll dish whatever the hell I feel like.


Rita,you are losing your imeccables and integrity's.

Danny..."yippee Riot" sounds like something out of Mother Mooses Tertiary Crimes.




Stevie,goddamity.....stick Rita in NA along with Tits and Cracklin' Rose.I'm sure you can talk Mr. NA into confining the 3 of them in one thread where they can live in their own image.

Cannon Shell 09-21-2011 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 808046)
LOL - what an absurd statement. No, I don't care to "take it" any more, thanks. So I'll dish whatever the hell I feel like.

What is laughable is when someone posts something that discredits what you have posted, you take that as a personal insult and feel free to use one of three standard Riot responses

1. "Strawman"
2. "Stop twisting what I said"
3. "Stop attacking me/you are a jackass/random personal attack"

Clip-Clop 09-21-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 808106)
What is laughable is when someone posts something that discredits what you have posted, you take that as a personal insult and feel free to use one of three standard Riot responses

1. "Strawman"
2. "Stop twisting what I said"
3. "Stop attacking me/you are a jackass/random personal attack"

4. "Talking points"
It was this one that made me stop debating here altogether.

wiphan 09-21-2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 808106)
What is laughable is when someone posts something that discredits what you have posted, you take that as a personal insult and feel free to use one of three standard Riot responses

1. "Strawman"
2. "Stop twisting what I said"
3. "Stop attacking me/you are a jackass/random personal attack"

There NEVER is an admission of guilt or being wrong. This is the #1 cry of the democratic party. When you are wrong dig your heels in further and spin it however you like then blame someone else (i.e. Bush, congress, GOP, etc). Even when Riot was black and white wrong on an issue she could not admit it and tried to continue to spin it.

Riot 09-21-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 808106)
What is laughable is when someone posts something that discredits what you have posted, you take that as a personal insult and feel free to use one of three standard Riot responses

LOL - oh, please. I wish you would post something about politics. You get the "three standard Riot responses" because that's exactly what you do: change the subject, start making personal comments, or outright lie about what was said.

Start with your post #22. You post one sentence about politics, then go right into personal crap. LOL - I dare you to post only about politics without snarky personal attacks. I doubt you can do it. You've never been able to do it to date.

Riot 09-21-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wiphan (Post 808125)
There NEVER is an admission of guilt or being wrong. This is the #1 cry of the democratic party. When you are wrong dig your heels in further and spin it however you like then blame someone else (i.e. Bush, congress, GOP, etc). Even when Riot was black and white wrong on an issue she could not admit it and tried to continue to spin it.

Really? Which issue was that? Disagreeing with your politics? That's sort of the #1 cry of conservatives: when the facts show your governor to be a liar, dig in your heels and accuse the other side of "being wrong" and "refusing to admit they are wrong" - LOL

I dare you to talk only about politics here, and stop being nasty, insulting, personal. You can't do it, either.


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