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blackthroatedwind 10-04-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 703135)
Yeah, just a couple minor differences between Zenyatta and the horses you mentioned:

Cigar's BCC at 6 was his 8th race of the year, all against major league competition...and it was the 33rd race of his career. I'm not sure if the horses he faced in his last BCC would compete with this year's version though.

Pleasantly Perfect's campaign at age 6 began in February, included a Dubai trip(beating Medaglia d'Oro), and also the Pacific Classic. He also faced Roses in May(the following Dubai Classic winner) and Ghostzapper in the Classic.

Cigar had a very tough four wide trip on a gold rail in the Woodbine BC against a field that would crush this year's BC Classic crew. Louis Quatorze would be odds on in this Classic.

miraja2 10-04-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 702902)
She shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Citation, etc.,

I can't believe TVG et al have her listed on their visuals

Ridiculous.

It is really too bad that there was nobody around a couple of years ago that was warning such things would happen. If so, perhaps people would have known better than to actually cheer for her to break the record in the first place.

oh wait.....

The Indomitable DrugS 10-04-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 703140)
Cigar had a very tough four wide trip on a gold rail in the Woodbine BC against a field that would crush this year's BC Classic crew. Louis Quatorze would be odds on in this Classic.

Alphabet Soup was also wide in that race.

He only ran one time after winning the BC Classic ... a great 2nd to Gentlemen ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwrjjH6G7Ps


I remember sports channel showing a handicapping segment about the BC Woodbine's year claiming the rail was gold.

cakes44 10-04-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 703140)
Cigar had a very tough four wide trip on a gold rail in the Woodbine BC against a field that would crush this year's BC Classic crew.

Yes...I figured I laid the sarcasm so thick onto that one that I wouldn't have to use an emoticon. I'm not sure if anyone from this year's race would be able to split that field Cigar faced.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 703146)
Yes...I figured I laid the sarcasm so thick onto that one that I wouldn't have to use an emoticon. I'm not sure if anyone from this year's race would be able to split that field Cigar faced.

Sorry....I should have realized that.

NoLuvForPletch 10-04-2010 02:02 PM

I thought Jaycito's performance was remarkable in light of the Mike Smith "Special" ride he got.

2Hot4TV 10-04-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Theatrical (Post 703131)
The filly was tired. She didn't switch because she was "green" all of a sudden. Many horses swap their leads when they get tired. There's a couple of pictures up of both horses at the wire. Z's ears are straight up and Switch's are back. Switch ran a terrific race, but the pictures show who was well within themelves.

I am amazed at what some people don't see. They can't be watching a horse race.

Dahoss 10-04-2010 06:22 PM

What a surprise....Zenyatta fans pretending they "get it" or are seeing something others can't.

There's an original concept.

v j stauffer 10-04-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 703303)
I am amazed at what some people don't see. They can't be watching a horse race.

I saw that too. Horses defineatly swap their leads when tired. Especially a classy animal who was probably trying to do too much to hold that amazon off. Would be interesting to go back and see what became of all the fillies that finished 2nd to Queenie.

Dahoss 10-04-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 703308)
Would be interesting to go back and see what became of all the fillies that finished 2nd to Queenie.

Didn't you already incorrectly do that on another board?

2Hot4TV 10-04-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 703307)
What a surprise....Zenyatta fans pretending they "get it" or are seeing something others can't.

There's an original concept.

Has nothing to do with being a fan of Zenyatta, it's more a part of the game. Like some sit and wait for someone to tell them who to watch and when to bet, I prefer to find them on my own.

Dahoss 10-04-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 703319)
Has nothing to do with being a fan of Zenyatta, it's more a part of the game. Like some sit and wait for someone to tell them who to watch and when to bet, I prefer to find them on my own.

As do I. It just seems to me the Zenyatta fans are always acting like they see things the rest of the people don't. Then again, most of her fans don't bet, so that might factor into it.

Indian Charlie 10-04-2010 06:53 PM

So, she got tired and had a sudden heart attack, is that what you are saying.

She ran her last 1/16th in under 6.1.

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. She tired real bad there. I guess the extra three lengths she pulled away from the third place horse there in the last 1/16th means what? Let me guess, the horse in third was being eased?

Jesus freakin Crist. Just when you think the Zenyattards cannot possibly get a lower IQSF (Intelligence Quotient Speed Figure), they go out there and obliterate their previous lows.

And a freeze frame photograph showed their ears in different positions?

