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Nascar1966 02-10-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 751166)
how is egypts inept leader a tie in for you to attack obama? what's the connection??

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama should not get involved with the mess in Egypt. There are enough problems in this country to keep him occupied.

Nascar1966 02-10-2011 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751223)

Hopefully Riot doesn't see this. Riot will accuse you of being hateful. If I posted that Riot would say I'm a hateful person.

Danzig 02-10-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751225)
The point I'm trying to make is that Obama should not get involved with the mess in Egypt. There are enough problems in this country to keep him occupied.

your post above said no such thing. and of course obama and the state dept will keep an eye on egypt. to do otherwise would be irresponsible. i doubt you'd feel this concern were it a republican in the executive.

Danzig 02-10-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751226)
Hopefully Riot doesn't see this. Riot will accuse you of being hateful. If I posted that Riot would say I'm a hateful person.

well, you are a hateful person

Coach Pants 02-10-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751223)

:D

Nascar1966 02-10-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 751244)
your post above said no such thing. and of course obama and the state dept will keep an eye on egypt. to do otherwise would be irresponsible. i doubt you'd feel this concern were it a republican in the executive.

I would feel the same way whether it is a Democrat or Republican. This country has a habit of sticking its nose in another countries affair when it shouldn't.

jms62 02-11-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 751244)
your post above said no such thing. and of course obama and the state dept will keep an eye on egypt. to do otherwise would be irresponsible. i doubt you'd feel this concern were it a white man in the executive.

FTFY

Nascar1966 02-11-2011 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 751271)
FTFY

The head peanut of the peanut gallery has spoken.

Danzig 02-11-2011 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751267)
I would feel the same way whether it is a Democrat or Republican. This country has a habit of sticking its nose in another countries affair when it shouldn't.

i doubt that. and of course we care about what happens with egypt, considering where it is located. you might want to consider the bigger picture rather than just say we need to mind our business.

jms62 02-11-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 751281)
i doubt that. and of course we care about what happens with egypt, considering where it is located. you might want to consider the bigger picture rather than just say we need to mind our business.

That would involve Cognitive ability far beyond his capabilities. It would be akin to a Pomeranian lining up in the gates and winning the Kentucky Derby..

Nascar1966 02-11-2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 751283)
That would involve Cognitive ability far beyond his capabilities. It would be akin to a Pomeranian lining up in the gates and winning the Kentucky Derby..

Dont you have to get your clothes ready foir your Saturday night meeting?

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 06:28 AM

Not being concerned about what happens in Egypt is a bury one's head in the sand analogy. We should be very concerned.

Egypt has been a deciding factor in keeping peace with Israel. We've been plowing $2 billion a year into Egypt's budget (mostly for military expense) to ensure the peace is kept.

I'm not saying Mubarak is a great guy to his people - obviously not. BUT, we and they have to be concerned about jumping from the frying pan into the fire. We don't know what's on the horizon for a new regime and IF one of the underlying causes for this revolution is the peace with Israel.

All I can imagine is that if a new regime takes a different approach toward Israel and so much as stares at them cross-eyed, the Middle East will erupt like it's never erupted before. And, that is (to my way of thinking) the main reason why we should be concerned about what's going on in Egypt.

Nascar1966 02-11-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 751285)
Not being concerned about what happens in Egypt is a bury one's head in the sand analogy. We should be very concerned.

Egypt has been a deciding factor in keeping peace with Israel. We've been plowing $2 billion a year into Egypt's budget (mostly for military expense) to ensure the peace is kept.

I'm not saying Mubarak is a great guy to his people - obviously not. BUT, we and they have to be concerned about jumping from the frying pan into the fire. We don't know what's on the horizon for a new regime and IF one of the underlying causes for this revolution is the peace with Israel.

All I can imagine is that if a new regime takes a different approach toward Israel and so much as stares at them cross-eyed, the Middle East will erupt like it's never erupted before. And, that is (to my way of thinking) the main reason why we should be concerned about what's going on in Egypt.

I understand you are trying to make a point but dont you feel that this country gets involved in another countries affairs too much?

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751288)
I understand you are trying to make a point but dont you feel that this country gets involved in another countries affairs too much?

Speaking strictly about Egypt, I think the USA handing over $2 billion a year since the Egypt/Israel peace accords allows us to the privilege of being involved. Egypt has a lot to lose should they lose that yearly "stipend" unless, of course, the new US mentality is to have Israel beaten into oblivion.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41521234...ideastn_africa

Danzig 02-11-2011 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 751288)
I understand you are trying to make a point but dont you feel that this country gets involved in another countries affairs too much?

although we open ourselves up to criticism if we do get involved, the rest of the world generally looks towards us in times of crisis. we get asked for help a lot, in a variety of ways.
it's only when we get stupid about what to do that we really screw up. when we ignore the bigger picture, or when we waste universal good will by becoming a tyrant.
this isn't one of those times.

dellinger63 02-11-2011 07:51 AM

The powers that be behind the Muslim Brotherhood CAN NOT be allowed to take over Egypt's military, ranked 10th largest in the world, and especially their air-force, including 200+ F-16's.

Whether we get involved overtly or covertly we will need to get involved. For the time being providing inferior replacement parts would be an idea I'll throw out there.

dellinger63 02-11-2011 08:52 AM

WGN is reporting Mubarek and wife have left the country. Heard somewhere that Baden Baden Germany courtesy of the USA was a possible destination.

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 09:10 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41526422...ica/?GT1=43001

dalakhani 02-11-2011 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 751300)
The powers that be behind the Muslim Brotherhood CAN NOT be allowed to take over Egypt's military, ranked 10th largest in the world, and especially their air-force, including 200+ F-16's.

Whether we get involved overtly or covertly we will need to get involved. For the time being providing inferior replacement parts would be an idea I'll throw out there.

There is little doubt in my mind that the US will ensure that someone who will "play ball" will find his way into office in Egypt. That country is much too vital in regards to regional stability. The US has been pretty good at that over time.

Princess Doreen 02-11-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 751326)
There is little doubt in my mind that the US will ensure that someone who will "play ball" will find his way into office in Egypt. That country is much too vital in regards to regional stability. The US has been pretty good at that over time.

How'd that U.S. ability work out with Iran?


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