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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 710514)

Blame showed, in the JCJC, that he's not as good going 10F as going shorter. Clearly, if Fly Down was able to change leads, he'd have finished ahead of Blame. Blame probably will make the lead at some point; but he'll get run down by a legitimate 10F horse. His advantage going shorter, the ability to run against the grain, is nullified @ 10F. No doubt he'd be the horse to beat if the race were 9F or less.

Hard to believe that some are continuing to advance the argument that the JCGC was a prep. Why would he need that particular race and not the others he's run this year? Including the win off the long layoff.

LAL shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Hard to believe we're still having a discussion about QR getting 10F.

In what sense?

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 710514)

Blame showed, in the JCJC, that he's not as good going 10F as going shorter. Clearly, if Fly Down was able to change leads, he'd have finished ahead of Blame. Blame probably will make the lead at some point; but he'll get run down by a legitimate 10F horse. His advantage going shorter, the ability to run against the grain, is nullified @ 10F. No doubt he'd be the horse to beat if the race were 9F or less.

Hard to believe that some are continuing to advance the argument that the JCGC was a prep. Why would he need that particular race and not the others he's run this year? Including the win off the long layoff.

LAL shouldn't even be in the conversation.

Hard to believe we're still having a discussion about QR getting 10F.

There is a big difference between prepping and needing a race. This is basic stuff. You don't want to peak October 2nd. You want to peak Novemeber 6th. Again, basic concepts.

I don't like making definitive statements off of one race. Especially because we aren't talking about machines that run the exact same everytime they hit the track.

I've watched horse leave California this year and win alot of big races and that's why I will play one exacta ticket in the classic.

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 710404)

Blame also beat Haynesfield. Who is light years ahead of anyone Zenyatta's beaten this year. Just deal with it. In her whole career, she has one serious win, and it came on a surface that basically no one other than her was guaranteed to handle.

What exactly do I have to deal with? Im not one of the crazy Z lovers and Rachel haters, I just always stood by Z being a bit better. So what am I getting over?

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 710523)

In what sense?

Clearly he is saying Lucky can get the distance and is especially dangerous because his trainer is the GOAT and his wife is Jill.