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somerfrost 04-04-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 766093)
Sorry but this topic is horses.hit in the grand scheme of things. If you're really worried about the troops, UN workers, etc. then you're crucifying the wrong guy.

We are currently fighting 3 wars, two of them we're fighting for oil. We're fighting for Exxon, BP, Hugo Chavez, and numerous dictators.

And now we're training and supplying al-qaeda in Libya.

Jed Clampett is the least of our problems.

I agree with that! (not sure who we are supporting in Libya but history is not on our side to be sure). But just cause there are worse folks doesn't give Jed a free pass, he's like Westboro, a flea in the ointment at best....unless you are one of those directly affected by his/their actions.

GenuineRisk 04-04-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 766093)
Sorry but this topic is horses.hit in the grand scheme of things. If you're really worried about the troops, UN workers, etc. then you're crucifying the wrong guy.

We are currently fighting 3 wars, two of them we're fighting for oil. We're fighting for Exxon, BP, Hugo Chavez, and numerous dictators.

And now we're training and supplying al-qaeda in Libya.

Jed Clampett is the least of our problems.

True 'dat. In the end, it's not about God or freedom or human rights or anything like that; it's always about stuff. Didn't Carlin do a routine on that?

Riot 04-04-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 766041)
The point I'm trying to make is that even if the pastor was out of the equation, the troops or anyone that is American for that matter would be in danger anyway. They don't need any reasons to kill Americans.

By you bringing up the pastor is almost like some sort of justifucation for them going around killing people.

:zz: Only if you completely ignore what I said about it. Which was the opposite.

Riot 04-04-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 766074)
Jed is exposing a staggering percentage of Muslims as nothing more than murderous, oppressive thugs.

We've known the Taliban and the Afghani imans to be murderous for many decades. Nothing new here. What "staggering percentage" are you talking about?

dellinger63 04-04-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 765497)
As for the jackass in Florida, he's risking American lives with his quest for another 15 minutes of national fame.

How did I read this wrong? :zz:

Riot 04-04-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 766146)
How did I read this wrong? :zz:

By completely ignoring the entire paragraph previous, about the Taliban, where I said who was at fault and dismissed the jackass in Florida as just an excuse.

Let's post like you: FU. You're the Squeeky Fromme of internet board idiots.

somerfrost 04-04-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 766147)
By completely ignoring the entire paragraph previous, about the Taliban, where I said who was at fault and dismissed the jackass in Florida as just an excuse.

Let's post like you: FU. You're the Squeeky Fromme of internet board idiots.

It's called tunnel vision.....

dellinger63 04-04-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 766147)
By completely ignoring the entire paragraph previous, about the Taliban, where I said who was at fault and dismissed the jackass in Florida as just an excuse.

Let's post like you: FU. You're the Squeeky Fromme of internet board idiots.

If the guy in florida was a muslim burning a bible it would be freedom of speech to you. But a crazy, old, American man burning the kuran is risking American lives? This is why you have so deservingly earned the Squeeky Fromme of muslims, (minus a couple hundred bad ones.)

Riot 04-04-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 766157)
If the guy in florida was a muslim burning a bible it would be freedom of speech to you. But a crazy, old, American man burning the kuran is risking American lives?)

No. That's a completely false statement. You certainly can't recognize your own ignorance.

Riot 04-04-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 766155)
It's called tunnel vision.....

I think it's all Carter's fault :D

MaTH716 04-04-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 765497)
The people of Afghanistan go with us or the Taliban, depending upon who the highest bidder is. It's that simple. We made great strides in the past couple of years by simply paying more for them to fight on our side. The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

As for the jackass in Florida, he's risking American lives with his quest for another 15 minutes of national fame.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 765971)
What I said, was:

The Taliban, in concert with the local religious leaders, is clearly involved in the latest violence. It's all about whipping up the anti-American froth. It's just an excuse.

Yes, I agree the Taliban is just blood thirsty radical animals with no value on life.

But yeah - when the Taliban uses the clown in Florida to incite violence against our troops in Afghanistan, yeah - that puts Americans in danger.

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 766144)
:zz: Only if you completely ignore what I said about it. Which was the opposite.

The first post says it all, then it looks like you do a little tap dance around it in the second (Suprise :rolleyes:).

The bottom line is that they are in danger 24 hours a day 7 days a week, because they are Americans. Reguardless of who is and who isn't burning books.

Riot 04-04-2011 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 766190)
The first post says it all, then it looks like you do a little tap dance around it in the second (Suprise :rolleyes:).

No I didn't. Get a clue.

MaTH716 04-04-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 766192)
No I didn't. Get a clue.

:rolleyes:

Comical.

somerfrost 04-04-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 766195)
:rolleyes:

Comical.

Math....if three people found themselves in a cage with three hungry lions who were thankfully asleep, all they had to do was quietly exit the cage but suddenly Jed started pounding on the cage and yelling waking the lions who attacked and killed the people inside. Sure they were in danger simply by being in the cage and sure, the lions were man-eaters all along and everyone knew that but would you give old Jed a pass for his actions?

MaTH716 04-04-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 766197)
Math....if three people found themselves in a cage with three hungry lions who were thankfully asleep, all they had to do was quietly exit the cage but suddenly Jed started pounding on the cage and yelling waking the lions who attacked and killed the people inside. Sure they were in danger simply by being in the cage and sure, the lions were man-eaters all along and everyone knew that but would you give old Jed a pass for his actions?

It's apples and oranges, but I'll play along.

At anytime the lions could wake up an attack without being provoked.

GenuineRisk 04-04-2011 08:23 PM

The Christian Science Monitor has a pretty good piece on how Jones' actions help the Taliban. Heading to the article:

"Many Afghans do not realize that US pastor Terry Jones, who held a Quran burning last month, heads a small church whose beliefs are not widely shared, thus fueling anti-foreigner sentiment that benefits the Taliban."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Globa...ps-the-Taliban

somerfrost 04-04-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 766200)
It's apples and oranges, but I'll play along.

At anytime the lions could wake up an attack without being provoked.

But they didn't just wake up, they were awakened by the actions of dear old Jed. One can always use the excuse that they may have awakened on their own but that's not what happened...Jed's actions woke them! The fact that they did what wild animals do once they woke up doesn't dissolve Jed of the guilt of waking them up!

MaTH716 04-04-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 766204)
But they didn't just wake up, they were awakened by the actions of dear old Jed. One can always use the excuse that they may have awakened on their own but that's not what happened...Jed's actions woke them! The fact that they did what wild animals do once they woke up doesn't dissolve Jed of the guilt of waking them up!

So are you really saying that because one person out of a population of over three hundred million lit a book on fire, that he is soley responsible for waking the animals?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

somerfrost 04-04-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 766210)
So are you really saying that because one person out of a population of over three hundred million lit a book on fire, that he is soley responsible for waking the animals?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

It's ridiculous to you because your mind is set, nothing I or anyone else will say will change it. Sorry that you feel his right to be a bigoted jerk supercedes any consequence of his actions. And, for the record, yes...he woke the lions.

Riot 04-04-2011 10:17 PM

I'll stick with General Patraeus' assessment (who, btw, also says Jed woke the lions):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...831942006.html

The Afghani's are not Egyptians, nor even Libyans. They are tribal. They don't have internet access or Facebook. What they learn about the outside world is from their religious leaders during Friday afternoons. The dickwad in Florida put his little quest for fame on the internet, where the radical imams and the Taliban grabbed it and used it to stoke hate for America (like they did with the Abu Grab pictures) as represented by the troops on the ground in Afghanistan. Nobody in America even noticed it happened.


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