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Port Conway Lane 06-12-2010 04:40 PM
She again ran 2/5 faster than the boys,and these boys were better than the other ones. I may have to reconsider which of Rachel's races was more impressive:confused:

kgar311 06-12-2010 04:41 PM
Anyone care to knock Rachel now, she would of won that race by open lengths

Travis Stone 06-12-2010 04:41 PM
To run down Battle Plan off those fractions is pretty strong... and he'll get 10f no problem. Very impressive race by Blame.

Port Conway Lane 06-12-2010 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657061)
Rachel's figure will likely come back pretty big, running 1 1/8 in 1:48.78 compared to the Foster's 1:49.37. Obviously the differing paces had something to do with it, but still interesting. Blame is a serious horse, he might be the one to upset the apple cart in the BCC.
Agree, he had every reason to get beat chasing that pace.

ateamstupid 06-12-2010 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 657064)
To run down Battle Plan off those fractions is pretty strong... and he'll get 10f no problem. Very impressive race by Blame.
Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.

ateamstupid 06-12-2010 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 657066)
Agree, he had every reason to get beat chasing that pace.
Not to mention he was 3-4 wide around both turns.

Cannon Shell 06-12-2010 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657068)
Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.
Sheikhed

Travis Stone 06-12-2010 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657068)
Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.
I believe he's coming back in the Suburban.

Regal Ransom stole the Super Derby, Blame ran huge to nearly catch him, and he's progressed since. I think he's legit... Battle Plan is no slouch, especially with an easy lead.

Suddenly, the handicap division has a pulse again, though weak, it's a pulse none-the-less. Hopefully Zenyatta will decide to join it at some point.

Port Conway Lane 06-12-2010 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 657072)
I believe he's coming back in the Suburban.

Regal Ransom stole the Super Derby, Blame ran huge to nearly catch him, and he's progressed since. I think he's legit... Battle Plan is no slouch, especially with an easy lead.

Suddenly, the handicap division has a pulse again, though weak, it's a pulse none-the-less. Hopefully Zenyatta will decide to join it at some point.
November 6th

Thunder Gulch 06-12-2010 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657036)
You didn't answer the question. What more could she have done today? If the answer is nothing, then you should probably admit that you were going to be a hating jerkoff after the race no matter what.
What she could have done is quit running scared and actually risk losing by trying the Foster where the competition measured up. Just because the "other" camp is afraid of a challenge doesn't mean these guys need to suddenly get shy. Impressive but she beat nothing. I hope they step out next time- win or lose.

Travis Stone 06-12-2010 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 657075)
November 6th
Definitely. I hope for her sake, Horse of the Year isn't decided before then.

Rileyoriley 06-12-2010 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 657077)
What she could have done is quit running scared and actually risk losing by trying the Foster where the competition measured up. Just because the "other" camp is afraid of a challenge doesn't mean these guys need to suddenly get shy. Impressive but she beat nothing. I hope they step out next time- win or lose.
She needed a confidence builder. It was the right thing to do for the horse.

10 pnt move up 06-12-2010 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 657080)
Definitely. I hope for her sake, Horse of the Year isn't decided before then.
why, is horse of the year all that matters?

kgar311 06-12-2010 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 657083)
She needed a confidence builder. It was the right thing to do for the horse.
The gloves are off after that race

Rileyoriley 06-12-2010 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657049)
Stop bringing the "great fillies of all-time" red herring up. All I said is that Rachel ran very well today, and Zenyatta fans can't even handle that.

Rachel lost two in a row and needed a race like this before she could step back into the deep end. Zenyatta has won 17 in a row and they still won't even go after Rail Trip. ZOMG, 129 pounds and two more mediocre California horses on a synthetic track, oh brave new world.
Zenyatta has won 16 in a row. I hope you're psychic and already telling us the result of the Vanity.:)

Rileyoriley 06-12-2010 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kgar311 (Post 657085)
The gloves are off after that race
I was only talking about this race. She needed the win for the fans but more importantly for herself.:)

ateamstupid 06-12-2010 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 657077)
What she could have done is quit running scared and actually risk losing by trying the Foster where the competition measured up. Just because the "other" camp is afraid of a challenge doesn't mean these guys need to suddenly get shy. Impressive but she beat nothing. I hope they step out next time- win or lose.
Running scared? She lost twice this year to mediocre fillies. They should've gone in the Foster off of those two races? Slightly different circumstances than a horse on a 16-race winning streak.

kgar311 06-12-2010 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 657087)
I was only talking about this race. She needed the win for the fans but more importantly for herself.:)
and I agree, now after that performance the gloves are off. Rachels back!

Port Conway Lane 06-12-2010 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley (Post 657083)
She needed a confidence builder. It was the right thing to do for the horse.
This is a very key point and as much as I would like to see her beat up on the boys again would it be wise to start laying out a competitive schedule against them ?

If their ultimate goal is to win the BCC I would think they would want something left in the tank.

RockHardTen1985 06-12-2010 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 657061)
Rachel's figure will likely come back pretty big, running 1 1/8 in 1:48.78 compared to the Foster's 1:49.37. Obviously the differing paces had something to do with it, but still interesting. Blame is a serious horse, he might be the one to upset the apple cart in the BCC.
Throw a number out.


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