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Crown@club 10-05-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 703722)
Uh huh...kind of like on this TD pass.




So ... you're saying the Pats had one on one coverage to Moss all game ... if Davis simply slipped - it was a walk to the endzone because the safeties were up hounding a 20-year-old rookie who caught all 5 targets - and Welker?

Wow, The Pats can still complete 83% of there pass plays all while ignoring Moss 1-on-1 the whole entire game. They are even better than I thought.

Vonte Davis merely slips 3 times - and Moss winds up trotting into the endzone with three 80 yard TD's because the Dolphins are fixated with using the deep saftey to contain a 20-year-old tight end taken in like the 3rd round of the draft.

Hey your right on the play. Moss attacked the safety. In fact if the play where the Woodhead was not available underneath, and Brady had a little more time, I'm sure Brady would had connected to Moss in the middle for the score instead.

I watched that 1st half, and it was Vontae one-on-one, but there wasn't even a try to get a pass to Moss except on the fake. Moss has been doubled-team his entire career, and you scream when Brady tries to thread it to him. Yet one-on-one and no pass.

You are on to something with the Pats actually having a great offense. Brady is completing 69% of his passes and Moss only has 9 catches and 22 targets. But the offense is flowing through some other players these days, namely TE Aaron Hernandez, who is becoming a factor in the middle of the field and also in the red zone (not to mention Rob Gronkowski). The safeties were watching. Let's face it, his coach is known for avoiding tough matchups when they are presented to him, so he might have simply gone into the game thinking he was going to avoid top corner Vontae Davis.

Or since Moss is looking for the big pay day and came out complaining, maybe coach is issuing a statement that I may not need you, so good luck finding your money.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-05-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 703750)
Hernandez is a stud, no doubt. You are going to score with the best of them. Defense still doesn't do it for me in January.

Hernandez is working against nickle guys and sometimes linebackers. That's why he's caught 18 out of 20 targets this year.. and on a few occasions has been wide open but the ball hasn't come his way.

The deep ball to Moss was doubled almost all night long - and - in the redzone - Moss saw traditonal double coverage.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-05-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 703758)
Or since Moss is looking for the big pay day and came out complaining, maybe coach is issuing a statement that I may not need you, so good luck finding your money.

You know what happens when you throw the deep ball?


* you put stress on the offensive line - and get more drive killing holding calls

* you get your QB banged up because the plays aren't always quick to develop and you have to step into your throws. Brady got KO'd for the season in '08 in game #1 on a deep ball to Moss. He ended up playing with several broken ribs last year. A lot of teams in Minny came out of the gate 5-0 and ended up with beat up qbs later in the year... which isn't good when your own D is swiss cheese.

* If you do strike and score a quick touchdown - and it only means that pile of sh!t New England defense on the sideline you have has to come out.


When you can complete 80+% of your passes to always wide open in space underneath reciever... have long clock grinding drives .. with a defense like the one the Pats have, that's better than trying to force quick scores.

If Moss leaves New England - this entire offense collapses. There is no one that can even remotely stretch a defense .. and guys like Wes Welker and the tight ends will struggle wildly because the space to work with won't be there. Danny Woodhead becomes worthless. This is a 6-10 team without Moss .. and a medicore offense that will utterly suck in the red area.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 04:36 PM

What a big win for us last night.
Go Pats.

Crown@club 10-05-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 703766)
You know what happens when you throw the deep ball?


* you put stress on the offensive line - and get more drive killing holding calls

* you get your QB banged up because the plays aren't always quick to develop and you have to step into your throws. Brady got KO'd for the season in '08 in game #1 on a deep ball to Moss. He ended up playing with several broken ribs last year. A lot of teams in Minny came out of the gate 5-0 and ended up with beat up qbs later in the year... which isn't good when your own D is swiss cheese.

* If you do strike and score a quick touchdown - and it only means that pile of sh!t New England defense on the sideline you have has to come out.


When you can complete 80+% of your passes to always wide open in space underneath reciever... have long clock grinding drives .. with a defense like the one the Pats have, that's better than trying to force quick scores.
.

NO F.UCKING ****!


