This assessment of the AD is wrong. Welcome to the pools. :rolleyes:

Ditto. However I don't think it makes the race wide open, it just drops the odds on L@L and Sid'sCandy.

Hey if they wanna run her,run her and u wanna bet her,bet her

I dont mind all the women who make the $2 bets and u putting your money on her,it just brings her odds down and other ones up.

I am just saying that what I keep hearing. We think she will like the longer distance,the distance is perfect we just gotta see how she works out

She's just as fast as most of the field.

Running against males isn't going to make Devil May Care run any slower. The only thing that might stop her is traffic problems, but every horse in the field will have to deal with that.

she's been as impressive as just about any colt who is headed to churchill saturday. yes, she had two bad efforts after the frizette, both easily tossed. she apparently hated the synthetic in the juvie, and of course had a bad time at the gate at the fairgrounds. you say she 'only won the bonnie miss', but she beat two nice horses in there, amen hallelujah is nothing to sneer at. she's got the breeding, she's got the speed-i can think of many horses in the upcoming race who i think have a better shot than her at being closer to last than to first. any three year old who has an impressive race in the spring is automatically a oaks/derby thought. if i were them, with eskendereya out, i'd choose saturday over friday.

I don't understand why people can't grasp this.

Putting the Derby aside, I don't think she can beat Blind Luck in the Oaks.

Paul

With ESKENDEREYA out of the Derby lineup, Churchill ML oddsmaker Mike Battaglia says LOOKIN AT LUCKY will be made the 'solid favorite' Wednesday at an estimated 3-1. Battaglia believes he will have SIDNEY'S CANDY as about a 6-1 second choice, and AWESOME ACT the 8-1 third choice.

Battaglia added he believes that should DEVIL MAY CARE run in the Derby, she would go off as no worse than 6th choice, and likely as the shortest price of the Pletcher runners...

HRTV just reported that Rule is on the fence as well...

NT

Interesting but you will not get 6-1 on Sidney's Candy on Sat.

More out than in actually..

i guess im in the minority, but i dont see how she has been as impressive as just about any colt. shes won once going two turns, against amen hallelujah, who looked like she has some distance concerns after the bonnie miss. amen hallelujah is a nice filly, but a mile seems like her ceiling.

shes a very nice filly and i dont think shes going to be last at all. she will probably be among the top ten finishers. but her performances on track thus far have not been that impressive to consider her a legit threat.

i think you could say that about any probable starter at this point.

thats not true. just because the favorite is out doesnt mean anyone can win now.

i like devil may care a lot. and she can beat males. but shes run twice this year and did no running at all the first time. so she will be coming into the derby running one real race this year, against a horse with distance challenges, with 6 weeks in between starts.

not the kind of bet i want to make at what will sure be underlaid odds compared to her actual chance of winning.

I definitely toss the BC out because of the Poly; I have no idea what happened at the FG. I didn't realize she had gate issues - that just seemed like a bad race for her. Look, if they run her, I'm going to root for her ( or Ice Box); I hope I'm proven wrong. At least she's coming into her next race in good form because her last workout seems like it was perfect.

I don't think those horses belong, but I'm not going to rail against them being there because I'm not a fan of those horses. They have the earnings, they have the right to be there even if I think they're overmatched. I like Devil May Care - that's why I would prefer to see her run where she has a chance to win. Obviously we disagree; we only have to wait a week to see who's right.

Don't forget that she ran as fast as Icebox did in the Fla. Derby.

It's easier to be right when you pick one horse out of 20 to not win. I say Conveyance won't win and doesn't belong.

all in on the 8 hole.........:$:

i don't feel comfortable at this point saying any horse has a better chance than any other. and i do feel at this point that just about any horse can win. and when i say i don't include stately victor as one of those, i think back to last year. as for lack of racing, ice box is one i like-and he hasn't run in the same span as devil may care.