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freddymo 02-13-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann (Post 752025)
I couldn't agree more with you. This 'resting' horses after even easy races just gives their bones and muscles time to lose the remodeling that the race gave them. And it seems to have been instituted by the 'sheets guys' analyses. Don't run him back too soon or he'll bounce! They have no training in exercise physiology or anything similar, and they haven't trained a racehorse in the flesh, yet everybody listens to them anyway. Madness. I am a mathematician, holding a doctorate in mathematical statistics, and I can tell you that a complex situation like a racehorse's performance in a race can't be described by a single number.

My first 'Derby' season was 1971 and I had latched onto Jim French, the hickory throwback to an earlier era who seemed to run every 10 days or so. He took part in all 4 parts of the Hialeah Derby series (won the Bahamas but had to give it back) with a couple of placings, then ran in the Bay Shore, Florida Derby, and Santa Anita Derby on consecutive weekends, placing in the first two and winning the last. And since it was then 4 weeks to the Derby, he ran in the Wood Memorial (4th). If that critter Canonero II hadn't shipped in from Venezuela, Jim French would have been the Derby winner, because he was a clear second on the day. None of the US-raced 3yos that year were all that much - except Hoist the Flag, who got hurt early - but they ran against one another all spring. Bold Reason, Executioner, Good Behaving, His Majesty - all nice horses who won good races in their lifetimes, but nothing even Riva Ridge-style special. Nobody was worried about their stud value being diminished by a loss because it wasn't until they had run 8-10 times that any of them HAD any value as a stallion.



In 1972/'73 Mr. Phipps offered 8mil for horse who had run 6 or 7 times.. What is 8mil 1972 dollars equivalent to in 2011 bucks?

Pedigree Ann 02-13-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 752038)
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In 1972/'73 Mr. Phipps offered 8mil for horse who had run 6 or 7 times.. What is 8mil 1972 dollars equivalent to in 2011 bucks?

And it was a highly controversial move on his part. Plenty of people thought it was an outrageous amount to pay to syndicate a horse based only on 2yo form, without a classic win or even a race at 3.

freddymo 02-13-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann (Post 752222)
And it was a highly controversial move on his part. Plenty of people thought it was an outrageous amount to pay to syndicate a horse based only on 2yo form, without a classic win or even a race at 3.

So apparently people did care about a horses value well in advance of their 10th start?


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