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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 703766)
If Moss leaves New England - this entire offense collapses. There is no one that can even remotely stretch a defense .. and guys like Wes Welker and the tight ends will struggle wildly because the space to work with won't be there. Danny Woodhead becomes worthless. This is a 6-10 team without Moss .. and a medicore offense that will utterly suck in the red area.

We'll see.

ateamstupid 10-05-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703767)
What a big win for us last night.
Go Pats.

LOL, man have you been quiet since losing your ass last week and looking as dumb as ever with your Jets bashing.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 703779)
LOL, man have you been quiet since losing your ass last week and looking as dumb as ever with your Jets bashing.

Um not really. I have been darted.
Did you really think I could be this quiet?

ateamstupid 10-05-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703793)
Um not really. I have been darted.
Did you really think I could be this quiet?

So, in other words, you still haven't learned any lessons. I'm sure Steve is thrilled.

randallscott35 10-05-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703793)
Um not really. I have been darted.
Did you really think I could be this quiet?

Why not a new screen name? We need a new one.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 703796)
So, in other words, you still haven't learned any lessons. I'm sure Steve is thrilled.

[B[/b]

Because I said big win for the Pats? But no, your not gunning for me. Did I say a word about the Jets? Did I comment on anything you have said?

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 703797)
Why not a new screen name? We need a new one.

You seem to be doing pretty good yourself... Keep it up.

randallscott35 10-05-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703799)
You seem to be doing pretty good yourself... Keep it up.

You mean adding something to the site rather than being a showgirl? Yes I agree.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 703801)
You mean adding something to the site rather than being a showgirl? Yes I agree.


Your points against Steve in the NJ-Casino thread are comical. Keep it up Randy, Im still waiting on the next rat thread?

ateamstupid 10-05-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703798)
[B[/b]

Because I said big win for the Pats? But no, your not gunning for me. Did I say a word about the Jets? Did I comment on anything you have said?

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703793)
Um not really. I have been darted.
Did you really think I could be this quiet?

Do you even listen to yourself?

And yeah, now you're real quiet about the Jets. Big surprise.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 703809)
Do you even listen to yourself?

And yeah, now you're real quiet about the Jets. Big surprise.


The Jets are tied for first, not sure what else you want me to say. The 2 teams I said were the best in the NFL BEFORE THE SEASSON, have both been strong. Baltimore and New England.

randallscott35 10-05-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703803)
Your points against Steve in the NJ-Casino thread are comical. Keep it up Randy, Im still waiting on the next rat thread?

I'm not for or against anyone here. That is funny.

ateamstupid 10-05-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703811)
The Jets are tied for first, not sure what else you want me to say. The 2 teams I said were the best in the NFL BEFORE THE SEASSON, have both been strong. Baltimore and New England.

No, the Jets are in first place. And you had everything in the galaxy to say before they stuck it to the Pats, now you're speechless. Tail between the legs, as always.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 703822)
No, the Jets are in first place. And you had everything in the galaxy to say before they stuck it to the Pats, now you're speechless. Tail between the legs, as always.

Ok well I am far from this....

speech·less (spchls)
adj.
1. Lacking the faculty of speech.
2. Temporarily unable to speak, as through astonishment.
3. Refraining from speech; silent.
4. Unexpressed or inexpressible in words: speechless admiration.

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speechless·ly adv.
speechless·ness n.


BOTTOM LINE IS, BEFORE THE SEASSON STARTED I SAID MULTIPLE TIMES the best 2 teams in the NFL are Baltimore and New England and besides one bad half of football nothing at all has happened to change my mind. You could just drop this, but you never will... The Jets are tied for first and own the tie breaker, as of now. We will see what happens when they come to NE.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-05-2010 09:12 PM

stop it.

slotdirt 10-05-2010 09:14 PM

Not for nothing, but I don't get how folks think the Ravens are the next coming when they needed like 59:30 to beat a Steelers team by three with freaking Charlie Batch at quarterback. Just saying.

I'm not sure who the best team going is this year because everybody looks to have some serious deficiencies, but if it isn't the Steelers once Roethlisberger comes back next game, I don't know who it is.


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