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Danzig 07-14-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 791193)
The bad news is you owe more to the credit card company than you will ever be able to repay, and your children, and your children's children for as many generations as it will take are on the hook for the bill.

The good news is you have a AAA credit rating! :confused:

our economy is partly based on this countrys credit rating. i figured you knew that.

joeydb 07-14-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 791242)
our economy is partly based on this countrys credit rating. i figured you knew that.

I do know that. But when you hear "raise the debt limit and protect the credit rating", you still have all this debt and we need to really start paying it back, which will never happen as long as we keep borrowing.

Danzig 07-14-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 791259)
I do know that. But when you hear "raise the debt limit and protect the credit rating", you still have all this debt and we need to really start paying it back, which will never happen as long as we keep borrowing.

yeah, we need to fix the borrowing-but we can't default, which would be an awful result of the stupidity in washington.

clyde 07-14-2011 07:27 PM

Riot..you know I kid, right?


Oh come on...so do you have pretty legs or not?

I think all libtards should be shot, but not if they have pretty legs.

hi_im_god 07-14-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 791294)
Riot..you know I kid, right?


Oh come on...so do you have pretty legs or not?

I think all libtards should be shot, but not if they have pretty legs.

:mad:
:tro:

mine aren't bad. i ride and hike.

i'm a little worried the pound and a half of hair on each will be a deal breaker, though. at least i really hope it is.

still looking for an out from getting shot.

clyde 07-14-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 791300)
:mad:
:tro:

mine aren't bad. i ride and hike.

i'm a little worried the pound and a half of hair on each will be a deal breaker, though. at least i really hope it is.

still looking for an out from getting shot.


rolling and laughing!!!!








To tell the truth..I would shoot all the neo Nazis as well.

Riot 07-14-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 791259)
I do know that. But when you hear "raise the debt limit and protect the credit rating", you still have all this debt and we need to really start paying it back, which will never happen as long as we keep borrowing.

We can pay it back, but not if we allow default. Default will send our interest rates on the debt we already have skyrocketing. Then we'll never be able to pay it back.

Coach Pants 07-15-2011 04:55 AM

I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

joeydb 07-15-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 791314)
We can pay it back, but not if we allow default. Default will send our interest rates on the debt we already have skyrocketing. Then we'll never be able to pay it back.

OK, that sounds reasonable. And nobody actually WANTS a default, but then the president and the Democrats do need to allow serious cuts in spending. If you can cut the spending enough to actually start paying the (net) debt back, then raising the debt limit in the interim by a small amount seems like a good idea.

Both sides are playing chicken. "No cuts in 'benefits' for entitlements" and "Not raising the debt limit no matter what" are irreconcilable positions.

Danzig 07-15-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 791395)
I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

yeah, anyone who bought that has to be feeling a bit jaded. more of the same old same old.

Danzig 07-15-2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 791402)
OK, that sounds reasonable. And nobody actually WANTS a default, but then the president and the Democrats do need to allow serious cuts in spending. If you can cut the spending enough to actually start paying the (net) debt back, then raising the debt limit in the interim by a small amount seems like a good idea.

Both sides are playing chicken. "No cuts in 'benefits' for entitlements" and "Not raising the debt limit no matter what" are irreconcilable positions.

the reps have already said more than once that they won't let us default-that the ceiling will be raised. they're just trying to force some cuts at the same time, which isn't a bad thing. but they won't force too much, as they don't want to do anything that they can't pick on obama about later. they'll only get a certain amount cut, and then the party will say they wanted more, but obama is a tax and spender...but vote for our guy, and we'd have cut this much.

Coach Pants 07-15-2011 07:56 AM

MSM wants Cantor to take the fall for this one. I'm hoping the Orange takes the fall.

Danzig 07-15-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 791395)
I thought hope and change was? Empty slogans 4tw.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/07/14...consideration/

Administration asks court to reconsider 'don't ask, don't tell' order

From Bill Mears, CNN Supreme Court Producer
July 15, 2011 -- Updated 0145 GMT (0945 HKT)

Washington (CNN) -- The Obama administration Thursday evening asked a federal appeals court in California to reconsider its order last week temporarily blocking the U.S. military from enforcing its "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays and lesbians serving in the military.
U.S. officials have been moving ahead with dismantling the policy but had objected to having the courts force the government to officially repeal it at this time.


further down:


Log Cabin Republicans slammed the administration's newest court action. "This latest maneuver by the President continues a pattern of doublespeak that all Americans should find troubling. All this does is further confuse the situation for our men and women in uniform," said R. Clarke Cooper, the group's executive director, who is also a captain in the Army Reserve.

"'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is an offense to American values that should have been gone long ago. It is shameful that a president who has taken credit for opposing the policy is taking extreme measures to keep it on life support."

dellinger63 07-15-2011 11:24 AM

Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything.

The U.S. has lost its identity of independence and equality to reliance and entitlement. The pursuit of happiness should in no way be subsidized.

lord007 07-15-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 791473)
Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything.

The U.S. has lost its identity of independence and equality to reliance and entitlement. The pursuit of happiness should in no way be subsidized.

How many times has he said corporate jet owners now???

dellinger63 07-15-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lord007 (Post 791479)
How many times has he said corporate jet owners now???

He hasn't a clue. Who builds, flies, maintains and manages corporate jets?

Billionaires? Didn't think so!

Riot 07-15-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 791473)
Obama made it very clear today he is not into cutting anything.

:zz: Didn't watch it?

Riot 07-15-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 791413)
yeah, anyone who bought that has to be feeling a bit jaded. more of the same old same old.

Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.

clyde 07-15-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 791505)
Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Obama.

Especially compared to the Mad Max full-depression third-world wasteland we'd be living in under McCain-Palin.


Also enjoys long finger nails screeching across a black slate board as well as sticking her nipples in industrial strength vises.

dellinger63 07-15-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 791504)
:zz: Didn't watch it?

I did that's how I know instead of proposing cuts he gave excuses why we can't.


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