I suppose it's not possible their ears were being flicked about, and that their ears were not pinned in those respective positions. Perhaps, just perhaps, the photo(s) caught their ears that way.

Jesus freakin Crist. Just when you think the Zenyattards cannot possibly get a lower IQSF (Intelligence Quotient Speed Figure), they go out there and obliterate their previous lows. Again.

prudery 10-04-2010 07:15 PM

IC---

Are you obsessed with medical mischegoss ??? No one mentioned a heart attack but you your failed efforts to dramatize ...

I believe the discussion was that tiring horses may swap leads--and they do, and she did .

While you are diddling yourself about the Ztards talking about ears--laid back ears indicate effort or anger--upright ears indicate lack of effort and pleasant attitude .

Any retarded pony clubber knows this .

Do you even read your own foolishness ???

Everything the prior posters said is true, and trying to make it into fantasy just indicates how little you know about horses--regardless which horse you like or put money on .

Rudeboyelvis 10-04-2010 07:18 PM

uh oh

Indian Charlie 10-04-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 703332)
IC---

Are you obsessed with medical mischegoss ??? No one mentioned a heart attack but you your failed efforts to dramatize ...

I believe the discussion was that tiring horses may swap leads--and they do, and she did .

While you are diddling yourself about the Ztards talking about ears--laid back ears indicate effort or anger--upright ears indicate lack of effort and pleasant attitude .

Any retarded pony clubber knows this .

Do you even read your own foolishness ???

Everything the prior posters said is true, and trying to make it into fantasy just indicates how little you know about horses--regardless which horse you like or put money on .

Obviously, even to a scholar like you, I was being facetious about the heart attack quip. Nice try though.

It's 'mishegoss' you numbnut. Try to stick to English.

She ran her last 1/16th in under 6.1 while putting 3 more lengths between her and the third place horse. Is this really the last 1/16th of a horse tired enough to lose her action by switching leads? NO, it is not. If you weren't so blind to reality, you'd admit that.

Her ears may or may not have been pinned back. One snapshot of a horse moving at about 35-40 MPH proves nothing. Unless you are desperate for any flimsy evidence to support your empty belief. Who knows, maybe she was hurt??

Or just happened to have her ears back at that exact moment. Of course, you need nothing more than that one split instant in time to know these things. Being the retarded pony clubber that you are.

Indian Charlie 10-04-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 703332)
IC---

upright ears indicate lack of effort and pleasant attitude .

I missed this gem until I reread your inane ramblings to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I didn't realize Zenyatta was not even trying and was just out for a Saturday stroll in the Park.

This last post of yours zooooooms you way past CSC1985 and Smooth Operatard as the biggest imbecile in recent DT history.

In fact, five years from now, we (the rest of DT) will look back at you three with fondness. Much like how racing fans who've been around awhile look back to the 70's with a Zen like fondness for the horses from that era.

You will be Secretariat to CSC and SO's Affirmed and Alydar. We will all be looking back and saying that the tards of today (in five years) just do not stack up with the tards of yesteryear.

The biggest moron in five years will be like a Mine That Bird compared to you being Secretariat.

She's bewildering like a tremendous machine!

prudery 10-04-2010 08:39 PM

More twaddle from someone who hasn't the stones to even concede a slight wrong--it is clear which end this windy tome came out of .

Still clear that you don't know what YOU are looking at, and while I don't know what it means historically to be in the class of those you mentioned, I'd rather not be in yours , thank you .

Dahoss 10-04-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 703355)
More twaddle from someone who hasn't the stones to even concede a slight wrong--it is clear which end this windy tome came out of .

Still clear that you don't know what YOU are looking at, and while I don't know what it means historically to be in the class of those you mentioned, I'd rather not be in yours , thank you .

Like I said..the enlighted Zenyatta non bettors..I mean fans "get it", while no one else does.

Off topic, but what's with you and talking about tits, knockers, stones, etc? Frustrated much?

Indian Charlie 10-04-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 703355)
More twaddle from someone who hasn't the stones to even concede a slight wrong--it is clear which end this windy tome came out of .

Still clear that you don't know what YOU are looking at, and while I don't know what it means historically to be in the class of those you mentioned, I'd rather not be in yours , thank you .

You really don't know what it means to be in the class of Secretariat, Affirmed and Alydar?

It means that your greatness as a complete self righteous imbecile is comparable to their all time greatness as racehorses.

It means that you are the future poster child for the dimwit hall of fame.


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