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pointman 06-13-2011 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 784267)
Rich Migliore was rather definitive today on ATR about the video evidence showing Maragh's intent and completely supported Velazquez and his justifiable anger over the ridiculously dangerous and amateurish action. Hour 2. As I mentioned today, there is a Jerry Bailey corollary to this incident.

Meanwhile, all the focus on this incident has overshadowed the day's earlier jockey hijinx which saw David Cohen (Not Now Ashley) nearly send Javier Castellano over the rail on Crushing in the 2nd race. Castellano checked up repeatedly before drawing nearly even inside Not Now Ashley before Cohen abruptly shut him off. Castellano and Chad Brown were none too pleased, and Brown was already unhappy with Castellano's choices last week on firster Self Control. Will be interested to see if Cohen gets a benching for his stunt.
Unfortunately I did not get to hear this until my ride home from work due to the Sirius changes. Mig was terrific in his explanation and separation between fact and opinion. Mig's conclusion is wholly warranted and, unlike others on this board, supported with circumstantial factual evidence. Great work with this issue today Steve!

randallscott35 06-13-2011 08:56 PM
How about Bailey using Eddington like a piece of meat in the Belmont? Jerry is just a bad guy. Shame no one realized it.

Revidere 06-13-2011 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 784267)
Rich Migliore was rather definitive today on ATR about the video evidence showing Maragh's intent and completely supported Velazquez and his justifiable anger over the ridiculously dangerous and amateurish action. Hour 2. As I mentioned today, there is a Jerry Bailey corollary to this situation.
Interesting take by Mig on this. If you remember back in 1981 Angel purposely herded a horse Rich was on for Bob Debonis leaving the gate because Angel felt the new kid was getting too much praise. What made matters worse was Cordero just about trumpeted that he would do it. I would love to hear if Rich remembers that incident.

Riot 06-13-2011 10:32 PM
So after Johnny V. has completely dissed the NY stewards by attempting to circumvent them, and get his case tried in the press, what are the odds he'll get any consideration from them Wednesday?

Dahoss 06-13-2011 10:48 PM
Anyone else get a laugh reading this continued nonsense and then the signature following it?

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784272)
How about Bailey using Eddington like a piece of meat in the Belmont? Jerry is just a bad guy. Shame no one realized it.
who's no one? lots of people realized it I believe.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784312)
who's no one? lots of people realized it I believe.
Few. Very few. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones....Maybe.

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784314)
Few. Very few. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones....Maybe.
I would hear it discussed when I used to spend a lot of time in New York & I agreed with them... I'm sure more than a few on this board realized it also.

randallscott35 06-14-2011 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 784315)
I would hear it discussed when I used to spend a lot of time in New York & I agreed with them... I'm sure more than a few on this board realized it also.
He surely drowns kittens when no one is looking.

Antitrust32 06-14-2011 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784316)
He surely drowns kittens when no one is looking.
lol, I wouldnt go that far!!

Riot 06-14-2011 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 784292)
Anyone else get a laugh reading this continued nonsense and then the signature following it?
You've repeatedly referred to that quote in odd context. I think you need a dictionary.

iamthelurker 06-14-2011 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784289)
So after Johnny V. has completely dissed the NY stewards by attempting to circumvent them, and get his case tried in the press, what are the odds he'll get any consideration from them Wednesday?
Because the NY stewards are the almighty be all end all of racing knowledge. Please. Johnny doesn't need permission from a bunch of blind know nothings, who didnt even put up an inquiry sign, to speak his mind. And I don't think he cares what "consideration" they give him Wednesday. Get a clue.

Dahoss 06-14-2011 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784427)
You've repeatedly referred to that quote in odd context. I think you need a dictionary.
I think you need a drug test.

Riot 06-14-2011 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 784483)
Because the NY stewards are the almighty be all end all of racing knowledge. Please. Johnny doesn't need permission from a bunch of blind know nothings, who didnt even put up an inquiry sign, to speak his mind. And I don't think he cares what "consideration" they give him Wednesday. Get a clue.
Wow. Take things too literally, do you? :D

iamthelurker 06-15-2011 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 784566)
Wow. Take things too literally, do you? :D
Wow. No clue what you were talking about, did you? :zz:

my miss storm cat 06-15-2011 12:34 PM
10 days...

http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-stak...areless-riding

Dahoss 06-15-2011 12:39 PM
I guess despite dissing (who still uses that word?) them, the stewards did in fact give Velazquez some consideration. Imagine that....

randallscott35 06-15-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 784685)
Deserved 30

Riot 06-15-2011 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 784693)
Deserved 30
Probably, but at least they did something.

slotdirt 06-15-2011 01:09 PM
Good thing Johnny V talking to the press got him less consideration with the NYRA Stewards.


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