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Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 653102)

Maybe I should clarify my thoughts. I doubt they paid much, if anything, to re-obtain him.

Coolmore may still retain a piece of the horse.

Hartley/De Renzo has bought back into the horse and will partner with John Magnier.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...e%20Renzo.aspx

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 653102)

Maybe I should clarify my thoughts. I doubt they paid much, if anything, to re-obtain him.

If they only paid $20 to re-obtain him, and stand him as a stallion with the intention of selling breeding dates, he is a stallion prospect. End of story.

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 653107)

If they only paid $20 to re-obtain him, and stand him as a stallion with the intention of selling breeding dates, he is a stallion prospect. End of story.

I think it was $9.99

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653105)

Coolmore may still retain a piece of the horse.

I'd imagine they would, should a miracle happen.

He covered 40 mares in 2009, so it's not like many outside breeders are rushing to him, if H/D are breeding 25 of their own to him.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653108)

I think it was $9.99

****... shoulda bought some shamwows instead

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 652996)

I would make a friendly or unfriendly wager. He got zero support this year. The day horses that win two legs of a Triple Crown and never race again make the Hall of Fame is the day all sanity leaves this sport.

Yeah, but he brought all this excitement and thousands of new fans to the sport or something. Look at 'em...they are everywhere.

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 653016)

I always liked Street Cry going back to his 2YO season, but how is this relevant to anything? Some of today's top sires were not champions on the track (i.e., Distorted Humor, Smart Strike, Indian Charlie), but outperformed more celebrated race horses in the breeding shed.

Man.

IC was among the best race horses of the last 20 years.

His success in the shed only goes to show just how gifted a runner he was.

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 653178)

Man.

IC was among the best race horses of the last 20 years.

His success in the shed only goes to show just how gifted a runner he was.

He went off favored in the Derby... says a lot right there. Horse was really good. Too bad his career was so short. Interestingly, he's really the only sire success story of that class that I can think of...

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 653046)

I just threw up in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 653093)

I'm sure Spectacular Bid would beg to differ. Man o War just rolled over in his grave as well.

Well, you can tell Gary that the next time you see him. :D

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 653182)

Not at all!!

Old Trieste was doing very well before dying at a young age.

Real Quiet, while not a resounding success, has sired a few good horses while getting a crappy book of mares.

Grand Slam has done pretty decently.

All four of those have sired BC winners, btw.

I think that crop has been much better at stud than the previous year. The only sire from that crop that's done anything is Awesome Again.

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 653233)

I think that crop has been much better at stud than the previous year. The only sire from that crop that's done anything is Awesome Again.

And Pulpit.

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 653404)

And Pulpit.

Forgot him, yeah!

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 652400)

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=5231069 Speaking of the Hall of Fame, here's an article talking about Billy Turner's absence. Here's an interview with Billy: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/spor...5/post_24.html

I've heard his drinking discussed in the past with regards to Seattle Slew and the relationship with Slew's owners. I thought some of you might have a more informed opinion about how it affected him as far his HOF status is concerned, if it did at all. Or was it more that losing Slew affected things? They seem to be intertwined a bit. I just know given what it takes for a horse who's good enough to with the Triple Crown to actually do it, it's no small thing to be their trainer, and surely it's grounds to get him on the ballot at the very least.

The Baseball Hall of Fame and Pro Football Hall of Fame have lots of guys as members who were not "perfect citizens" for all the years of their lives.

But they played baseball, or football, well.

One of only two Triple Crown winning trainers in the past 1/3+ of century gets him in on my vote.

I LOVE Seattle Slew.

I attended his Preakness, and his Belmont. I was maybe a bit underwhelmed of Seattle Slew's accomplishment in the day because I had an immediate and real time comparison to Secretariat....and then Affirmed.

But, after 34 seasons of racing and Triple Crown misses, I know Billy Turner had to have had a part in what made Seattle Slew special and successful.

Millerick, Pierce named to Hall of Fame
By Matt Hegarty

Trainer Michael "Buster" Millerick, jockey Don Pierce, and Harry Bassett, a horse who was a champion in 1870 and 1871, have been elected to the National Museum of Racing's Hall of Fame through the organization's historic review process, the Hall of Fame announced on Wednesday.

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 655825)

Is there any jockey that has ever won a couple thusand races not been elected?