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Indian Charlie 06-22-2011 12:23 PM

wow.

i didn't know anyone at that time that thought of SJ as being some sort of superstar.

slotdirt 06-22-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 786152)
wow.

i didn't know anyone at that time that thought of SJ as being some sort of superstar.

You must not have lived within 500 miles of Philadelphia for five weeks in 2004 then.

That Belmont crowd was pretty insane.

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 12:59 PM

They wanted to tar and feather Jerry Bailey because he opted to try and put a little bit of early pressure on Smarty Jones with Eddington of all horses.

I suppose Bailey must have re-watched the film of Touch Gold's Belmont win where McCarron had challenged Silver Charm early - backed off right away - and came again to wear him down in the stretch. Bailey should have known that what works with a tactically gifted horse like Touch Gold would not work with a grinding plodder like Eddington ... but still, the Smarty Jones fans acted as if Bailey pulled out a crow bar and went Tonya Harding on Smarty Jones.

The real thing that hurt SJ and helped Birdstone in that race - was the insanely pre-mature inside move Rock Hard Ten made. SJ got a very serious mid-race challenge from a fairly good horse. Friggen Bailey getting Eddington to breath on SJ for a few seconds was so overblown.

King Glorious 06-22-2011 01:10 PM

Indian Charlie, are you serious? You didn't know ANYONE that thought of him as a superstar? That Belmont drew over 120k.

freddymo 06-22-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 786160)
Indian Charlie, are you serious? You didn't know ANYONE that thought of him as a superstar? That Belmont drew over 120k.

that 120k fig is dubious at best

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 01:12 PM

Trivia....

who was the morning line favorite in the Kentucky Derby the year Smarty Jones won it?

Dahoss 06-22-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 786162)
that 120k fig is dubious at best

It was PACKED that day Freddy.

NTamm1215 06-22-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 786163)
Trivia....

who was the morning line favorite in the Kentucky Derby the year Smarty Jones won it?

Was it Tapit? Had to have been him or Lion Heart if not Smarty Jones.

slotdirt 06-22-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 786162)
that 120k fig is dubious at best

Seriously? I'd say 120k was pretty accurate.

MaTH716 06-22-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 786163)
Trivia....

who was the morning line favorite in the Kentucky Derby the year Smarty Jones won it?

The Cliff's Edge?

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 786167)
The Cliff's Edge?

Correct.

NTamm1215 06-22-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 786167)
The Cliff's Edge?

Yep, it was The Cliff's Edge. I forgot how much Battaglia loves Kentucky racing.

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 786166)
Seriously? I'd say 120k was pretty accurate.

Busiest day in the history of Erie's OTB as well. They gave out free $2 win bets on Smarty Jones to everyone who walked in and had signs on Peach street saying "bet on Pennsylvania bred Smarty Jones right here" with arrows pointing to the OTB.

It was one of those super sized OTB's with three huge-ass rooms and it was hard to move around that day. Stupidest promotion to ever work. That place was like a morgue for the Charismatic Belmont.

robfla 06-22-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 786163)
Trivia....

who was the morning line favorite in the Kentucky Derby the year Smarty Jones won it?

The Cliff's Edge

smuthg 06-22-2011 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 786163)
Trivia....

who was the morning line favorite in the Kentucky Derby the year Smarty Jones won it?

the Cliff's Edge?

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 786169)
Yep, it was The Cliff's Edge. I forgot how much Battaglia loves Kentucky racing.

I believe he also had Pulpit the ML favorite the year of SC, Free House, and Captain Bodgit.

TouchOfGrey 06-22-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 786166)
Seriously? I'd say 120k was pretty accurate.

120,139 according to the NYRA Media Guide.

Antitrust32 06-22-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 786162)
that 120k fig is dubious at best

lol. you certainly were not there. where'd you pull that comment from?

ateamstupid 06-22-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 786162)
that 120k fig is dubious at best

Spoken like someone who wasn't there.

Indian Charlie 06-22-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 786160)
Indian Charlie, are you serious? You didn't know ANYONE that thought of him as a superstar? That Belmont drew over 120k.

I'm not sure how many of that 120k I personally knew. Probably not many, and of those, I doubt any of them thought of him in the same way they'd think of a Secretariat type.


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